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campinman
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what causes..
#5329036 - 02/22/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hollow stems?
cant seem to find any answers through the search.....
is it hereditary? like do certain strains grow more hollow stems? i know B+ is known for it, but I'm growing PFC and Cambo's. Is it substrate? i think I've ruled out substrate, i had a cake growing a couple months ago, and some were hollow, some weren't. (i should have cloned the meaty one, i know)
i cant figure this shit out, but id rather have nice meaty stems than hollow ones.
any help would be awesome.
thanks
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329050 - 02/22/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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In my opinion, it's the strain characteristics. Want meaty shrooms? Grow some Puerto Ricans.
These are solid throughout:
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329052 - 02/22/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely debatable topic.
From my personal experience. Substrates that are low in nutrients and really wet lead to hollow stems. Example a Pf cake sitting directly on perlite.
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329085 - 02/22/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not really sure, I've tried a lot of strains on a variety of substrates and get different results each time. The same strain has even produced different results.
The only time I've gotten consistently thick stems was on a nice outdoor bed, where the constant air exchange dried things out a bit. These things had stems like an oak tree, so that leads me to believe that it's more of an environmental issue than a genetic one. The same strain produced flimsly, hollow stems on an indoor tub of manure.
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campinman
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my casings aren't top-notch nutes, but i don't have cakes on perlite either, i usually go WBS->past. straw+touch of castings->50-50+ for the casing.
anyone else?
lets make it interesting
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Edited by campinman (02/22/06 07:42 PM)
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329119 - 02/22/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You forgot growth conditions man....
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campinman
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cant edit the poll.
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329140 - 02/22/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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D'oh then eh?
Seriously tho man. You will never get a definite answer and odds are even if growth parameters was an option they would probably all come out pretty even. I've used the same strain for a while now B+. I have had some stems pretty much solid others hollow as hell. But never have I had a completely rock solid stem with that strain.
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5329158 - 02/22/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've noticed mostly hollow stems with BRF and much fewer with WBS and meaty stems with poo/straw outdoors all the same strain. Substrate and how fast they mature I believe has something to do with it.
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Re: what causes.. [Re: hyphae]
#5329171 - 02/22/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
hyphae said: how fast they mature I believe has something to do with it.
in which regard? faster=meaty? slower=hollow?
these trays are fruiting and colonizing fast as hell, i dont have my journal here right with me but it is fast
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Re: what causes.. [Re: campinman]
#5330661 - 02/23/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Faster=hollower maybe. Indoor on BRF=hollow, outdoor on poo/straw= meatier IME.
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