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Offlineoblivia
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Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information
    #5330895 - 02/23/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have just bought 0.5 grams of Salvia 5x extract that I plan on doing tonight with my friend. I have a simple pipe, which the salesman recommended me to use. But I am wondering about what dose I should take. Just splitting up .25 grams up in 3 piles and smoke those one by one was my idea. How long should I wait between smoking the piles if I don't have an immediate effect?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: oblivia]
    #5330983 - 02/23/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what i do, is take a hit, hold it as long as possible, using a TORCH lighter. Torch lighters are recommended.


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: ChickenNugget]
    #5330987 - 02/23/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

5x is good, rip as big of hits as you can too, and a few in a row, then you'll be feeling good. Kasey (my bestest friend) just tried it her first time last night, she was on her knees giggling for like 5 minutes. She explained the body high as feeling like she was 'falling backwards'.


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: Maverick]
    #5331005 - 02/23/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

just make sure you keep the hit lit the entire time. it's not active unless it reaches a high enough temp.

hold in as long as possible...


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: oblivia]
    #5331053 - 02/23/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

0.5gr of 5x is just a pinch, let's see to it that you won't let it go to waste.

My team would take 0.05-0.1gr of Salvia 5x meaning there would be 5-10 doses in your portion if it landed in our lap.
Start small! Salvia can be excruciatingly intense and a million miles from fun if you take too much.

The way to do it is to take a couple of deep breaths. (like going for a dive, which basically is what you will be doing)
Then put the pipe to your lips and empty it out in one suck.
Use a NORMAL bic lighter, and while you make that suck keep dragging the flame through the smouldering herb. This will evaporate more salvinorin, and whats better: make the smoke less harsh.

Expect a taste like smoking a bit of tea or dried spinach.

When you sucked it all in, put the pipe aside, sit back or lie down and close your eyes. Closed eyes are VITAL. If you take so much Salvia that it is impressive with open eyes, then you are talking about amounts that can scare the liquid shit out of you. We don't want that.

Hold your smoke long, 20 seconds is more than enough.

DO NOTHING except paying attention!! Do not decide that it doesnt work or that something wrong has happened: Salvia takes even psychedelic veterans by surprise, and it's classic to think "it doesnt work" and go about your business without closing your eyes, where the magic is.

There is nothing quite as annoying as having your unfolding subtle Salvia experience ruined by a friend who decided that it doesnt work and starts a complaining narrative within ten seconds :mad:

You must go out to have a subtle grace befall you, and perhaps it will  turn out to not be subtle at all. It will probably be radically different from what you expect.

Dreamlike imagery, beweirding and a peculiar sedation will present itself before the minute is out, on a low dose.

*** YES: YOU NEED LESS AIR NOW, SO PAY NO ATTENTION TO IT ***

Promise yourself that you'll recline or lie down undisturbed for at least three minutes with your eyes closed, regardless if "nothing is happening". Don't assess the experience until at least three minutes in. Just lie there inert, pasying attention. You have to learn how to feel this, there probably will be more than you know.

Bon voyage!


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: Asante]
    #5331137 - 02/23/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wiccan_Seeker just about covered it. I'm not sure what you mean by "you need less air now," but I think I might know. I sometimes forget to breathe. But alas, you can't really suffocate yourself so don't worry about it.

I've smoked a good bit of salvia at this point and the only thing that's worked is a small bowl and a normal lighter, with the flame held to the salvia for the entire duration of the inhalation. It should be burnt until it's nearly white. Put the pipe aside, lay down, hold the breath for as absolutely long as possible. Also, tell your friend/sitter NOT to smoke it until you come out of your haze. The whole point is for him to keep an eye on you and keep you from thrashing around.

While it has been suggested to close your eyes by many people, I just have so much trouble with that. I always end up opening them and believe me, it's another reality altogether. But don't fight it. Do what you're going to do, when you want to do it, otherwise your mind will latch onto the desire and become obssessed with it. The only time I break that rule is when I want to talk. No talking. Don't even try it, you will just become frustrated.


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: supersapien]
    #5331152 - 02/23/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

When you smoke Salvia your metabolism drops rapidly. This will often cause you to hardly breathe at all. It's harmless and you literally need less oxygen (you're on a slow burn) so don't worry about it.

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But alas, you can't really suffocate yourself so don't worry about it.




Alas?! :blush:


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: Asante]
    #5331182 - 02/23/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

alack and alas, it has come to pass that i am the keeper of the good queens...


donkey?


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5331206 - 02/23/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thank you all guys!


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: oblivia]
    #5331679 - 02/23/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i just emptied the whole thing with my friend with 4 hits each in about 20 minutes. i had some visuals, first with eyes closed then open. nothing happened to my friend at all. any tips on how to improve the experience?


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Re: Got my Salvia 5x - just need some practical information [Re: Maverick]
    #5331807 - 02/23/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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DRTMaverick said:
5x is good, rip as big of hits as you can too, and a few in a row, then you'll be feeling good. Kasey (my bestest friend) just tried it her first time last night, she was on her knees giggling for like 5 minutes. She explained the body high as feeling like she was 'falling backwards'.



i find these posts kind of disconcerting.

giggling on your knees? Smoke it. Close your eyes. Leave your body.

People need to use salvia with much respect, its an absolutely odd and fierce and alien substance and it's not for feeling good and getting "fucked up" its for going on a short TRIP.

So that's my advice. Smoke. Lie down. Close eyes. Once you come back to your body, or if you don't break through, then you can get up and have fun with the gravity (which is very bizarre) but

salvia takes you OUT of yourself, if broken through, its for that exact reason that you really NEED to lie down and just experience, if people had a break through but were trying to move around and be goofy they might hurt themselves.
[this advice coming from someone who has not broken through but had one chance to leave his body but was terrified and declined]


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