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Invisiblethedudenj
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straw
    #5323660 - 02/21/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

how good is straw for growing cubes and how many cc's would i need for a 4lb mycobag of straw


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5323684 - 02/21/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Straw can work well, though it has the potential to contaminate easily.

The way to use it, however, isn't to just inject spores directly into it - you want to 'spawn' to it, which means that you use another substrate (Brown Rice Flour Cakes, Rye grains, Popcorn, etc), grow the spores on that substrate, then mix the colonized substrate with the straw.
Do some searches and look through the FAQ.
Remember also that the ratio of spawn to bulk is always 1:5.
That means that with five pounds of straw, you'd need one pound of spawn, etc.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: straw [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #5323697 - 02/21/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well then why are there 4 lb straw mycobags with self healing injection site? im now thinking of just going with grain i want to grow it right out of the spawn bag for my first then my next one then move to casing, thrid moving it to casing with bulk substrain


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5323718 - 02/21/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i really rather do one of these with golden teachers im thinking 4cc should be enough in each corner a cc


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5323726 - 02/21/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Be my guest then - I'm not going to stop you.

I didn't say that you couldn't...i just said that it's more common and probably a better idea in terms of number of flushes, size of flushes, and size of shrooms if you spawn to straw rather than use it as a direct substrate.


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Re: straw [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #5323782 - 02/21/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, i would have to agree with Room4Shroom... Just fruiting out of a straw bag will PROBABALY not do that well for you. You may want to consider a combo of WBS and rye , I've seen some people report very good results from just injecting, colonizing and fruiting within the bags. If you're gonna try straw IMO, get a rubbermade bin, they will work out better than the bags


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Re: straw [Re: jamman]
    #5323799 - 02/21/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Those grow bags work really well with LC.


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Re: straw [Re: jamman]
    #5323801 - 02/21/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Since no one will answer his question, he obviously doesn't want your advice good or not.

For a 4LB mycobag of straw I would inject 8-10CC of spore solution. Make sure to distrobute it evenly and be ready to wait quite a while for that to colonize.

You can probably learn bulk grains and casings while your waiting for that to colonize.


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Re: straw [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5323835 - 02/21/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Straw is kind of odd. Spawn to it, and it's one of the fastest colonizers. Try innoculating a quart with a typical 2-3 ccs of LC and it takes forever.

Rahz


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Re: straw [Re: Rahz]
    #5323968 - 02/21/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

so i should probally just go with the 4 lb straw bag then and 6ccs evenly distributed thru the bag then put in closet for 2 or 3 weeks and the once its fully colonized drop the temp a bit and give it light i should have a nice flush or should i just use a 1 lb rye bag i was thinking all the extra subtrate should still make the straw flush bigger than the rye


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5323983 - 02/21/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

2 to 3 weeks would under optimal conditions and probably from LC.

if it's your first time cultivating shoot for 3-4 weeks for a 4LB bag.

more spore solution = faster colonization , until you reach a point of the law of diminishing returns - which I think is beyond 10cc point.


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5324122 - 02/21/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I've never inoculated a 4lb bag of straw, what site are you buying from? They sometimes have teks to go with their mediums. Other than that, using the better half of a syringe would probably be the way to go, trying to distribute it as well as possible.

Rahz


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Re: straw [Re: Rahz]
    #5324162 - 02/21/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i already posted the link this sounds like my first grow will be nice i totaly understand that size means more time


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Re: straw [Re: Rahz]
    #5324165 - 02/21/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

why not do both? that way you can see for yourself. experiment with whats gonna be the easiest for you , and what you have more access to locally. then from there just fine tune your style, and proceedures.


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Re: straw [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5324968 - 02/21/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well 2 things low money and enviromental factors


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5327350 - 02/22/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

im so excited i just ordered a mycobag and i already have golden teacher spores and a place to grow em


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5327360 - 02/22/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Cool, man - keep us posted on how everything is going.

Good luck :grin:


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Re: straw [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #5332509 - 02/23/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what do you think the yield would be i heard straw has low yeilds without poo ill be happy if i get more then 1 oz i should get alot more then that right dried of golden teachers injecting 4CCs in a 4lb bag of straw right (parying)


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Re: straw [Re: thedudenj]
    #5332545 - 02/23/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

:smile: straw is cool...


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Re: straw [Re: inv3rse]
    #5332562 - 02/23/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i dunno when im gona get it i ordered from mycofactory and they said its waiting for shipment o my friend is good at making things with wood so i was thinking of making a wood drying box good idea and putting it really close to a heater?


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


Edited by thedudenj (02/23/06 07:03 PM)


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