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Aya without stomack troubles?
    #5308172 - 02/16/06 06:43 PM (18 years, 3 days ago)

Did anybody knows how to prepare Psyhotria viridis to make the brew softer on the stomack? How to extract DMT, and nothing or just a little of vaxes, tanins etc.?

I'm thinking of water extracion.

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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: VITRIOL]
    #5308176 - 02/16/06 06:45 PM (18 years, 3 days ago)

water extraction? Isn't that essentially what it is?

You could take pure harmaline and dmt. it is generally called pharmahuasca, and not ayahuasca. Nausea is part of the experience.


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5308263 - 02/16/06 07:10 PM (18 years, 3 days ago)

I'm really interested in trying extracted DMT with syrian rue or caapi vine. Has anyone tried that?


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: VITRIOL]
    #5308334 - 02/16/06 07:29 PM (18 years, 3 days ago)

Like elgr said the purge is a major part of the experience. You shouldn't try to get around it. Ayahuasca is medicine and the purge will purify your body and soul. If you research the teachings of ayahuasca shamans you will find that without the purge you are not having the full experience. It is not a recreational drug.


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: muistrue]
    #5313932 - 02/18/06 04:57 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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FractalDust said:
Like elgr said the purge is a major part of the experience. You shouldn't try to get around it. Ayahuasca is medicine and the purge will purify your body and soul. If you research the teachings of ayahuasca shamans you will find that without the purge you are not having the full experience. It is not a recreational drug.




Well, I know that, but maybe my English is so poor :confused: .
I know that La purga Will purify my body and soul (I experienced that), but I always use to cook Jurema with lemon acid and always get very acidic brew which tastes like shit and it is to harsh to stomach, and now thinking about preparing Her without acid and without long cooking which extract to many unwanted chemicals. Did anybody try some different vay that makes the brew less harsh on stomach?
I know that it isn't recreational drug. To me it is not a "drug" anyway, it is a powerful medicine, an opener of astral plane.

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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: muistrue]
    #5313953 - 02/18/06 05:06 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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FractalDust said:
Ayahuasca is medicine and the purge will purify your body and soul.




how will stomach discomfort purify your body?


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: TODAY]
    #5313991 - 02/18/06 05:22 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

You've never done ayahuasca, eh?

VITRIOL, have you done viridis before? I think you'll find it easier than jurema.


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5314050 - 02/18/06 05:42 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

All I know is that 4 grams of rue eaten over an hours time, rather than all at once, will serve your purpose and not make you very sick.
The viridis(given the lesser amount of plant material than the others) is usually not the soarse of the nausea.

It was not a brew using rue though, I ate the stuff over a long period of time and it lasted longer, and there was NO NAUSEA WHAT SO EVER. The well prepared viridis tea was drank at the appropriate time after I ate the rue(chewed thoroughly).

Just thought id mention that because although it is not a common method, I experienced ZERO nausea and tripped harder than I ever thought was possible without passing out.
Im not a big fan of nausea, amnesia or passing out during a trip.


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: stemmer]
    #5315813 - 02/19/06 08:24 AM (18 years, 17 hours ago)

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stemmer said:
All I know is that 4 grams of rue eaten over an hours time, rather than all at once, will serve your purpose and not make you very sick.
The viridis(given the lesser amount of plant material than the others) is usually not the soarse of the nausea.

It was not a brew using rue though, I ate the stuff over a long period of time and it lasted longer, and there was NO NAUSEA WHAT SO EVER. The well prepared viridis tea was drank at the appropriate time after I ate the rue(chewed thoroughly).

Just thought id mention that because although it is not a common method, I experienced ZERO nausea and tripped harder than I ever thought was possible without passing out.
Im not a big fan of nausea, amnesia or passing out during a trip.




How long did you need to consume rue? Can you describe the process that you used to prepare viridis tea, please?

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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: VITRIOL]
    #5316735 - 02/19/06 02:56 PM (18 years, 11 hours ago)

Over a period of 40 min. to one hour with the rue.

Chopped up Viridis and a very small amount of rue(.3 grams) was boiled at varying intensities for about an hour and a half, then steeped(continued soaking) for almost a day.
Squeeze out the juices from the plant matter after pouring.


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Re: Aya without stomack troubles? [Re: stemmer]
    #5328196 - 02/22/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks. It helped me a lot.


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