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Offlinethe_psychonaut
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TOTAL LOSS of magic
    #5321629 - 02/20/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i am sure now, after my last trip that i have lost all the magic when it comes to mush. ive only tripped about 10 times (over 2 years) and only the first 3 or so were magical. after my 6th attempt to reagin the magic i decided to wait a very long time...4 months. then i ate 6 grams dried of known potent cubensis. i tripped hard, but there was no magic like in my first few trips. NONE at all. i used to wake up the next morning feeling like a whole new person. the 6g trip was just that. not an enlightening or fun trip, not an evil, or bad trip, but it just felt like i was drugged.


i dont understand y iu lost the magic? i spaced my trips out. will it ever come back?!!!???


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5321651 - 02/20/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well mushrooms can do that, just take a break from tripping for a while perhaps. magic comes and goes and all trips are diffrent. u wouldnt worried too much about it. Mushrooms has becomed much more magical when i started to use them more rarly.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: giz]
    #5321663 - 02/20/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

4 months wasnt a long enough break? thats what i dont get


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5321669 - 02/20/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Try some different psychedelics, to get new perspective and see if they float your boat. They also could rejunvenate your appreciatation for mushies.

OR

Take a LONG ASS break. (6 months to a year or more)


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5321671 - 02/20/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think this is your problem. You seem to be looking to all your trips to be magical, life changing experiences. I think you perhaps got the wrong idea of tripping. Some trips are moot, and may not teach you much or change many of your ideas. That is just the way things are.

Believe me, 10 trips. And you think you are losing the magic, perhaps you need to experiment with mushrooms more. 10 times is hardly enough to say you have "lost the magic." Hell, I would say you are just starting to begin your relationship with the mushroom. You may not see it that way, but after more trips you will.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mecreateme]
    #5321777 - 02/20/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

maybe you should just move away from mushrooms and find something else that interest you?

i think a total change of envrionment is what's probably needed though. different people, different surroundings, different mindset and it will all click, maybe. a new perspective on what is tripping is whats needed. not really something you are consciously in control of though. time....

good luck, but it will happen eventually...


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Snip]
    #5322793 - 02/21/06 02:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic. This is frightening.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5322808 - 02/21/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm coming down off of a trip right now. I'm feeling the same way you are in a way. The first trip I had was so unbelievable. I think it all has to do with the setting. Mushrooms in and of themselves are enough to be magical, but depending on where you are and who you are with, the experience you're seeking is hit or miss.

Try clearing your mind completely before you trip and losing all your expectations.

I don't know if any of what i just typed makes sense, but good vibes to you anyway.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5323250 - 02/21/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

4 months isn't really that long a time. I agree with EllemyshShade, take an extended break. You still remember strongly how you felt in your previous trips (not that you'll ever forget, but its still pretty fresh.)

You also seem to have some very definite expectations about where you're going to end up (or want to anyway) on your trips. Perhaps, in part, the expectations are holding you back. You have to be content with what the shrooms will offer you at any given time.

Something else to consider is changing your routine for tripping (if you have one.) Try a different setting. Make it more ritualized. Maybe fast the day before (you might want to then eat something light an hour or two before partaking.)

Good luck!


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5323285 - 02/21/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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beatnicknick said:
This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic.  This is frightening.




marijuana will never lose its magic...i think u just dont appreciate the drugs ur using.

Oh and if u got bored of weed....i dont think mushrooms are a very good substitute. :mushroom2: :stoned: :rasta:


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Weeded420]
    #5323334 - 02/21/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Weeded420 said:
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beatnicknick said:
This scares me because both my first two trips were magical and completely changed my life (positiveley) but I only started using shrooms because marijuana lost its magic.  This is frightening.




marijuana will never lose its magic...i think u just dont appreciate the drugs ur using.

Oh and if u got bored of weed....i dont think mushrooms are a very good substitute. :mushroom2: :stoned: :rasta:




marijuana loses its magic very quickly if you start using it excessively, taking a break will deffinitely help you appreciate it more...

As for the mush, it happense... my first trip was amazing, infact I even said "the only word that could possibly describe this experience is "magic"" second then around the 3rd-4th trip (3rd trip was done in a setting that turned out to be not as good of an idea as I thought, but I held rode it through and still managed to squeeze every bit of possitivity out of the trip as I could, afterwards though the trips really started to seem less special. Keep in mind this is when I was using a lot (like once every week or two, this ended pretty quickly). Anyways, it's also been about 4 months now since my last trip (not counting the one a few days ago, which is kind of what I'm going to be reffering to in a couple minutes) and yeah, my last trip (yup, there's the refference :p) was basically me sober feeling like there was a big empty space inside my head, as if there was a ballooon inflated inside my brain and all my thoughts, etc were being pressed up against the sides of my brain... It wasn't painful, and I didn't get annoyed by it, but there was absolutely no magic to the trip at all... It was basically "this is me, I am here, thinking isn't really working like it should be, but I feel completely normal). It just happense... I had been thinking back to my first trip earlier that day, remembering the magical feeling, perhaps I unknowingly just got caught up in trying to achieve that magical feeling again that I almost missed the whole trip. There were times when it was deffinitely clear that I was tripping, but well, you get what I'm saying.... My only advice is maybe try to change your mindset to more along the lines of
"Anything I get at all is better than what would have probably been happening without them... I'm paying for an experience and not for the actual fungus itself" I find that if you look at things like that, you'll never get pissed about weak shrooms, and you'll never be upset with the trip you're having, and in my experience weak shrooms have always exploded in my face resulting in a trip that just completely leaves me lying motionless for a few hours.

And yeah, mushrooms are not a weed substitute, get that idea out of your head because it'll only end badly


Edited by StickyWater (02/21/06 09:26 AM)


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5323335 - 02/21/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The magic is all in you, man. So maybe you have temporarily lost "your magic", but don't blame it on marijuana or the shrooms! I think you have the wrong mindset and maybe need to reevaluate your use. Try to think- what were mushrooms to you those first 3 times? I'm sure they've become something different in your mind - which would naturally bring on "less magical" trips. Good luck, though.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5323355 - 02/21/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i smoke weed multiple times a day and all its magic is still there...occasionally i take a break to kill my high tolerance to it.

I havnt smoked in like 4 days bcuz of this fukn flu...and i know when i light up my next blunt, im going to be ripped.

its all in your head...although mushies work in mysterious ways.

theres been times where ive eaten an 8th of the same cubensis i tripped off of over 20 times and had a very mild trip with the occasional CEVs but mostly a body high/stone...so iono what ur problem is...ever try a solo trip, or a trip with a loved one such as a brother of a girlfriend?

with MDMA i dont really have a good roll unless im with my girl or a close friend. WHich led me to stop rollin for at least 6 months


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: Weeded420]
    #5323378 - 02/21/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Weeded... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5319018

I think taking time away from anything, and coming back into whatever it may be with a clear and open mind, is beneficial. Magic or no magic, you need to freshen your head. I can't stand when people say the only way to cure a bad trip is a good one - maybe in completely extenuating circumstances, but certainly not as a rule of thumb. Blaze on though, brotha.


Edited by AlwaysFlowin (02/21/06 09:54 AM)


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5323421 - 02/21/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i smoke bud like every 30 minutes or so from wake to crash. this has been my routine for 9 years, no more than a few days off at a time, and that shit is pretty rare. i definately feel a loss with mj. i've actually been contemplating(for the last 3 years)taking a long while off, but can't seem to summon the willpower. i quit smoking cigarettes last year after 12 years of it. so much easier than trying to let go of mj to me. anyway, i still love mj, but i think we really need some time apart. if only she thought the same....

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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5323448 - 02/21/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i think you're expecting too much out of your mushrooms.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: coda]
    #5323653 - 02/21/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it's just a drug, whether or not its effects are "magical" depends on YOUR definition of magical.

And mycoprog, you seriously smoke weed every half hour? WTF?


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5323721 - 02/21/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

For me the most magic was on my 90th trip.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5323788 - 02/21/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly, could you define this "magic" you speak of. I think you have the wrong idea about it.

As other posters have said, perhaps you need to change your life or your setting. Shrooms can sometimes show you things about your life that are not good and that you would probably want to change. Sadly, habit gets to most of us and we regain those old things we wanted to change as soon as the trip is over.

Oh yeah, and if you really think you have TOTAL LOSS of magic, then eat ten grams and get back to us on the magic part.


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Re: TOTAL LOSS of magic [Re: mecreateme]
    #5323842 - 02/21/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

u need to see what it is like to completley lose ur ego its very magical...from my research there is a difference between ego loss and ego death, and i would say i never experienced ego death...

complete loss of thinkin about yourself, you cease to exist and blend into all and all is one. The comprehension of the word "I" no longer is with you but more of a us or all, i cant really explain it, but it is indeed magical.

try to become friendly with lucy and she will show you what magic is about. you will learn to apreciate what you get out of a trip.

I find that trippin in itself is magical no matter how mild, or how intense. Once i can say im tripping, thats all that is needed.


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