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OfflineDelinquentes
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A near-miss story and a tip
    #5324245 - 02/21/06 02:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Back a couple of years ago, I worked for an internet company. It was tradition that when I got off work, I would pack a bowl in the parking lot and smoke it on my drive home.

This day was no different....I packed a bowl and headed out. I was driving on a road getting ready to enter a major highway. I had just taken a huge hit when I saw a cop come past me on the opposite side of a two-lane road, and as a force of habit, I glanced in the rear-view to make sure he kept going. He didn't keep going. He pulled in to a driveway, backed out and came after me.

So here I am, blowing out a huge hit, trying to hide my pipe and a cop has his lights on behind me. I played like I didn't see him until after I had made the turn on to the highway ramp, then I pulled over. I was shaking like a leaf! I got everything hid and had my information out for him before he got out of his car. I lit a cigarette and waited. He opened his car door to step out and I hear "WOOF WOOF!!!" Oh no, he's got a goddamn DOG!!

I am freaking on the inside by now....I'm scared shitless actually. I guess I maintained my composure well enough, and he asks to see my information. The whole time all I can think about is that the dog is going to alert on my paperwork when the cop goes back to the car or he is going to smell weed and that I am fucked. The cop asks me why I thought I got pulled over and I told him I had no idea. I wasn't speeding or anything like that and as far as I knew the car was in working order. He tells me that my inspection sticker was expired and ask me if I knew. I must have had a shocked look on my face because he said "Looks like you didn't son." I tell him I rarely pay attention to that, the wife usually handles it.

He goes back to the car and opens his door.....WOOF, WOOF, WOO WOO WOO WOO WOOF. I hear that fucking dog and I about shit myself again! I sit for about 10 minutes and he comes back with a citation....If I prove an inspection within 5 days, I am clear. Needless to say, I complied and all was well..

The tip is this....before you go out joy riding or even to the store for bread, make sure you check out your vehicle to make sure you are within the law or it may turn in to a BAD day.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5324378 - 02/21/06 02:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

it seems like 90% of the "cops caught me smoking pot" stories involve a car.

The tip is this...

the tip should be "don't smoke pot while you're driving or drive while high because you've got a good chance of getting busted and you'll be a danger to others on the road".


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: wilshire]
    #5324554 - 02/21/06 03:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

There is no real danger in being high and driving, in fact there were some studies that showed pot to tend to cause people to drive more safely, in contrast to alcohol.

99.99% of the danger is in getting busted


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5324780 - 02/21/06 04:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

damn you got lucky.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: wilshire]
    #5326747 - 02/22/06 12:43 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

wilshire said:
the tip should be "don't smoke pot while you're driving or drive while high because you've got a good chance of getting busted and you'll be a danger to others on the road".




While I appreciate your concern, I can assure you that me driving high is 94.5% better then the fucktards on the road talking on a cell phone, reading the paper or the best one I have seen yet....I saw a woman eating a bowl of cereal while operating a motor vehicle. I kid you not.

There have been studies done (and well hidden) that verify that driving drunk is far worse than driving high. I'm not condoning driving while high, but I AM saying that it's not for you to judge.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5327347 - 02/22/06 08:11 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

There is no real danger in being high and driving, in fact there were some studies that showed pot to tend to cause people to drive more safely, in contrast to alcohol.

yeah, driving stoned is safer than driving drunk. it's not safer than driving sober, and no study has ever suggested otherwise.

driving stoned is irresponsible drug use. it's not victimless; it puts others in danger, and it's the sort of behavior the anti-drug crowd grabs onto to justify continued prohibition.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5327353 - 02/22/06 08:16 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I AM saying that it's not for you to judge.

i and people i care about drive on the same roads as people who drive impaired. it is certainly for me to judge.

don't get my wrong, i love cannabis, and i have no problem at all with people smoking it. but why can't you wait until you get home? are you that much of a fiend that you need to light up as soon as you get off work? have some consideration for other people on the road.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5327372 - 02/22/06 08:36 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Driving while under the influence of cannabis not only recklessly endangers other people, it also gives fuel to anti-drug protestors, and gives drug use in general a bad image.

There is absolutely no excuse for driving while impaired. It's irresponsible and massively selfish.

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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: OJK]
    #5327583 - 02/22/06 10:49 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You guys take this whole thing of protecting the "image of the drug user" thing way too far.

That's a contridiction in terms anyway, since when does drug use have anything at all to do with maintaining an "image" elitist BS?

So, answer me this. I'm high all the time. All day every day. So I guess that means I should never ever drive eh?

Well, I'll quit driving, as soon as everyone else quits drinking coffee and driving, that's a drug too.

Also, please refrain from smoking tobacco too, handling burning objects while operating a motor vehicle is dangerous.

And I expect every driver to do a complete bumper to bumper safety check on their vehicle each time they plan on getting behind the wheel. Very selfish if they dont.

Oh, and to the 95% of you that are speeding, slow the fuck down. You might hit a stoner like me who is driving slowly and cautiously.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5330667 - 02/23/06 05:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

> Well, I'll quit driving, as soon as everyone else quits drinking coffee and driving, that's a drug too.

The single most stupid analogy I have heard on these forums. Coffee is not a drug, any more than a cigarette is a drug. Coffee contains many substances (drugs), including caffeine, but none of these substances impair ones ability to safely operate heavy machinery at normal active dosages. If you cannot see the difference between the effects of coffee and the effects of cannabis on ones mental abilities, then you have got some serious mental issues and need to lay off the crack pipe for a while.

You entire post can be summarized as: "People do a lot of dangerous stuff while driving, so I will be dangerous too."

It all boils down to "impairment" while driving. If drinking coffee impairs my ability to drive, then I shouldn't be drinking coffee while I am driving. Same goes for eating food, talking on the cell phone, putting on makeup, reading the paper, or driving under the influence of a mind altering substance. It doesn't matter what it is, if it impairs ones ability to drive, then one shouldn't be doing it and driving at the same time, period.

> And I expect every driver to do a complete bumper to bumper safety check on their vehicle each time they plan on getting behind the wheel.

Again, a stupid expectation. If I knowingly drive a car that is not fit to be driven, then I am being negligent towards other drivers. This is no different than if I knowingly drive a car while impaired.

Do you expect somebody to get a blood test to ensure that no "drugs" are in their system before they get into a car? Why then, would you expect a person to do a bumper to bumper safety check on their car every time they prepare to drive? I know if I am impaired the same way I know if my car is unsafe.

> Oh, and to the 95% of you that are speeding, slow the fuck down. You might hit a stoner like me who is driving slowly and cautiously.

They only appear to be speeding because you are stoned. A slow driver can cause an accident accident as easily as a speeding driver.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Seuss]
    #5330955 - 02/23/06 09:19 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, if you can't accept the personal responsibility of driving without saying "I'll drive safer right after everyone else does" You shouldn't be allowed to drive at all. Your goal should be making the road as safe a place as you can, not getting away with as much as you can by rationalizing your way out of it. Take some fucking responsibility.

You nearly got caught, and majorly fucked. Yet the moral of the story is check your license plate tags? If only you *were* caught, maybe it would knock some sense into you. Then again, judging by your posts, it probably wouldn't.


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5330975 - 02/23/06 09:25 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

> Then again, judging by your posts, it probably wouldn't.

I hate it when I forget to change the "reply to"... :wink:


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5331048 - 02/23/06 09:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I care about "the image of drug use" because drugs having a bad image is a large part of the reason they're illegal. Drug users who are irresponsible with the safety of others indirectly contribute to me not being legally allowed to take drugs myself.

If a person smokes weed and then crashes their car or hits someone, because their reaction time reduced, it's fuels the image that weed is bad for society, and helps prevent considerate weed-smokers from being able to smoke the drug legally.

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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: OJK]
    #5331133 - 02/23/06 10:32 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

^^^^^

If a person smokes weed and then crashes their car or hits someone, regardless of the cause, it's fuels the ...


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Seuss]
    #5331951 - 02/23/06 02:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That's the second time that has happened recently. doh. :frown: :smile:


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Seuss]
    #5335521 - 02/24/06 05:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Don't you people realize that they will continually make drug users sound bad even if we never do anything wrong.

It's called a "lie".

Driving a car is dangerous, period. Me being high does not make me crash.

I know a dude where I wouldn't get into a car with him unless he had 2-3 beers.

Things are not always as they seem.

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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5335964 - 02/24/06 08:20 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Great, they'll do what they can to make us look bad. But why FEED them? Why on earth would you contribute to that? And why the hell wouldn't you take precautions that are so easy to do? There's tons of stupid shit I could do on the road and say, "Someone else is doing something worse, no big deal." but why don't you take some damn individual responsibility?


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5337410 - 02/25/06 09:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That is an utterly ridiculous argument. I have a friend who routinely drives while totally drunk. In his opinion, being drunk doesn't impair his ability to drive. Should I accept his opinion? Or should I instead rely on impartial conclusions reached by scientific testing that alcohol use impairs the ability of a person to drive safely?

And yes, people lie about the affects of drug use on people and on society, but rational people tend to be swayed more by actual statistics (number of people arrested for driving while under the influence of an illegal drug) than by supposition and fabrication (using drugs makes you more likely to be a communist).

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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5337853 - 02/25/06 12:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

All I'm saying is that I don't believe that MJ messes up your ability to drive any more than a lot of things.

You cannot be a 100% safe driver all the time. The world is set up in such a way that you must drive if you want the same things everyone else has.

This means that people everywhere will drive when they are tired, stoned, drunk, on the phone, speed etc. etc.

I have crashed a car driving tired before, I wish I was driving high instead that day.

I am firmly against driving drunk, but driving high seems to me to be about the same as driving with bare feet. You know you really shouldn't do it, but it's probably not going to matter.

Just like if you had a bona-fide scrip for Valium and took it twice a day or something, people like that still drive. the bottle says: "Use care when operating dangerous machinery."

So the government tells us that we should "use care" when driving on Valium.

And I say again, that I would rather drive among stoned, thinking drivers than Valium zombies, wouldn't you?


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Re: A near-miss story and a tip [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5338040 - 02/25/06 01:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Microcosmatrix said:
There is no real danger in being high and driving, in fact there were some studies that showed pot to tend to cause people to drive more safely, in contrast to alcohol.




drinking and driving is safer than loading a glock and pulling the trigger with
the barrel in your mouth, lots of accidents happen when people are stoned, many
more happen when they're drinking, are drugs a factor in the accident, YES
because you were under the influence at the time, I wonder if the studies
you cited actualy portrayed real life scenarios like people trying to light
the pipe while they're driving

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