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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Boom]
#5323282 - 02/21/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ha, well I'd say that's a great thing to get out of a trip. A desire to make something of yourself, and to make money while doing it.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: dblaney]
#5323293 - 02/21/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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dblaney said: Self-consciousness is a bitch. I find that pot especially tends to bring it out in me, and sometimes more major psychedelics can too. It's difficult, but you gotta remember it's all in your mind and you must have courage. Let people see who you are, and if they don't like it, then fuck them! But 9.9/10 times, people will laugh and enjoy your authenticity.
If only I could remember that myself!
Awesome advice. I need to remember that, like all the time. Like I'm so afraid I'll say what's on my mind and people will just laugh at me or something. Then I do... and they do laugh... but in a good way
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Shroomism]
#5323300 - 02/21/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You know what was weird? When you said "You're all against me!" I thought it was hilarious and so did WoodsCall and we both laughed at you. My next thought was "oh man if he really does think we're all against him, and we just laughed, he probably sees us cackling with maniacal laughter or something." The next thing I know you're running down the stairs cackling. Good times, good times.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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there was a LOT of giggling coming from woods and shroomism.
it was infectious.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: blink]
#5323317 - 02/21/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup, Shroomism would laugh and then Woods, and then neuro and then me...and someone would ask what was funny and the honest answer was nothing and everything.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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dont worry robot. it will all become clear in time. i also find that looking for answers during the trip will often lead you back to where you started. alot of questions i had where answered as a result of my trip last sunday. and the weird this is i never even asked the questions. i remember walking to the cliffs overlooking this beach and i was standing right on the edge looking out over the pacific ocean with the clear night sky above. and the sky started raining colors, i could see the web or rainbow energy linking this world to every other star in on the horizon. and at that moment i understood everything. or rather i knew where i fit into that web. time became nothing. i could speed it up and see the cliffs melting into the water. my part in this world is simple. i came to the conclusion that people often dramaticly overthink there place in the universe. all you have to do, is live sleep and die. and if our luky you will get to see somthing like that inbetween
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: blink]
#5323321 - 02/21/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That was some funny acid. The first hour I couldn't help but laughing my ass off.. everything was just so damn funny.
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Okay, after reading this whole thread I've come to some semi-conclusions of my own. Mind you, they're just MY OPINION so take this all with a grain of salt.
I think that all of these similar feelings that were shared and the fact that you all were familiar with each other on an intellectual level, but not so much on a communal or societal or physical level led to a subconscious and small paranoia. It manifested itself and amplified differently in each person who was effected by it. IE: Shroomism's "You're all against me" thought and OMR's "Am I being too manipulative?" concern.
As far as the "Who am I?" question, well, if that's been going on for some time in many trips, I could only guess as to why. The possibilities are endless. I'm sure though that once you get a better handle on what the future holds for you, that question will not pop into your head as often, if at all.
I cannot wait for the NE2006 gathering. This thread has strengthened my desire to be a part of the goings on.
What a blast we're gonna have. There's so much I can't wait to experience and can't wait to have you guys join in the FUN.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: You know what was weird? When you said "You're all against me!" I thought it was hilarious and so did WoodsCall and we both laughed at you. My next thought was "oh man if he really does think we're all against him, and we just laughed, he probably sees us cackling with maniacal laughter or something." The next thing I know you're running down the stairs cackling. Good times, good times.
too bad noone camcordered it
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: goobler]
#5323400 - 02/21/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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goobler said:
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: You know what was weird? When you said "You're all against me!" I thought it was hilarious and so did WoodsCall and we both laughed at you. My next thought was "oh man if he really does think we're all against him, and we just laughed, he probably sees us cackling with maniacal laughter or something." The next thing I know you're running down the stairs cackling. Good times, good times.
too bad noone camcordered it [/quote
On his way down, he fell down the stairs. It was REALLY loud too.
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Are you sure I fell down the stairs? I remember jumping down the stairs. I don't think I fell. I fell out of my chair.. I remember that. Almost landed on Link heh.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Shroomism]
#5323414 - 02/21/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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double post? . . . V
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Shroomism]
#5323415 - 02/21/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ohhh man well we wer eall wondering what the loud sound was, it really sounded like you had fallen down the stairs. Jumping down them makes sense for that though.
You were in the living room when Woods did a cartwheel on the coffee table, right?
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No I missed that damnit.. but I saw pictures
simisu - yeah man that's it. I'm against myself.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Simisu]
#5323426 - 02/21/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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@shroomisem and OMR
this few posts made me feel so good and yet SO bad... you see... these are exectly my problames (only with weed... i've never had any expiriance with diffrent psychodelics but i bet all this is the weed rather then the acid... or more so anyway) i could describe my self word for word with both of your posts i wanted this epipheny by going to canada for a long trip... to loosen up and learn something about my self and the world i really wanted to be at the gathering but i knew i wouldn't be able to shake my self free of these fears and infact i reconed that going to canada while maybe a great expiriance will not solve my problame
i feel bad becouse i should've knowen all of you would understand... so i'm still here in israel "safe" in my room but i'm constantly wasting my time insted of having faith and trust and doing what i really want to do!
shroomisem becouse you're not content with your self (be it low self asteem or social fear or whatever) you hear it and see it in what other people say or do! it's amazing how the universe is crule with these synchroniseties but like dblaney said 99.99% of the time it's all in yr head. the fucked up thing is, even when you know it you simply can't disregard it. becouse even if other people don't think "against you" you your self does! belive me i know how you feel... no metter what i do i'm stuck with this feeling whenever i'm stoned in a social situation... that's why i've stopped smoking around people (and whenever i DO i'm quickly reminded why i need to stop)
so the important thing is to shake loose from these fears... to abandon the question and really accept your self and the world! not to be afraid to make mistakes (i'm sure you're both very smart individuals and are able to deal with your mistakes!!!)
lot's of good advice on this thread but no one can teach you how to except your self! cannabis and psychodelics can be very powerfull mirrors but they're still just a mirror!
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Simisu]
#5323434 - 02/21/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You already posted that.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: You already posted that.
i dunno why but insted of editing it double posted...
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I enjoy 'who am I' trips, but probably because I am always suspicious of who I may be. My last trip was a trip of this nature, defining what is Self and what is ego. I love going into the parts of my consciousness and being surprised by aspects of who I never thought I was. 
However, being confronted by the question too much can be wearying. It might mean you're looking for something, a secret to yourself.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: Simisu]
#5323595 - 02/21/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think JacquesCousteau hit the nail on the head.
I feel like i've had the most success in my quest of self when i am just in synch with myself through acceptance. acceptance of being what i want to be and doing what i want to do, whenever it comes to me. and i think it's also to important to remember that you aren't always gonna have insightful collected deep thoughs. sometimes your in limbo. sometimes you just are, sometimes you're filled with emotion and sometimes you're not. we're always in different states of mind.
Also it's really important to remember what i believe Blink said that being that you are always changing, you're constantly gonna be searching for yourself becuase you're no longer the person you once were. you've just evolved into a different one. and here is where you have to accept things. accept the fact that you don't know cuase it's ok and you don't have to know. laugh at it. stare and the sky or a blade of grass and fascinate yourself with simple things. try deep breathing exercises and put yourself in deep state of relaxation and drinking LOTS of water. rediscover the things that inspire you and exist in those moments of inspiration as long as you can.
These are things i always try to do when i wanna feel myself.unfortunately i feel like this has lead to a great deal of social isolation. BUT i feel better doing it. aware of myself rather than not aware.
One more thing i'd like to comment on is what OrganicDomino said about his job and how he realized that his fears were of his own devising. I've totally felt that before. In october i took some san pedro an mushrooms a week later during those two trips i realizedthat things in my life are attached to emotion such as people, places, objects. and when i though about the ones that made me sad i envisioned ... a road in the cosmos of my brain if you will, that's the only way i can escribe it. it was a road that lead one object to an emotion, in this case sadness. i then realized that i had the power to make that road disappear and let it lead to any other emotion. it was the most intense realization of the power i had over my mind, becuase i realized that i creat everything, my mind creates everything therefore i have control over it. or at least my perceptions of it.
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Re: I'm sick of the "Who Am I?" trip. [Re: notapillow]
#5323663 - 02/21/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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notapillow said: dont worry robot. it will all become clear in time. i also find that looking for answers during the trip will often lead you back to where you started. alot of questions i had where answered as a result of my trip last sunday. and the weird this is i never even asked the questions. i remember walking to the cliffs overlooking this beach and i was standing right on the edge looking out over the pacific ocean with the clear night sky above. and the sky started raining colors, i could see the web or rainbow energy linking this world to every other star in on the horizon. and at that moment i understood everything. or rather i knew where i fit into that web. time became nothing. i could speed it up and see the cliffs melting into the water. my part in this world is simple. i came to the conclusion that people often dramaticly overthink there place in the universe. all you have to do, is live sleep and die. and if our luky you will get to see somthing like that inbetween
this is a point of view i tend to adopt, and i had a similar experience last time i took LSD, about 2 weeks ago (though i wish i could've had an ocean to look at! wow!) when the come up started making itself known, i felt heavy and uncomfortable..my roommate said he felt the same way and wanted to go for a walk..our feelings paralleled eachother the entire night. right away we felt as though we were running from something..trying to escape something we couldn't explain. so we ended up hiking up this mountain on the edge of town as the sun went down. when we got near the top, we hiked off the trail and found a place to sit down. i leaned back and watched the stars shine and the night sky was filled with swirling colors. it became day and night countless times, and when i sat up and looked down on the valley, our town, all the moving cars and lights seemed to combine into one fluid motion. then on the horizion i saw this green glow, right where the sky met the ground on all sides, and had the feeling of being lifted from this side of consciousness...the changing of day and night started happening faster, the fluid motion in the valley became quicker and more connected, the stars swirled, i melted into the mountain we were sitting on, watched seasons change, years pass, trees die and grow, i watched my closest friends in my mind as they aged...then all of a sudden it stopped. we were still on the mountain, still looking down on the valley, but i was suddenly very aware that i was with my roommate/best friend and we were there and had both just experienced something. we looked at eachother and said "what the hell was that?", helped eachother up and hiked back down into town, feeling like we had just conquered every fear that our souls held and shed our insecurities and doubts. the rest of the trip was great, we saw some music, walked around, laughed, and had some very meaningful conversations. anyway, sorry for the long post....the point is, that question (who am i? why are we here?, etc), that "something" we are all searching for..is ultimately unknowable in this life. realizing that we are all part of a much bigger picture, and thinking not only why am i here, but why am i where i am in the world?, why do i know the people i do?..what is the meaning of our connections?...life is easy. asking these questions is hard. think about all the millions of decisions in your life that could have taken you down a different path..why is this the reality that unfolds and not another one? these are the questions i tend to get mixed up with, tripping or not. it's a heavy mind load...
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