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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #537969 - 02/01/02 04:33 PM (22 years, 5 hours ago)

Man can I relate dude! About 6 years ago, when at my friends house, I was near a small terarium. There was some contanamation, the water in the tank had a foul smell. (there was NO bleach or H202 in the water- it was most likely stagnet). I thought nothing about it. Within 2 days I came down with some of the scariest symtoms that I have ever had in my life. The first symtom was an EXTREMELY PAINFULLY SORE NECK, I could not turn my head either direction. I broke out in a cold sweat (in fact I was sweating profusly)- I starting haluncinating real bad/ starting blacking out. I started panic-ing. I started checking my tempeture every couple of minutes. I could not drive and my gal was at work. I called a neighbor... She advised me to go to the ER. I remeber asking another neighbor that I barely knew (and he didnt care for my lifestyle either) to drive me to the ER. By the time I got to see a doc my fever was 103!! (105 is brain damage) My fever was going up about one degree every 30 minutes. I started going into shock and I thought that I was haveing a heart attack. At that point a nurse screamed at me to chill me out. (thank God for her, 'cuz I needed it)

Finally I got to speak to a doc- I described my symtoms and told him about the joint that I had earlier in the day etc... He told me (I had no insurance) without any test other than looking at my eyballs that I had Strep Throat! I thought NO WAY IS THIS STREP THROAT>... However it was explained to me that some strains are very serious and that it can kill you etc.... I was given a script for some shity antibotics and Tylenol #3... And was sent home with a 100 degree fever (at least it was going down). I was told that I would be fine in a week or so... IT TOOK ME OVER SIX WEEKS TO FULLY RECOUPERATE!! I really thought that I was going to die, damm I was in soooooooo much pain from the swelled up glands in my throat that I could barely even eat.

A few weeks after I got better I had a relative come down with something VERY simuilar to what I had.... I often wondered if some how he caught it from me (could this be contagious??)

Oh well, hang in there man. Too bad you cant submit a sample of the fungus for a lab to test without risking the law. It's the only way of knowing for sure.



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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538000 - 02/01/02 05:14 PM (22 years, 4 hours ago)

You know who's opinion that we really need about this subject? MURPLE!!!!!!!!

That guy is about as smart as it gets with these kind of issues. I think that he is studying Pharmacology or something.

Somebody should PM him about this thread!


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538064 - 02/01/02 06:33 PM (22 years, 3 hours ago)

I dont believe that I had Strep Throat either. I went to a City hospital in a gangster turf type neihborhood. (it was the closest) All that the doc did was to feel my swollen neck, look inside my throat, and check my eyes (think he might of thought that I was just tripping on something)- There was no other test done... no blood test 'cuz I had no money nor any insurance.

I have also never encountered a person that can describe a bout of strip throat that sounded as bad as what I went thru. It was hell. (DAMM THE PAIN SUCKED!)


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538294 - 02/02/02 01:34 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

When I went thru my shit I was the same way!!

-Please, be carefull with any alcohol/drugs. It's very easy to OD (experence) drinking/druging to kill this type of pain.-

We all love to party, but......


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: carbonhoots]
    #538901 - 02/02/02 10:13 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I think that yor on to something too. After doing a little online research I have discovered the descriptions of this deadly fungus seems very similaur to what I have seen growing on containamated cakes before. In fact this shit will grow on agar and birdseed (I'm sure rice too). Here is a link that has more info on the killer fungus.

http://www.mycology.adelaide.edu.au/mycology/myco.nsf/d107e9d14f09cd59692565a30044d2b6/385c33f04c2346b1292567200072c3cf?OpenDocument

I swear people: I have seem some brown shit growing on cakes before that look exactly like this stuff. And the symtoms described is exactly what a couple of us have gone thru here! It's described as being fatal. (I surely thought that I was going to die)

One solution to finding out what it is is to order some kind of test kit. There is a company in Canada that sells a fungial test kit for the fatal strains. (lost the link, sorry)


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538905 - 02/02/02 10:18 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Here is the pic of this deadly fungus growing on birdseed agar:


Look up at the top/upper right (C. neoformans)
That stuff looks very much like what I have seen on containmated BR cakes before.

The size of the spore is right in line with that of chemical warfare agents. Your sinuses are not likely to filter this one out. (some scary shit indeed)


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538946 - 02/02/02 11:44 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I think that the concences is that it could very well be a fungus- not baterial. If it is a fungus, Amoxicillin wont help. As I recall thats exactly what the doc gave me for my symtoms. I try to post the link of a perscription drug thats known to work on fungus infections.

Also, there are at least 4 diferent types of the fungus at issue here. One description was was of a yellow looking liquid.

Also the pic that I posted is of a strain that's not known to be in North America for the most part. I believe that you have perhaps another variation of this. If it was really bactierial/virus infection the Amoxicillin would take care of it in a week or so.

' hope that you feel better.


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
    #538984 - 02/03/02 01:17 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

You might want to disregard my comment about Cryptococcus neoformans var. gattii not being in North America. There are references to it being found on Trees in California. Also, given the nature of the spore business who is to say tha a print could not be contanamted from another country. From what I have found out the fungus is extremely widespread in Australia.

Here is a Canadian link for Fungus Test Kits.

http://www.discovery-diagnostics.com/immy.html


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: carbonhoots]
    #539037 - 02/03/02 02:40 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Good question.

Here is how one site defines yeast:

Yeasts
Yeasts are fungi that grow as single cells, producing daughter cells either by budding (the budding yeasts) or by binary fission (the fission yeasts). They differ from most fungi, which grow as thread-like hyphae. But this distinction is not a fundamental one, because some fungi can alternate between a yeast phase and a hyphal phase, depending on environmental conditions. Such fungi are termed dimorphic (with two shapes) and they include several that cause disease of humans.

Here we consider several examples of yeasts and dimorphic fungi:

the common baker's yeast, Saccharomyces cerevisiae
the genus Cryptococcus, which includes C. neoformans, a pathogen of humans
the dimorphic fungus Candida albicans which can be a significant pathogen of humans
some of the common leaf surface yeasts.

Here is where I found this info:
http://helios.bto.ed.ac.uk/bto/microbes/yeast.htm



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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to E [Re: JayBin]
    #539801 - 02/03/02 11:49 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Sure glad to hear that the Amoxicillin is working! (it sure didnt help me with whatever I caught a few years ago)

Thats great news!


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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to E [Re: _JJ_]
    #540009 - 02/04/02 05:24 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I'm very glad that you posted those pics.

They look very much like (in my opnion) peferctly the description of the shit that the victim (HE IS OK NOW IT SEEMS!!) has describied. (and, yes these pics should look vaigly familair to any newbe)- at least they do to me.....(Ex-newbie)

Can anyone ID???


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