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Automated FAE
    #5328829 - 02/22/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

FAE is critical for optimal harvests.

I don't, nor have ever "fanned" trays.

Anyone with a little ingenuity, can automate FAE.

(I am not talking pumps, as in diagram, or piston pumps)

I am talking FANS.
(as near silent as exists)

There is literally a million types of FANS out there.

Many of which are for ONLINE applications.

Or, with a little alteration can be used IN-LINE.

Keep your eyes open at garage sales, thrift stores, science surplus places, eBay & all over the place.

If you spy an INEXPENSIVE fan that might work IN-LINE.

Snap it up & try to put it to use, with a timer.

It is toilet flush simple to use PVC pipe & fittings to vent into a fruiting chamber.

With a little more ingenuity, it is also simple to modify an ULTRASONIC humidifier to in-line applications.

Then, you have the best of both worlds. :grin:
(automated FAE & Rh)

Now, all the nay sayer's will jump in about air filters.

Once you are at the pin/fruiting stage.
There is no real need for any fancy extra-ordinary air filtration.
(so long as the environment is relatively sanitary)

Once at the pinning/fruiting stage, ponder this.

The substrate is FULLY colonized.
The casing cover is fully colonized.
The tray is pinning/fruiting.

Even if a few mold spores get to it, sooner or later.
They have to germinate & grow, before there is any visible BS.
(which takes considerable time)

You can get 2 or 3 good flushes, before any contaminate is visible.

Those first few flushes, is where the bulk of the crop comes from.

Once AUTOMATED, life gets easy.


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5328855 - 02/22/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

PREACH ON BROTHER BEAVIS!! :smirk:


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5328860 - 02/22/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

>>>>>>>>>>.With a little more ingenuity, it is also simple to modify an ULTRASONIC humidifier to in-line applications.

I like that idea, but when I up grade I will have to think about that route.

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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5328872 - 02/22/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Small fans from like electronics and such need a DC power source. Batteries are kinda a pain in the ass to be changing. What do you use as a power supply to the fans?

Also, What is the difference between online and inline?


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5328895 - 02/22/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)


(whole unit is about 8 inch's square)

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Many ultrasonic humidifiers have have ROUND outlets.

Simple to alter with PVC pipe flange & a "T" PVC fitting to have it vent into an in-line application.


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: musher_420]
    #5328904 - 02/22/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not talking DC powered fans.
(batteries SUCK)


110 AC you wire or plug in an outlet.


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5328942 - 02/22/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ahh I see now :smile:

Might be a bit much for a martha sized set up.  But it would be a FANTASTIC  :smirk: :confused: alternative to a cool-mist for a mini green house set up.

Combined with an ultra sonic of course.


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: musher_420]
    #5328957 - 02/22/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Can you recommend a Ultrasonic humidifier model number, for a freezer type set up......

If one was going to go out and buy one insted of looking for deals  :grin:


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5328995 - 02/22/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, sorry.

The closet full I have all came from garage sales & thrift stores.
(on average $3 each cost).

A FOGGER in an enclosed 5g plastic bucket of water also works.
PVC pipe can be fitted to a plastic bucket lid - easy.



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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5329017 - 02/22/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Great idea now I have to place an order.....man you cost me money...when my women ask 'what do you need that for', I just blame you..lol :wink:

But I am very thankful, :tongue:

This idea I can use now,

Do have a recommendation as to the size pre FC size or know a way to figure it out.

This is what I am using for RH and heat...




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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5329047 - 02/22/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Be sure to get the buoy thing, fogger floats on.

No recommendation on a fan.

Any that blow as breeze will work.

If you get a strong one.
Simply have it timed in much shorter intervals ON.


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5329078 - 02/22/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Got it and I thank you :thumbup:


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5329160 - 02/22/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks agar, this is one post that I needed to read.
I really appreciate and crave the "mushroom cultivation for dummies" approach.  :grin:


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5365109 - 03/04/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

most air matress blower uppers are very powerfull and very compact, but loud as hell!

hook one of these up to a timer, and you are set. If you can stand the noise?

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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5365324 - 03/04/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good stuff agar. I do have to severely stress that short intervals are important. I recently completed my first grow in my automated FANNED tub (look at signature for results). The fan caused problems. My casing layer would dry out quickly (even with it on 3 minute intervals every 4 hours.) It caused misting once, even twice a day.

So I would suggest definately using an inline humidifier.

To see how much it changed, I sat and stared through my fan while it was spinning at my guages. My humidity went from 95+ to around 75 every time it kicked on. Then took another 30 minutes to get back up there (from the perlite.)

Just my 2 cents!


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: tokey666]
    #5365463 - 03/04/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

But Agar It dosen't say that on the TV..HOW CAN THIS POSSIBLY WORK :blush:...just jokes


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #5365978 - 03/04/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If batteries are a problem then cut and splice the jack from your old nintendo...


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: tokey666]
    #5367471 - 03/05/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yup, you have to be careful of automated fans.

A lot depends on how you rig them, the size of the FC & other factors. In my case FC is bigger (24 cubic feet).



The in-line system is piped through a 5 gallon bucket 3/4 full of water & there is a fogger in the bucket.

So, it will pump in a LOT of fresh air, along with a lot of mist, all at once.

Even with the fogger off, the Rh of the FAE is still fairly high, since FAE travels through the bucket of water. :stoned:


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Re: Automated FAE [Re: agar]
    #5371312 - 03/06/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i am seriously going to go this route... but i need a good fan? something to hook up to this hose here.



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Re: Automated FAE [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5376607 - 03/08/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yep, im building myself one too :smile:
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