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Ask good questions on Freevibe
#5325673 - 02/21/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Freevibe has a section where you can ask questions, and they are answered publicly on their version of a forum. If we try and sound stupid enough, we might get a decent question through. Here's the link:
http://www.freevibe.com/Share/threads.aspx?id=12
This is what I asked...
"My biology teacher was teaching us about Francis Crick, the scientist who discovered DNA. Someone raised their hand and said that Crick was on LSD when he discovered it. I raised my hand and said it coudln't be true, because LSD ruins lives and there's no way a nobel prize winner would take it. What's the truth?"
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
#5325683 - 02/21/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Trevor (2/1/2006 4:52:48 PM) How many people have died as a result of marijuana overdoses?
To find out statistical information regarding marijuana overdose, you can visit the website of the Office of Applied Studies at www.DrugAbuseStatistics.samhsa.gov. FREEVIBE
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
#5325692 - 02/21/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think the thing about crick may be untrue though.
someone should ask why it's okay for native americans to use peyote, but everyone else isn't allowed, because isn't peyote very dangerous and destructive to the mind?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325709 - 02/21/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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leery11 said: i think the thing about crick may be untrue though.
http://www.hallucinogens.com/lsd/francis-crick.html
Let's not pull a "Freevibe", okay?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: DNKYD]
#5325743 - 02/21/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hey i got that info from shroomery, people were discrediting the assertion that he got the idea from LSD.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325761 - 02/21/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I make a habit of not believing the bullshit people spew here.
And how can you discredit something that the man himself experienced?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: DNKYD]
#5325776 - 02/21/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not sure, there was a discussion on him stealing the idea from someone else, actually.... links may have even been provided.
I wasn't making a definite assertion, I was just wondering if it was in fact true or not. Lots of drug things are untrue on both sides of the spectrum.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: DNKYD]
#5325785 - 02/21/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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heres my question.
Hi there! In my world history class, my teacher mentioned that many native american peoples used to use some special mushrooms and some sort of cactus for religious reasons. I found out later that both the mushrooms and cactus were used because they had drugs in them and, i also found out that these drugs are illegal and very bad. I have always liked native americans but, how could they use illegal drugs and, for religion no less. I always though that drugs would lead you away from god. Why would they used drugs for religion and why weren't these drugs illegal in the native cultures?
somehow i dont think they are gonna be able to put together enoughbs to answer it.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Dimmy]
#5325827 - 02/21/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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THey'd probably tell you to obey the laws of your society.
that it was okay for them to use, but it's not okay for us to use, because laws = morality no questions asked.
i mean i don't really know how they can address the issue.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Dimmy]
#5325835 - 02/21/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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they dont answer questions or post experiences and stories that don't support their insane agenda
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325842 - 02/21/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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leery11 said: hey i got that info from shroomery, people were discrediting the assertion that he got the idea from LSD.
Of course he didn't get the idea "from LSD." However, it is very well possible he was under the influence of LSD when he discovered DNA.
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Rumours circulated later in his life that Crick told a colleague that he had taken small doses of the hallucinogenic drug LSD[23]. However, during his life, Crick was ready to sue anyone who put these rumours into print. Crick was a founding member of a group called SOMA, one of many organizations that has tried to prevent criminalization of cannabis. See: http://www.intuition.org/txt/crick2.htm regarding Crick's comments on L.S.D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick
Taking the views of the majority of the general public (regarding LSD) into account I can completely understand why he would deny being under the influence of LSD at the time he discovered DNA.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
#5325850 - 02/21/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My question:
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I heard from someone that Carl Sagan used to smoke marijuana regularly. But how can this be, since he was a famous scientist, and marijuana causes brain damage?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Mitchnast]
#5325851 - 02/21/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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someone ask about the pitcher that pitched a perfect game on LSD, and why he was able to pitch so amazingly well while on this obviously debilitating drug.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5325880 - 02/21/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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psilocyberin said: someone ask about the pitcher that pitched a perfect game on LSD, and why he was able to pitch so amazingly well while on this obviously debilitating drug.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
#5325887 - 02/21/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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How long do I wait for my post to show up?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Silversoul]
#5325892 - 02/21/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who looks at this site anyway though, 8-12 year olds?
my question: "I learned in my history class about the history of LSD recently. It turns out that a psychologist called Timothy Leary did a huge study of the effects of the drug on thousands of people.
Almost all of them said they would do it again, and most of them said that it greatly improved their lives.
If there is such good resarch out there that shows that LSD has positive effects, how come it is called a dangerous drug, and why was it outlawed? I had never heard about this before and thought that all drugs were illegal because they were dangerous and ruined lives, not made your lives better. In fact I even heard that LSD had been used to cure people of alcoholism and criminal behaviors. If that is the case, why is it placed in schedule I so that it cannot be used as a medicine?"
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Silversoul]
#5325896 - 02/21/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ooh ooh! ask why so many people find God or jesus while tripping on mushrooms or LSD. It cant be that bad if it leads people to God right? lol
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Silversoul]
#5325899 - 02/21/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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They censor it. Most questions like that don't show up. If you were to ask "OMG MY FRIEND KATIE IS SMOKINT POT HOW LONG UNTIL SHES A CRAKC WHORE" they'd post it with an answer for you. Real questions that go against their agendas aren't going to show up.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: MisterMyco]
#5325907 - 02/21/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's not the point.
its fun to question the man.
someone ask this:
"Your commercials tell us to make our own decisions and to not let people control our lives, yet you are doing the exact same things by sending one sided messages and saturating the television market."
well its more of a statement.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Noviseer]
#5325915 - 02/21/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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my submission:
'I recently read that Steve Jobs, the cofounder of Apple Computers, described LSD as "one of the most important experiences of his life". How could he have been so successful and contribute so much to society with a brain damaged by LSD?'
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325923 - 02/21/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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leery11 said: Who looks at this site anyway though, 8-12 year olds?
From the message board policy:
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If you are in middle school or high school, this site is for you! If you are an adult, there are so many places to discuss the important issues surrounding drug use and abuse on the Internet - leave these boards for actual teens.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325928 - 02/21/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ah someone should ask: "My friends smoke lots of pot and I've been really interested in trying it, but don't want to break the law. This summer they are inviting me to go to Amsterdam with them for a Europe vacation, and I heard it's legal to smoke it there. Is it okay for me to smoke weed if I'm in Amsterdam since it isn't against the law?"
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325929 - 02/21/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ask them: if so many people die from taking drugs, then why are there so many "druggies" left?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: MisterMyco]
#5325931 - 02/21/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have a friend, sibling, or loved one that is using drugs, you are not alone. If you want to speak with someone now, call 1-800-788-2800 (24-hours a day/7 days a week) to be referred to a teen hotline or receive other resources. You can also click here Thank you for visiting freevibe.com. You are now leaving the site. The Office of National Drug Control Policy is not responsible for the content or information gathering practices of other websites you are linking to. to get advice and answers to many common questions about drugs from a substance abuse expert.
Hah, I should call that number.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: MisterMyco]
#5325942 - 02/21/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well dude i dunno, there are people who have legitimate drug problems that may need help....
website resources are one thing but i'm not so sure about calling up a drug-help hotline no matter how propogandically oriented it is.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: MisterMyco]
#5325954 - 02/21/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"My friend is 20 something years old and he smokes the marijuana and eats hallucinogenic mushrooms! sometimes he takes ECSTACY! Hes currently working two jobs, a member of a few professional administrations and a volunteer with the Red Cross. He makes great money and is going to college part time with good grades in complicated science classes. How can I show him he is ruining his life with drugs?"
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5325960 - 02/21/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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when i get done with work, im going to ask them all about why ritalin and all the other AMPHETAMINES are ok to take, but substances with the exact same chemical makeup are bad?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5325968 - 02/21/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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someone should ask, "my good friend smokes pot everyday but somehow he still manages to get straight A s, a 1400 on his SATs and he recently got into a very good University. i've never smoked pot and i'm going to a comunity college and i had a 2.8 in high school. Whats the deal?"
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5325972 - 02/21/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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or better yet, Ill ask them about some kids at school take ritalin, and I heard that it was amphetamine, which is a schedule 2 drug, and they offered me some, and said it was ok because their mom gave it to them and it is legal.... so would it be ok for me to take it?
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Dimmy]
#5325974 - 02/21/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Their answer: Dear Dimmy, obviously if your friend didn't take drugs his grades would be even better. Perhaps he cheats on his tests? At any rate, smoking pot gets you ARRESTED and ruins your school career, don't be fooled by how innocent marijuana looks, it is very dangerous for those exact reasons.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: MisterMyco]
#5326002 - 02/21/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMyco said: T"OMG MY FRIEND KATIE IS SMOKINT POT HOW LONG UNTIL SHES A CRAKC WHORE"
This is EXACTLY the type of shit I remember reading on freevibe.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: TYL3R]
#5326018 - 02/21/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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here is my question I just posted.... under the nickname gryphendor, figured with that and a few typos they would believe my 6th grade acting ability.
"i hav some friends at school who take pills they call riddlin and there mom gave it to them and they said it was ok is it ok for me to take it to? they say it makes them feel good and helps them learn. they said i shuld get my mom to take me to teh doctor and he will give me some."
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5326025 - 02/21/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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pot smokers are cheaters!
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5326034 - 02/21/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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leery11 said: well dude i dunno, there are people who have legitimate drug problems that may need help....
website resources are one thing but i'm not so sure about calling up a drug-help hotline no matter how propogandically oriented it is.
Fuck them.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: wrestler_az]
#5326037 - 02/21/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Keep in mind, there are not very many sites and forums with as liberal a free speech policy as the shroomery, some people (mostly trolls who got in trouble, but I digress) complain, but really you can get away with quite a bit here. That's not how it works in many places on the net, free vibe being one of them. They very actively moderate and will not allow your question or whatever to be posted if they feel it goes against their point of view.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: gdman]
#5326051 - 02/21/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sucks so bad because there isn't a good way to prove and demonstrate the censorship to the kids that really should be getting the truth.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: TYL3R]
#5326055 - 02/21/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TYL3R said:
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leery11 said: well dude i dunno, there are people who have legitimate drug problems that may need help....
website resources are one thing but i'm not so sure about calling up a drug-help hotline no matter how propogandically oriented it is.
Fuck them.
if you call up and harrass a hotline someone that needs help might not be able to get through.
anyway we all know freevibe censors, but you never know if they'll take some of the questions legitimately and post them.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Ekstaza]
#5326074 - 02/21/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It really does suck, instead of educating kids on harm reduction and other important subjects when it comes to drugs, we indoctrinate them. Then they grow up and sometimes they end up doing some really stupid shit with drugs. You see it all the time.
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: gdman]
#5326084 - 02/21/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah.
my brother told me weed is 10x more addictive then cigarettes.
and when i was in the system.
2nd grade. I said that people should go to jail for life for doing drugs, because drugs ruin people's lives.
I MEANT it.
Product of a 1/4 police 1/4 military 1/4 education family and all the indoctrination in the world didn't keep me from eventually dabbling in the psychedelic.......
whats weird is i think my grandpa might have said to me that he let drug offendors go if they were honest to him.... or that he felt really bad for having to arrest them, but i might be making such memories up.
I also have this memory of him busting up this HUGE pot grow ...... I don't know if it's something I observed before being born, or if I'm just making things up..... but it's sad if it really happened.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (02/21/06 09:20 PM)
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Psilocyan
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: leery11]
#5326138 - 02/21/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What happens when you flat out lie to kids is that EVENTUALLY they see through the bullshit. Kids are fed lie after lie about the "dangers" of every drug imaginable, and at age 16 or 17, when their curiousity catches up to them and they do have that first joint, they realize:
"I'm not a terrorist, I don't want to do harder drugs, I'm not going to die, I'm not addicted, etc..."
Then when they figure out that everything they "learned" about marijuana was total fiction, they chalk everything else up as lies, and in a matter of time it's heroin, coccaine, pills...
So before you know it you have a kid who's smoking and snorting anything and everything, because hey, if they lied about how harmless pot was, then they must be full of shit about everything else.
It's beyond control, and I can't see any widespread change in the future. McKenna didn't necessarily "fail" at enlightening mass society with the idea of drug legalization and proper education, but I think it was made clear that Western culture has no room for the nature of the psychedelic.
Sorry, got on a little bit of a rant there...
-------------------- I Psilocybe weilii... "I think of going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience like going to the grave without ever having sex." -McKenna
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Psilocyan]
#5326164 - 02/21/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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why cant anyone hack freevibe and send everyone to mp3's of Bill Hicks?
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leery11
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Re: Ask good questions on Freevibe [Re: Psilocyan]
#5326168 - 02/21/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i don't agree with you at all.
everyone knows pot is harmless, even the conservative churcheys kind of feel that way, though they still hate it.
on the other hand people generally believe the anti-cocaine propoganda, because, it's more accurate.
it's just that kids want to get real fucked up and will take anything, when they can't get pot they'll do dxm and whippets and huff things.
and when they can't do shrooms and lsd they'll do dxm in particular, like i do.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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