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jenerikcairet
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mushroom pills
#5320468 - 02/20/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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apparently a kid i know is selling mushroom pills, and allegedly its not just crushed up boomers thrown in capsules, its an extract somehow...is this possible?
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Grapefruity
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Well maybe they are psilocybin pills.
Or just an rc hes tryin to pass off as mushies :p
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I wouldnt trust "a kid you know" to have any kind of extract.
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jenerikcairet
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no, he wouldnt try to intentionally sell me an rc but he might have been sold one...
so psiolocybin can be extracted for pills(he said it was gooey on the inside)
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giz
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it is possible
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jenerikcairet
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its not just a kid i know, hes a fairly good friend and i know him well enough to trust his intentions, but not his source's intentions...
hes a hippie kid who will only smoke headie nuggets and is not into lying/tricking/ripping people off and especialyl not into compromising safety.
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jenerikcairet
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are there any sites or any info here on how this is done?
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It isn't generally done. Psilocybin/psilocin is really unstable when extracted. Extracts are not generally sold.
Now and then people are sold 4-ho-dipt as psilocybin pills. This stuff turns from crystal to brown gunk once it meets oxygen. My money is completely on 4-ho-dipt. And I'm sure your buddy has the best intentions, it's the higher sources that are damned.
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I have done it several times quite easily and it does work. You obviously trust your friend, does he feel the same way about his source? Has anyone else tried it yet that you can ask? The extractions are effected hugely by moisture if not kept in a moisture free environment. If it looks melted on the inside it has likely lost its potency.
Good luck!
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elgr said: It isn't generally done. Psilocybin/psilocin is really unstable when extracted. Extracts are not generally sold.
Now and then people are sold 4-ho-dipt as psilocybin pills. This stuff turns from crystal to brown gunk once it meets oxygen. My money is completely on 4-ho-dipt. And I'm sure your buddy has the best intentions, it's the higher sources that are damned.
i aggree with elgr, its almost positivly some RC if its not powdered cubes. be careful dude.
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here is a tech on alcohol extractions PF Tech
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jenerikcairet
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: lovepalace]
#5320685 - 02/20/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah he said he took one and had a pretty good mild trip with slight trails, this is when i started suspecting it could be a RC because i usualyl dont get trails with just a mild trip it usually is the beginning of a wild trip when i start to get trails...so idk...i think im going to avoid it...
although they did it and are still alive , haha maybe i should just take whatever RC it is and gow ith it...
jk...
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Or maybe they are very potent mushrooms? a half gram of azures or cyanesence would definetly rock the boat just for one pill.
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: Or maybe they are very potent mushrooms? a half gram of azures or cyanesence would definetly rock the boat just for one pill.
that really depends on where he is. If he aint in norcali, the PNW, or southwestern canada. I would highly doubt its cyans or azures.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5320742 - 02/20/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just cuz it isn't naturally occurring doesn't mean that human intervention hasn't brought them elsewhere.
But i get what you are saying. Plus it read its a brown goo in the pill. I missed that the first time. That rules out ground up mushrooms.
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I've seen people around here trying to sell off 2ci as synthetic mushrooms...lol crazy.
However I dont really know what "brown goo" would be...
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Corporal Kielbasa

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jenerikcairet said: no, he wouldnt try to intentionally sell me an rc but he might have been sold one...
so psiolocybin can be extracted for pills(he said it was gooey on the inside)
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: dedjam]
#5320803 - 02/20/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phenethylamines like 2c-i don't turn to goo the way these synthetic tryptamines do. My money is still on 4-ho-dipt, or perhaps 4-acetoxy-mipt. It too becomes dark brown I believe, shortly after being exposed to the air.
People sell 4-ho-dipt as psilocybin because of the close chemical relationship (4-ho-dmt).
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giz
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4 ace mipt turns to gray goo in contact with air but it doesnt affect tje quality. 4 ace mipt is by far one of the best RC availble.
Edited by giz (02/20/06 05:34 PM)
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sui
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: Just cuz it isn't naturally occurring doesn't mean that human intervention hasn't brought them elsewhere.
But i get what you are saying. Plus it read its a brown goo in the pill. I missed that the first time. That rules out ground up mushrooms.
yes but, really i would assume if someone spent the time to make an outdoor patch, then waited a year for it too fruit i would think it would be for personal use. Thats too much work. Cubes are sooooo much easier to grow and it only takes a fraction of the time.
Im not saying immpossible just very very unlikely.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5320850 - 02/20/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I disagree strongly in cubes beein easier to cultivate than (any) woodlovers. you spawn and make outdoor beds and i have had azures coming back year after year.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5320853 - 02/20/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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*bites tounge* well wurth the ten miutes to plant and the 10 hours to pick
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jenerikcairet
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he didnt say anything about the color of the goo, so i dont know if its brown or not...
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sui
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ok ok, if its that easy maybe i should get on a transplant from one of my friscosa patches.........
but anyway, its still unlikely.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5320947 - 02/20/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well wurth it! as long as you water every couple weeks. Or just water it crazy in the fall.
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sui
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5320976 - 02/20/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you got me all fired up man, i can just see em now Ive been wanting to get a bunch of good prints of this species. It would have to be gorilla though, thats the only problem.
well i guess in some ways thats actually safer.
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Edited by sui (02/20/06 06:08 PM)
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giz
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5321011 - 02/20/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i can donate you a azures print if you wish, want nothing in return
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sui
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: giz]
#5321077 - 02/20/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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giz said: i can donate you a azures print if you wish, want nothing in return
That would rock so hardcore dude. Ill send ya a Friscosa print when they fruit.
since were on Azures, a rather large patch was found in the East Bay Area this season. It was pretty awesome, i had heard of a report of one from a year or two ago, but they couldt tell if it was cultivated or not.
This one sure seems to be wild.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: sui]
#5321118 - 02/20/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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im just glad i can be of help,. pm me your addy then azures is really potent, i remember my first azures, i was sitting in my bed, ate one .. i spent a long time after that one mushroom in that mushroom bed stickin my fingers in the dirt and was completly disconnected for a loong time -. good times.
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Re: mushroom pills [Re: giz]
#5321496 - 02/20/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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As was mentioned earlier I would really put my money on these pills containing 4-HO-DiPT. I'm basing this on the report of effects that your friend provided, description of substance being brown and gooey, and finally of course, loads of speculation. 4-HO-DiPT certainly could be presented as a "mushroom pill" as the chemicals are structurally somewhat similar, the effects are quite distinct however. 4-HO-DiPT will rapidly oxidize into brown goo making it very difficult and annoying to work with.
So, here's where my speculation begins. The doses listed on erowid for 4-HO-DiPT are really very much on the low end. The most likely scenario I can think of is that random college student X buys some 4-HO-DiPT from some chemical supplier, sees the dosages on erowid, capsules it up and distributes it as a "mushroom pill". The pills only produce mild effects as reported by your source because the dose is too low (and/or chemical has degraded in presence of oxygen/light/time/who knows). Does anyone you know own a milligram scale? Try and weigh the capsules, figure out how much is actually in there.
The effects of 4-HO-DiPT are really worth trying if you are indeed interested, very different from mushrooms, still a very worthwhile experience. For me (and those who have experimented with me) I've found the substance to be very visual without much mental activity or body load. I would describe the head feeling as being empty headed but at the same time deep thinking is possible. The visuals can turn your entire world into a painting, every inch of your visual field has something going on. Difficult to discern the size of objects relative to each other, birds seem to stand out from the sky, and (for me) most interestingly an effect similar to that of a car pulling up behind you with its headlights on, the area in front of you and around you will illuminate with green or purple light, very, very fun effect.
I would just recommend rolling up your sleeves and eating two of the capsules and seeing where it takes you but alas no quality control in the illicit drugs business, one pill could be much heavier than another and past a certain point the 4-HO series of RC's become VERY intense. (My friend literally forgot who he was, couldn't remember his own name).
If I were you I might pass on these capsules in particular unless I had an accurate milligram scale on hand. I would not pass on the 4-HO series though, the effects are unique and beautiful. See if you can get your hands on some 4-HO-MiPT (3-[2-(diethylamino)ethyl]-4-indolol HCL), it produces very nearly the same effects as the DiPT and is much more stable in the presence of oxygen, doesn't form the goo that the DiPT does. It does start life as a white powder and degrades to a brownish color, but doesn't goo up on you. I think the experience is well worth the effort of tracking down the chemical.
So in conclusion, I thoroughly recommend the substance, but perhaps not under these circumstances. Then again, it could be something else entirely inside those capsules, I guess only the person who made them knows for sure.
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I've also read that 4-Acetoxy-DiPT is much more stable, and reluctant to form goo. Effects seem to be quite simillar, though a longer duration. <- Speculation.
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I've had something like that but in my case it was different. A friend of mine told me about this "Shrooms of the Future" which was some designer Tryptamine. I think it might be 4-ho-dipt but im not sure, all i know is it was one of the most visual trips I've ever had.
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nihilistism said: "Shrooms of the Future"
In my book there will never be anything to substitute shrooms...future or not.
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