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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineSneezingPenis
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Re: There is no evil [Re: blaze2]
    #5328480 - 02/22/06 04:02 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, but how is that still evil? you think the animal just wanted to maliciously attack the trainer to see what he tasted like?

I think as long as there is a reason, it cannot be evil.

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Re: There is no evil [Re: blaze2]
    #5328511 - 02/22/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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blaze2 said:
Is the universe perfect? nope, so its not in balance.





Yeah, the universe is perfect.

But there is evil in the world of humans.
Is it a coincidence that only humans cause evil? Hitler killing millions of jews was evil. If an asteroid struck the earth it would not be evil.
Just because there is no universal absolute morality, and evil is relative and contextual doesn't mean evil isn't real. Evil is one of those things that humans as social animals define. It helps us maintain our order. We have a sense for evil, it allows us to both perceive evil and therefore attack it to return our own system to balance.

So I guess in a sense I agree with you. Although I differentiate between the human world and the universe itself. I think ultimately the concept of evil is an evolutionary tool for humans. That doesn't make it any less real, is just makes it not universal.


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Re: There is no evil [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5328677 - 02/22/06 05:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The only definition of evil that I can think of would be something which is counter productive or hindering your own survival.

Sure, we can say that in terms defined by society there is an evil.... yeah from that persective, it would exist, but in a REAL sense (universally) there is no such thing.

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Re: There is no evil [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5328760 - 02/22/06 05:40 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

evil is a concept invented by humans


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Re: There is no evil [Re: eligal]
    #5330623 - 02/23/06 05:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Evil is an attitude that gets you laid.

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Re: There is no evil [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5331411 - 02/23/06 12:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

A human, intentionally doing something, always is evil for some others...but as long that it does not physically hurt people, it is not sort of 'prime evil' :smile:
yes, evil is a conscious concept, but it mirrors (in) reality (existence) and as soon as it physically hurts others, it gets real. As long that it hurts psychically, it is in some kind of state of discussion or ignorance and everyone can get along with it. As soon as it gets real, there is something to do and to be done, so it get's real real :wink:
So what was first. The concept or the fact ?


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Re: There is no evil [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5331566 - 02/23/06 12:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Lakefingers said:
Evil is an attitude that gets you laid.




i wish that were true...
im the evilest muth around and havent gotten laid in ages...
:foreheadslap:


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Re: There is no evil [Re: eligal]
    #5333893 - 02/24/06 01:31 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

there is evil, the concept of evil has proven itself a useful for me. i don't really desire to argue about it or try to explain it but i just want to make it clear that at least from a certain standpoint evil DOES exist.

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Re: There is no evil [Re: eligal]
    #5333910 - 02/24/06 01:44 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

They say that people that don't get much when they're young are real swingers when they retire. It's all good :smile:

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Re: There is no evil [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5333925 - 02/24/06 02:01 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

goats dont really turn me on
dolphins tho...

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Re: There is no evil [Re: fresh313]
    #5333966 - 02/24/06 02:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I guess Pan is just a good old paraphiliac without any paraphilia.

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