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the_psychonaut
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TOTAL LOSS of magic
#5321629 - 02/20/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i am sure now, after my last trip that i have lost all the magic when it comes to mush. ive only tripped about 10 times (over 2 years) and only the first 3 or so were magical. after my 6th attempt to reagin the magic i decided to wait a very long time...4 months. then i ate 6 grams dried of known potent cubensis. i tripped hard, but there was no magic like in my first few trips. NONE at all. i used to wake up the next morning feeling like a whole new person. the 6g trip was just that. not an enlightening or fun trip, not an evil, or bad trip, but it just felt like i was drugged.
i dont understand y iu lost the magic? i spaced my trips out. will it ever come back?!!!???
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giz
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well mushrooms can do that, just take a break from tripping for a while perhaps. magic comes and goes and all trips are diffrent. u wouldnt worried too much about it. Mushrooms has becomed much more magical when i started to use them more rarly.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: giz]
#5321663 - 02/20/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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4 months wasnt a long enough break? thats what i dont get
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Try some different psychedelics, to get new perspective and see if they float your boat. They also could rejunvenate your appreciatation for mushies.
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Take a LONG ASS break. (6 months to a year or more)
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I don't think this is your problem. You seem to be looking to all your trips to be magical, life changing experiences. I think you perhaps got the wrong idea of tripping. Some trips are moot, and may not teach you much or change many of your ideas. That is just the way things are.
Believe me, 10 trips. And you think you are losing the magic, perhaps you need to experiment with mushrooms more. 10 times is hardly enough to say you have "lost the magic." Hell, I would say you are just starting to begin your relationship with the mushroom. You may not see it that way, but after more trips you will.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mecreateme]
#5321777 - 02/20/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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maybe you should just move away from mushrooms and find something else that interest you?
i think a total change of envrionment is what's probably needed though. different people, different surroundings, different mindset and it will all click, maybe. a new perspective on what is tripping is whats needed. not really something you are consciously in control of though. time....
good luck, but it will happen eventually...
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Snip]
#5322793 - 02/21/06 02:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic. This is frightening.
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I'm coming down off of a trip right now. I'm feeling the same way you are in a way. The first trip I had was so unbelievable. I think it all has to do with the setting. Mushrooms in and of themselves are enough to be magical, but depending on where you are and who you are with, the experience you're seeking is hit or miss.
Try clearing your mind completely before you trip and losing all your expectations.
I don't know if any of what i just typed makes sense, but good vibes to you anyway.
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4 months isn't really that long a time. I agree with EllemyshShade, take an extended break. You still remember strongly how you felt in your previous trips (not that you'll ever forget, but its still pretty fresh.)
You also seem to have some very definite expectations about where you're going to end up (or want to anyway) on your trips. Perhaps, in part, the expectations are holding you back. You have to be content with what the shrooms will offer you at any given time.
Something else to consider is changing your routine for tripping (if you have one.) Try a different setting. Make it more ritualized. Maybe fast the day before (you might want to then eat something light an hour or two before partaking.)
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beatnicknick said: This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic. This is frightening.
marijuana will never lose its magic...i think u just dont appreciate the drugs ur using.
Oh and if u got bored of weed....i dont think mushrooms are a very good substitute.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Weeded420]
#5323334 - 02/21/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Weeded420 said:
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beatnicknick said: This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic. This is frightening.
marijuana will never lose its magic...i think u just dont appreciate the drugs ur using.
Oh and if u got bored of weed....i dont think mushrooms are a very good substitute.
marijuana loses its magic very quickly if you start using it excessively, taking a break will deffinitely help you appreciate it more...
As for the mush, it happense... my first trip was amazing, infact I even said "the only word that could possibly describe this experience is "magic"" second then around the 3rd-4th trip (3rd trip was done in a setting that turned out to be not as good of an idea as I thought, but I held rode it through and still managed to squeeze every bit of possitivity out of the trip as I could, afterwards though the trips really started to seem less special. Keep in mind this is when I was using a lot (like once every week or two, this ended pretty quickly). Anyways, it's also been about 4 months now since my last trip (not counting the one a few days ago, which is kind of what I'm going to be reffering to in a couple minutes) and yeah, my last trip (yup, there's the refference :p) was basically me sober feeling like there was a big empty space inside my head, as if there was a ballooon inflated inside my brain and all my thoughts, etc were being pressed up against the sides of my brain... It wasn't painful, and I didn't get annoyed by it, but there was absolutely no magic to the trip at all... It was basically "this is me, I am here, thinking isn't really working like it should be, but I feel completely normal). It just happense... I had been thinking back to my first trip earlier that day, remembering the magical feeling, perhaps I unknowingly just got caught up in trying to achieve that magical feeling again that I almost missed the whole trip. There were times when it was deffinitely clear that I was tripping, but well, you get what I'm saying.... My only advice is maybe try to change your mindset to more along the lines of "Anything I get at all is better than what would have probably been happening without them... I'm paying for an experience and not for the actual fungus itself" I find that if you look at things like that, you'll never get pissed about weak shrooms, and you'll never be upset with the trip you're having, and in my experience weak shrooms have always exploded in my face resulting in a trip that just completely leaves me lying motionless for a few hours.
And yeah, mushrooms are not a weed substitute, get that idea out of your head because it'll only end badly
Edited by StickyWater (02/21/06 09:26 AM)
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The magic is all in you, man. So maybe you have temporarily lost "your magic", but don't blame it on marijuana or the shrooms! I think you have the wrong mindset and maybe need to reevaluate your use. Try to think- what were mushrooms to you those first 3 times? I'm sure they've become something different in your mind - which would naturally bring on "less magical" trips. Good luck, though.
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Weeded420
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i smoke weed multiple times a day and all its magic is still there...occasionally i take a break to kill my high tolerance to it.
I havnt smoked in like 4 days bcuz of this fukn flu...and i know when i light up my next blunt, im going to be ripped.
its all in your head...although mushies work in mysterious ways.
theres been times where ive eaten an 8th of the same cubensis i tripped off of over 20 times and had a very mild trip with the occasional CEVs but mostly a body high/stone...so iono what ur problem is...ever try a solo trip, or a trip with a loved one such as a brother of a girlfriend?
with MDMA i dont really have a good roll unless im with my girl or a close friend. WHich led me to stop rollin for at least 6 months
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Weeded420]
#5323378 - 02/21/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Weeded... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5319018
I think taking time away from anything, and coming back into whatever it may be with a clear and open mind, is beneficial. Magic or no magic, you need to freshen your head. I can't stand when people say the only way to cure a bad trip is a good one - maybe in completely extenuating circumstances, but certainly not as a rule of thumb. Blaze on though, brotha.
Edited by AlwaysFlowin (02/21/06 09:54 AM)
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i smoke bud like every 30 minutes or so from wake to crash. this has been my routine for 9 years, no more than a few days off at a time, and that shit is pretty rare. i definately feel a loss with mj. i've actually been contemplating(for the last 3 years)taking a long while off, but can't seem to summon the willpower. i quit smoking cigarettes last year after 12 years of it. so much easier than trying to let go of mj to me. anyway, i still love mj, but i think we really need some time apart. if only she thought the same....
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i think you're expecting too much out of your mushrooms.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: coda]
#5323653 - 02/21/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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it's just a drug, whether or not its effects are "magical" depends on YOUR definition of magical.
And mycoprog, you seriously smoke weed every half hour? WTF?
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For me the most magic was on my 90th trip.
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Honestly, could you define this "magic" you speak of. I think you have the wrong idea about it.
As other posters have said, perhaps you need to change your life or your setting. Shrooms can sometimes show you things about your life that are not good and that you would probably want to change. Sadly, habit gets to most of us and we regain those old things we wanted to change as soon as the trip is over.
Oh yeah, and if you really think you have TOTAL LOSS of magic, then eat ten grams and get back to us on the magic part.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mecreateme]
#5323842 - 02/21/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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u need to see what it is like to completley lose ur ego its very magical...from my research there is a difference between ego loss and ego death, and i would say i never experienced ego death...
complete loss of thinkin about yourself, you cease to exist and blend into all and all is one. The comprehension of the word "I" no longer is with you but more of a us or all, i cant really explain it, but it is indeed magical.
try to become friendly with lucy and she will show you what magic is about. you will learn to apreciate what you get out of a trip.
I find that trippin in itself is magical no matter how mild, or how intense. Once i can say im tripping, thats all that is needed.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: jmg5]
#5324171 - 02/21/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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jmg5 said: it's just a drug, whether or not its effects are "magical" depends on YOUR definition of magical.
And mycoprog, you seriously smoke weed every half hour? WTF?
yes. like cigarettes. -n-
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5324240 - 02/21/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can definitely relate to this topic. I've tripped 11 times over a year. The first two were very light trips, but shown me what true relaxation feels like (I'd never done any other drugs before). The third let my imagination run more freely and playfully, and combining with weed shown me truely powerful psychodelic effects. The 4th trip was just intense, out of this world. Possibly a life changing experience. My 5th trip was less so, and things have gone down hill since then. Now my trips tend to be just nice and calm, or very sleepy feeling.
I attribute this to many things; mostly my set and setting. My first trips occurred whilst I was on placement in a foreign country, whilst my later trips occurred after I returned to university. I think that tripping will produce better results once I've finished university.
Maybe there is also something in your life that has changed and could be affecting your trips?
I firmly believe that tripping should is best when you are feeling at your very best, like when something really positive has just happened in your life. Of course, the discovery of mushrooms is, in itself, usually a positive event in a person's life, but it's by no means the only one.
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You cannot expect your relationship to mushrooms to remain the same forever. It's something you have to work at. When you say "magic" I tend to think you're referring to the amazing feeling of awe from sensory expansion, beauty in everything... Perhaps to get this back, you should try a different setting. Try tripping alone in a safe woods on a beautiful spring day. Try something new! New people, or alone, if you've never done that. Try a different species even! I recommend Panaeolus Subbalteatus.
The other explanation is that the mushrooms haven't let you down, but that you in fact have not evolved with the mushrooms. It sounds like you are really dedicated to making this work, so try reading what others have said about tripping and understanding reality: ie. Mckenna, Leary, shamans, Buddhist and other religious texts, everyone here on the shroomery!... Try to internalize what you're shown during trips. Turn the magic into understanding. It's a slow process, not the kind of learning that we're used to in the West, but one that is limitless. If you're getting bogged down in the familiar, realize that what's familiar is you, and you're not the whole picture.
But, I wouldn't worry too much. I've had the feeling that I couldn't agree with psychedelics any more, but then I had the most amazing trip and that realy pulled me out. I'm pretty sure that you'll eventually get back on track.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: nycomyco]
#5324534 - 02/21/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It only gets more intense the more I take it. I dont know anything about this subject besides my experiences(well over 30 trips on mushrooms). I think the universe likes me.
One day after is another story, but for me it just gets better and better. Ive even went totally nuts on a related substance for the better. Not violent or too strange for my liking, just totally out of this fucking world. This was all helped along by years of high dose LSD, and other hallucinogens. There was never a moment when I thought that it was getting less interesting. Infact, it was very much the opposite.
Edited by stemmer (02/21/06 03:44 PM)
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5324844 - 02/21/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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jmg5 said: it's just a drug, whether or not its effects are "magical" depends on YOUR definition of magical.
And mycoprog, you seriously smoke weed every half hour? WTF?
yes. like cigarettes. -n-
I guess it's not that unbelievable. If you can afford it more power to ya.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: jmg5]
#5325726 - 02/21/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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jmg5 said:
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mycoprog said:
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jmg5 said: it's just a drug, whether or not its effects are "magical" depends on YOUR definition of magical.
And mycoprog, you seriously smoke weed every half hour? WTF?
yes. like cigarettes. -n-
I guess it's not that unbelievable. If you can afford it more power to ya.
peace
well i can't afford it but i do it anyway. i need some time off though, im too lazy. -n-
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5325762 - 02/21/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it and "we" have abilities that dont abide by the confines we know of as reality. Im a skeptic at heart, but I know how far this thing can go. I will never touch another hallucinogen again becuase of it. Its not that it scared me as much as the teacher became present every time after many experiences. These drugs are the closest anyone can get to real magic. Maybe thats why some refer to it as such.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5325858 - 02/21/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i smoke bud like every 30 minutes or so from wake to crash. this has been my routine for 9 years, no more than a few days off at a time, and that shit is pretty rare.
I'm impressed, disgusted, someewhat jealous, and wondering if I'd be physically able to do that all at the same time... nicely done :p
Edited by StickyWater (02/21/06 08:35 PM)
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: StickyWater]
#5325983 - 02/21/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i smoke bud like every 30 minutes or so from wake to crash. this has been my routine for 9 years, no more than a few days off at a time, and that shit is pretty rare.
I'm impressed, disgusted, someewhat jealous, and wondering if I'd be physically able to do that all at the same time... nicely done :p
its not all that bad..i only go through like an oz. or two a week. i primarily smoke out of bongs, gravity to be exact. i feel it conserves more while at the same time blowing my fucking head off. yeah im a pothead.

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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5326239 - 02/21/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i smoke bud like every 30 minutes or so from wake to crash. this has been my routine for 9 years, no more than a few days off at a time, and that shit is pretty rare.
I'm impressed, disgusted, someewhat jealous, and wondering if I'd be physically able to do that all at the same time... nicely done :p
its not all that bad..i only go through like an oz. or two a week. i primarily smoke out of bongs, gravity to be exact. i feel it conserves more while at the same time blowing my fucking head off. yeah im a pothead.

check out my new piece:
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Nice bong 
I know that it's not THAT bad... back in the summer I was going through a good 2-3g's a day, even now it's not uncommon for me to come home, sit back, and just smoke until I can't stay awake any longer. This usually consists of a few innitial bowls just to get going, then another bowl every time I feel like it (between 30-60 minutes, and I still don't let it interfere with my life, cause I'm just awsome that way) I also used a bong until I got a vaporizer (we share a special bond... it's hard for others to understand) but I still like my bong, for it has served me well... originally bought it for $35 second hand, glass ice bongs, got it half price, bowl included, it's a nice little semi-portable piece, small, but it does the trick... The ice also helps whenever I get my hands on some hash... I'm just impressed you haven't quit out of sympathy for your throat after smoking that much that long... I know that after last summer I took about a month off smoking because every breath of air that wasn't fresh was like trying to swallow a cheese grater
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mycoprog]
#5326244 - 02/21/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bringing this back to topic, I believe Hunter Thompson said something to the effect of, "Psychedelics aren't always about spirituality, sometimes you're just plain fucked up."
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: DIRTYMAN]
#5326272 - 02/21/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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This also happened to me recently off 3 grams, which was my first time in a while goin above 2. Oddly it wasnt a significant "lovey" experience like my last one. It was almost boring, like I didnt take enough. (if I had more I definently would have) I didnt really fail to freak out, I just kind of felt like I was under the dim light of heaven, which is pretty depressing. I began to see under my skin, and all the images I saw on my computer had something biological under it. I didnt give a fuck, I fell asleep somehow. Woke up the next day thinkin if I paid for it, I would not have been satisfied. The trips I had prior to the dull experience were very life changing and philisophical, this one was just a strange mystery that some how didnt amuse me.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Jon]
#5326293 - 02/21/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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3 grams equals boring. hmmmmm
so that would make 2 grams less than a level 2 right?
The whole level thing throws people off for certain. Its your brain, dont let it glide you along while you question some bullshit levels of a trip. If you keep doing that, it will only be harder to reach a level 5,(a number some ass gave for a selfless trip where you cant see your hand in front of your face).
The whole levels thing throws people off if you ask me.
Edited by stemmer (02/21/06 10:25 PM)
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: stemmer]
#5326318 - 02/21/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If shrooms get boring to you like that, you have learned nothing from your previous trips, or with hesitation, I think, you should try a big fat dose of acid. Then you might stop thinking that shrooms just get less interesting over time.
Or better yet, ayahuasca would shut you the hell up. If 2 grams doesnt fascilitate rather extreem changes in cognition and your vision, even audio, I dont think you have any idea what your looking for and likely never will, even If you become scared shitless by some massive dose. Thats just my opinion.
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: stemmer]
#5328248 - 02/22/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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mecreateme i am literally going to take your advice about 6 months from now. if i get other feelings other than visuals then you will proove me wrong
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*sigh* dosing 10g's to regain a feeling that your disappointed about not getting... Anyone else see this ending badly?
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Prove what, huh? You lost me buddy. And the ten gram thing was more as a joke, but if you think you need it go for it. Don't take it over a stupid thing like proving anything. Take it for yourself, and yourself only. Also don't be around anybody that will freak out(90% of all people you know, trippers included) when they see you acting so strange.
And do you not already understand about preconceptions while going into a trip? You do know it is influenced by what you think or may not think will happen. That is why it is easier to flow through the trip than try and get somewhere while on one, or achieve "magic" that you speak of. If it is going to come, it will, if not , it won't.
Also, I would step up a little to like seven, eight, or nine grams first. Hell sometimes, an eighth can be equal to those high doses. Really depends on the shrooms. They are all variable. So be careful in the dosage area. If anything, I would reccomend playing around with different doses, not just going for as high of one as you can. Shrooms are not like medicine in that you can take desired amount to achieve certain effect.
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Mushroom_Mike
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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: StickyWater]
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i know exactly what you are talking about. and i will say that it comes back it isnt gone forever. it is definitely all about SET AND SETTING. that is key. your mood is key. do not 'expect' anything, because then you will only set yourself up for disappointment.
Do not think to yourself "i wont feel any magic " because that right there is what i mean by setting yourself up for disappointment. Instead, think of that magic before you nibble the shrooms and have your mind set on that. This is simply preparing your mind to drift to that awesome vibe you want to be feeling. Whats the difference? well one you just expect, and the other you are actually preparing the mind.
i hope this works for you if you give it a try. but always remember, it is your state of mind. so focus on what you want to feel, it helps a great deal.
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the_psychonaut
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ok, first thing im going to say is i dont do any drugs for anybody else but myself, especially to proove anything to somebody!
i always trip alone, and i said what i said, but what i really ment it like i need to up the dose dramaticly, because ive gradually went up from 1.5, and have always gone up each time. i think now it may be because i only slightly upped it each time, so i could not really tell the difference between my doses in the long run. i really want to try a deprivation tank, but i cant find a place that has one, and cant afford one :X
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