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InTheFlesh714
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Mescaline
#5324056 - 02/21/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright woo, my friend can get me some mesc but in a microdot. He says they're each 75mg, and he told me you buy them by 4. he said its mesc/MOD or something. any of you know what mod is? he said its supposed to help the come down, but i have no idea
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If its on a microdot, I doubt it's mesc. For threshold mesc trips, you need around ~100mg, for a common/strong trip, you need upto 300mg. Its more likely to be LSD in a microdot than Mesc.
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mescaline microdots? haven't heard about those in a while... if it is indeed a "mircodot" than it's LSD, if it's gel cap with powder, I'd guess some kind of PEA RC.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: gdman]
#5324087 - 02/21/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh hmm, well looks like ive landed myself on some LSD then... MWHAHAHA!
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but yeah he only sells them in a group of 4 so thats why i thought it could be mesc, but you know what MOD is?
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I wouldnt be so sure its LSD either. I would be warry of anyone selling one drug as another.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: dedjam]
#5324117 - 02/21/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're right, let me rephrase, it COULD be acid if it's a itty bitty teeny tiny little pill, it COULD be. Or it could be nothing, or it could be who knows? Frankly the whole thing sounds shady just because he's selling them as "mescaline."
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Re: Mescaline [Re: gdman]
#5324126 - 02/21/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Exactly, Ive never heard of real mescal in dots, its just too small of a quantity (atleast to my limited knowledge). If it was really LSD, I doubt he would have trouble selling it as such.
So either he doesnt know what he has (probably likely), or somone is trying to sell off some RC's. I see it around here all the time, although ive never seen an RC as a microdot either, im sure its possible.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: dedjam]
#5324140 - 02/21/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just read on Erowid that its about impossible to put Mescaline in a microdot. So what I'm gonna do is wait for my friend to take it cause he does everything and i'll have him tell me if its LSD or not. I've never done LSD but you think it would be smart to candyflip the first time?
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If I haven't taken a drug before, I like to take it by itself the first time, but trust me, you will throughly enjoy acid on it's own.
That's just me though, but you have your whole life to take all kinds of drugs, so you don't have to rush into anything.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: gdman]
#5324205 - 02/21/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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he said its mesc/MOD or something. any of you know what mod is? he said its supposed to help the come down, but i have no idea
That MOD thing in particular makes me think its bullshit. Are you sure he didn't say DOB or something?
Edited by abrad84 (02/21/06 03:20 PM)
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Re: Mescaline [Re: abrad84]
#5324390 - 02/21/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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erowidlink
But in short. The avg weight of a microdot is 7.5mg, most of that weight is binders (seeing how an active dose of LSD is much smaller than 7.5mg)
So, sure - you /could/ have microdots being mesc. Mind you, assume even half of that weight is binders, so 3.5mg as mesc and the other 3mg being binders,and you'd need like, ~80 some microdots to get a common dose of mesc.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5324422 - 02/21/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MOD = DOM? perhaps you have some DOM microdots?
I really have no clue, I've never heard of MOD before.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5324434 - 02/21/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its certainly not mescaline, but I can tell you for sure, so many morons find 2ci to be like mescaline that 2ci is often sold as mescaline. Ive seen that done so many times it makes me sick to think about it. Atleast those two substances are related in a way. I have been offered mescaline many times in pills or powdered form and concerts etc, but then Id ask" so what is the chemical really, because I know its not mescaline", most of them have told me its 2ci(and then tell me I must know what im talking about and give a discount though I never take them up on it), some actually dont know what they have. You likely have an RC, if not its acid(it would be sad to see acid sold that way and would be an error on the part of the distributer and his pawns because LSD is in such high demand).
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Re: Mescaline [Re: stemmer]
#5324473 - 02/21/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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2ci wouldn't fit in a microdot either.
DOM would, but you're not going to find DOM these days, it's certainly less common than LSD. I'd trade some LSD to try it though.
Could be DOB, DOI, DOC, 5-MeO-AMT, the usual. I've never heard of any of them in dots, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible.
InTheFlesh714, as far as mescaline microdots go, I expected better from you. You've been around for a while 
I mean, just look at the dosage of mescaline. To even have a weak psychoactive effect, that dot would have to weigh .2g on a scale *without* binders. How many microdots would have to go on a scale before it even gets to .10?
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In 15 MG doses it would.
Without binders, or with some it could fit and still slip by with being called a microdot.
Although I do agree, "Could be DOB, DOI, DOC, 5-MeO-AMT, the usual".
Pure 2ci at 20 mg is very little in weight, microdots mean nothing in this case, because we dont know the size of the microdot.
You could call a blotter hit sized pill a microdot if you wanted to.
Edited by stemmer (02/21/06 03:35 PM)
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elgr said: InTheFlesh714, as far as mescaline microdots go, I expected better from you. You've been around for a while 
yeah I know, I've never really done any research on mescaline. But thank you guys for all your information, this is exactly why I love this site so much. I learn something new everyday
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On a side note, I would like to grow my own cacti (I think its right in that form), which cacti is best for extracting a good dose of mesc?
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its not mescaline at all. and do to rareity its probally NOT lsd.
if anything i would say its an RC> better check check man, and let us know how things go.
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Search for my posts on the subject, I have a million of them. In short, skip peruvianus unless it's imported from south america, pick up some pachanoi and bridgesii, ideally a few from different sources.
Stemmer, I guess you're right. I'm not really sure how much of a microdot is binder. But microdot pictures I've seen are less than half (in diameter) as big as a hit of blotter. Still, one could fuck with the sizes a little like you say without setting off too many worries in customers.
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its not mescaline at all. and do to rareity its probally NOT lsd.
if anything i would say its an RC> better check check man, and let us know how things go.
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I'll again point out that if you want a live cactus, skip the torch.
Dry is another story, the skin tends to be good, but it's probably really macrogonus. Not as familliar a name, though.
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hrmm, on a possibly somewhat unrelated note.
I've just noticed that a local shop near me, under its 'Live Plants' available for sale, list Lophophora williamsii / Peyote. *ponders*
Being able to walk 15 mins and pick it up in person would sure beat having to order it off of the internet.
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elgr said: 2ci wouldn't fit in a microdot either.
DOM would, but you're not going to find DOM these days, it's certainly less common than LSD. I'd trade some LSD to try it though.
Could be DOB, DOI, DOC, 5-MeO-AMT, the usual. I've never heard of any of them in dots, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible.
InTheFlesh714, as far as mescaline microdots go, I expected better from you. You've been around for a while 
I mean, just look at the dosage of mescaline. To even have a weak psychoactive effect, that dot would have to weigh .2g on a scale *without* binders. How many microdots would have to go on a scale before it even gets to .10?
there was a report of some DOM from Florida not too long ago on tokeup.
he did a pretty good job at describing it.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5324857 - 02/21/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah is there a site where i can get an excess of information about the different species of cacti, like the time it takes for them to grow, or w/e i dunno what else to think of right now. for some reason i feel a bit agitated i dunno why
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Re: Mescaline [Re: sui]
#5324875 - 02/21/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Florida? I'm from Florida lol
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InTheFlesh714 said: Florida? I'm from Florida lol
then you might actually have some DOM, 
if thats what was meant by MOD. The report was for liquid on sugarcubes, but its possible some microdots were made.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: sui]
#5326105 - 02/21/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I only hope lol
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but just because there is some in Florida by freak coincidence, doesnt mean you should use ANY less caution.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: sui]
#5326120 - 02/21/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Mescaline [Re: sui]
#5326313 - 02/21/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You'd be a lucky little shit. 
kaniz, makes sense. You're in canada, right? Headshops sell them sometimes. Never enough/in price range/old enough to dose, but nice plants.
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Hrmmm, I'll need to see. They arnt so much a headshop. They sell alot of seeds/etc, and books on shamanistic/traditional use of plants, aya, etc. Seems to be a shop that takes things like this to heart/seriously and not selling headshop stuff to stoner kids.
May need to inquire to how much/old they are. Even if I cant dose off of them right away, may be some nice plants to keep around for a few years. How hard are they to take care of?
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5326735 - 02/22/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very easy to take care of, just don't overwater them. That, leading to root rot is probably the number one way to kill them. Also don't put them out into full sun, or they'll get scorched. I'd get a couple of them, so they can pollinate eachother and get you some more seeds. Also just buy seeds. Get some pereskiopsis and pedro to graft on, and you'll have a booming factory in a few years.
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Well,I dont really have the space for a booming factory. However, I contacted the store to inquire what they have and how much. They responded with
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Seeds are 10/$20 and have a germination rate of about 50%. Some 3-yr olds at $60, 2/$100, 3+ @$40. Three 10-yr plus at $200-250 each
Curious though, how old would one need to be to be able to dose off of it? While I dont plan on buying a 10yr old one then dosing with it (Would seem an awful waste). But, if I did end up getting a few of them going at once - curious minds would like to know.
I took a quick poke around erowid and couldnt find the answer I'm looking for, but dont have the time to do a super-indepth research at the moment.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5332631 - 02/23/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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A study last year showed that grafted cacti are not slower at producing alkaloids, as many forum members seem to think. You can easily get a loph the size of a baseball in 3 years, even less.
As far as a "factory", would you settle for a 4x2 foot area? You can really get a ton going in very little space using pereskiopsis.
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5332660 - 02/23/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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*ponders* Indeed, 4x2 isnt that big of a space at all. And well, my BF wants to start a little indoor garden/plant thing anyways just for the sake of having plants inside.
*mind gets a pondering for what to do.....*
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Re: Mescaline [Re: kaniz]
#5332737 - 02/23/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pereskiopsis need (even prefer I've heard) very little root space. I've got them growing an inch and a half apart just fine.
If you did this in a south facing window (might even need some shade protection for a while) or with 2 decent lights... my calculations say 512 plants max in that area. Then throw in all the pups they put out on pereskiopsis, whatever you want to graft to pedros or grow rootbound, and the fact that when they start flowering, a pollinated flower will put out 20-30 seeds. Even if they aren't pollinated, they self pollinate resulting in a couple seeds.
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