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thedudenj
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5-Meo-DMT source
#5319911 - 02/20/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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whats the best source to extract 5-Meo-DMT DMT isnt deep enough i want the light!!!
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5320152 - 02/20/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dose 3 hits of acid, a quarter oz of liberty caps, and snort some DMT. Then take a hit of 40x salvia, you'll see some light
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Abrainspot]
#5320162 - 02/20/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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While the paramedics and/or doctors in the psychiatric ward check his pupils for dialation?
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giz
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Abrainspot]
#5320175 - 02/20/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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virola spp perhaps. Virola rufuta is supposedly 95% of the alkaloids 5meo dmt. or Virola theiodora. there are many mores. trout made some notes on alkaloids in ayahuasca plants, should probably be some info there.
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giz
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
#5320182 - 02/20/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you want to see the light you should instead forget about natural alkaloids and get some DPT instead :
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5320205 - 02/20/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you real?
.....I would say anadenathera seeds would be the easiest way to get 5-meo-dmt other than ordering from RC companies.......
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Schwip]
#5320467 - 02/20/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Virola would be the easiest/best way to go if you're doing an extraction.
But I agree, if you want "the light" and aren't getting it from DMT:
1. Try MORE Dmt. 2. Try DPT. 3. Give up on hallucinogens, you're too hardcore.
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Haha, I looked at the title of this thread, saw that elgr was the last person to respond, and was thinking to myself "I think I am going to get along well will this guy".
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Now YOU'RE right behind ME!
Hehe, don't mean to imply that I'm bashing 5-MeO-DMT at all! It's way more potent by weight, and will totally take you out of your mind. But DMT and DPT are truely the definition of "the light" as far as psychedelics go, in my opinion. If you're not getting it with them, you will... take more, but take it easy on the DPT your first time.
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dblaney
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5320650 - 02/20/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't worry, the light will find you.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right
Maybe you are trying to hard to see this light? Or are expecting way more then what nature or the chemists have in mind.......
What about p Virdis? That grows rather easily. Anyone have a comparitive analysis lying around?
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Comparitive of what?
I've read viridis alkaloids to be around .2%, while weaker mimosa is around .57%, with better stuff around 1-1.2%+.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Other plant sources of dmt.
You gave me the info i needed.
Maybe its ease of growth makes up for its lack of content?
What would be the "better stuff"
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For personal growing, and no interest in other alkaloids, viridis is probably your best bet. But you'd still need a lot if you planned on extracting and not just pruning a few leaves for ayahuasca once or twice a year. Chapilonga is more potent by weight, but I've heard it's harder to grow. It does contain 5meo in addition to n,n.
Mimosa of course, is the best option. But unless you get a whole lot of land, and guaranteed real mimosa seeds (lots of false ones on the market) and years to devote, it isn't worth it. You can harvest one year, then let it regrow for 2 or 3. I forget the amount of roots you can harvest from, but it's like 1/4 or so, right? I hear from a full sized tree you'll get 500 fresh grams of mimosa bark per tree. I do not know the fresh to dry weight ratio.
Sorry I don't have any direct experience to offer. If/when I dive in, it'll have to be a point where I know I can keep the plant alive a few years until it's quite healthy. Easy to pull off with cacti, but I tend to kill other plants sometimes. But, when the day comes (if it does) I'll most likely go for viridis.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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by the time i am to be able to have enough of a root crop i think i would have no interest in making myself insane by then. Sad but true. I dont wanna be 30 and and brewing up crazy batches of stuff. I wanna get it done while i am young and have more of a choice on what brain cells i would like to kill. Still its gonna take a couple years before these bushes get to nice bushes. They propogate easily though. If i wanted i could have 30 plus rooted and sprouting cuttings by the end of this summer. Then waite another three years for them all to get to a cropable size. All in all it takes time and lots of space.
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giz
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i wish i could get ahold of chapilonga, its been a desired plant for years.
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
#5320831 - 02/20/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What braincells do you plan on killing with dmt brew?
There have been recent studies on ayahuasca users and their health. I can't judge if you or anyone else doesn't want to trip at the age of 30, but hopefully it isn't only out of concern for losing brain cells.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Naw thats not my only concern. I just dont want it to effect my judgment. Making me run off and travel for another five years trying to figure out all that happened in that short expierience.
It was mostly just sarcasim in my last post.
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giz
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hehe 
nawh i want it more since its a rarity and it would be treated well here in my garden. I am more a pharmahuasca person than ayahuasca and prefer DMT in its purest form.
did you read these studies at ayahuasca.com or?
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
#5320888 - 02/20/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Check out that dude Jorge. Maybe he could work a trade of sorts. I just did a search and he seems to be in like flin down there in the amazon. Inviting people to come down to his abode for a cremonial weekend n what not.
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thedudenj
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Virola theiodora or chaliponga or yopo seeds im gona order tomorrow gotta know btw eating crstals with 5 grams rue should give me the same type of trip as huasca right smoking DMT is way to short for me it makes me want cry cuase its so short my concept of time is too hard to be broken by it
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Edited by thedudenj (02/20/06 05:51 PM)
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giz
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cool, i found his email addy. i will contact him and hear. thanks for the tip
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5320917 - 02/20/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you are just the tryptamine fiend as of late arnt you Dude? Ha ha its all good just making an observation.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
#5320918 - 02/20/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ha ha sweet! Glad it might prove helpful! If its all good let me know. I wouldnt mind a new addition eather!
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thedudenj
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i have always loved em after my first mushroom trip and a year of dxm use brought me to mushrooms. which lead to dmt and mesc
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5320951 - 02/20/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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dxm fucked you up though for a while right? I saw a few friends get some kind of addiction to it.
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Woaaaahhh hold on? Did someone say Jorge? As in the dude who rips hella people off from peru? DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY. There's a thread on the nook for everyone who he ripped off. At first, he sold people kilos of "peruvian torch skin" which was really a kilo in undried (and therefore rotten by the time it arrived), then he just stopped responding or sending things at all. There's a thread on ayahuasca.com I think too. Really scummy person. Now one of his relatives is selling for him.
Unless it's a different person, beware.
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giz
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thanks for the warning. i found posts that confirms what you say.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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woah woah woah! my bad for sending anyone the wrong way!
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thedudenj
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5321797 - 02/20/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: Virola theiodora or chaliponga or yopo seeds im gona order tomorrow gotta know btw eating crstals with 5 grams rue should give me the same type of trip as huasca right smoking DMT is way to short for me it makes me want cry cuase its so short my concept of time is too hard to be broken by it
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5321828 - 02/20/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry for the OT, but that jorge thing was important.
If you want to do an extract the same way you did with mimosa, but for nearly-as-pure 5-meo instead, go with the virola. Yopo tends to be more of a bufotenine trip, and not something most would find enjoyable. I got some neat effects, but I'm glad I got the seeds for free, as I certainly don't see them as something I'd like to spend money on.
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thedudenj
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well what bout chaliponga i get that 60g for 17 so i have used it for huasca but never extracted which will have more alkoloids and can huasca be made with virola i want to make some huasca too. I practice shamanisim and giving some one crystals takes away for the whole experiance as where drinking tea made of a bark , vine and leaves adds
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Edited by thedudenj (02/20/06 10:17 PM)
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5322608 - 02/21/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The thing about leaves is you need to worry more about defatting than the bark. Virola would be an excellent thing just to substitute in for mimosa.
Chaliponga has a mix of dmt and 5-meo-dmt.
I've heard very little about the use of virola in beverages. I've heard of people adding a little to existing brews, but never a straight up virola drink really. I'd be curious, but most sole 5-meo-dmt MAOI oral experience I've heard of sound quite intense.
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thedudenj
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cool i do psychedelics for the intensity visuals are just a bonus you have any clue of dosage for virola cause its either 60g of Chaliponga for 17 or 114g of virola for 15
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
#5323784 - 02/21/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, but I can tell you that you'd have 2 or 3 doses from the chaliponga.
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