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Invisiblethedudenj
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5-Meo-DMT source
    #5319911 - 02/20/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

whats the best source to extract 5-Meo-DMT DMT isnt deep enough i want the light!!! :eek:


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InvisibleAbrainspot
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
    #5320152 - 02/20/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Dose 3 hits of acid, a quarter oz of liberty caps, and snort some DMT. Then take a hit of 40x salvia, you'll see some light


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Invisibletiny_rabid_birds
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5320162 - 02/20/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

While the paramedics and/or doctors in the psychiatric ward check his pupils for dialation?


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Invisiblegiz
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5320175 - 02/20/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

virola spp perhaps. Virola rufuta is supposedly 95% of the alkaloids 5meo dmt. or Virola theiodora. there are many mores. trout made some notes on alkaloids in ayahuasca plants, should probably be some info there.


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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
    #5320182 - 02/20/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

if you want to see the light you should instead forget about natural alkaloids and get some DPT instead :


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OfflineSchwip
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
    #5320205 - 02/20/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Are you real?



.....I would say anadenathera seeds would be the easiest way to get 5-meo-dmt other than ordering from RC companies.......


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InvisibleKoala Koolio
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Schwip]
    #5320467 - 02/20/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Virola would be the easiest/best way to go if you're doing an extraction.

But I agree, if you want "the light" and aren't getting it from DMT:

1. Try MORE Dmt.
2. Try DPT.
3. Give up on hallucinogens, you're too hardcore.


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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320474 - 02/20/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Haha, I looked at the title of this thread, saw that elgr was the last person to respond, and was thinking to myself "I think I am going to get along well will this guy".


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InvisibleKoala Koolio
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: whatever123]
    #5320647 - 02/20/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Now YOU'RE right behind ME!

Hehe, don't mean to imply that I'm bashing 5-MeO-DMT at all! It's way more potent by weight, and will totally take you out of your mind. But DMT and DPT are truely the definition of "the light" as far as psychedelics go, in my opinion. If you're not getting it with them, you will... take more, but take it easy on the DPT your first time.


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Invisibledblaney
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: thedudenj]
    #5320650 - 02/20/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Don't worry, the light will find you.


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InvisibleCorporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320694 - 02/20/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Once in a while
you get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right

Maybe you are trying to hard to see this light? Or are expecting way more then what nature or the chemists have in mind.......

What about p Virdis? That grows rather easily.
Anyone have a comparitive analysis lying around?


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InvisibleKoala Koolio
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5320708 - 02/20/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Comparitive of what?

I've read viridis alkaloids to be around .2%, while weaker mimosa is around .57%, with better stuff around 1-1.2%+.


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InvisibleCorporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320725 - 02/20/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Other plant sources of dmt.

You gave me the info i needed.

Maybe its ease of growth makes up for its lack of content?

What would be the "better stuff"


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InvisibleKoala Koolio
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5320755 - 02/20/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

For personal growing, and no interest in other alkaloids, viridis is probably your best bet. But you'd still need a lot if you planned on extracting and not just pruning a few leaves for ayahuasca once or twice a year. Chapilonga is more potent by weight, but I've heard it's harder to grow. It does contain 5meo in addition to n,n.

Mimosa of course, is the best option. But unless you get a whole lot of land, and guaranteed real mimosa seeds (lots of false ones on the market) and years to devote, it isn't worth it. You can harvest one year, then let it regrow for 2 or 3. I forget the amount of roots you can harvest from, but it's like 1/4 or so, right? I hear from a full sized tree you'll get 500 fresh grams of mimosa bark per tree. I do not know the fresh to dry weight ratio.

Sorry I don't have any direct experience to offer. If/when I dive in, it'll have to be a point where I know I can keep the plant alive a few years until it's quite healthy. Easy to pull off with cacti, but I tend to kill other plants sometimes. But, when the day comes (if it does) I'll most likely go for viridis.


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InvisibleCorporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320787 - 02/20/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

by the time i am to be able to have enough of a root crop i think i would have no interest in making myself insane by then. Sad but true. I dont wanna be 30 and and brewing up crazy batches of stuff. I wanna get it done while i am young and have more of a choice on what brain cells i would like to kill. Still its gonna take a couple years before these bushes get to nice bushes. They propogate easily though. If i wanted i could have 30 plus rooted and sprouting cuttings by the end of this summer. Then waite another three years for them all to get to a cropable size. All in all it takes time and lots of space.


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Invisiblegiz
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320790 - 02/20/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i wish i could get ahold of chapilonga, its been a desired plant for years.


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InvisibleKoala Koolio
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
    #5320831 - 02/20/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What braincells do you plan on killing with dmt brew?

There have been recent studies on ayahuasca users and their health. I can't judge if you or anyone else doesn't want to trip at the age of 30, but hopefully it isn't only out of concern for losing brain cells.


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InvisibleCorporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320876 - 02/20/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Naw thats not my only concern. I just dont want it to effect my judgment. Making me run off and travel for another five years trying to figure out all that happened in that short expierience.

It was mostly just sarcasim in my last post.


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Invisiblegiz
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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320880 - 02/20/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hehe :smile:

nawh i want it more since its a rarity and it would be treated well here in my garden. I am more a pharmahuasca person than ayahuasca and prefer DMT in its purest form.

did you read these studies at ayahuasca.com or?


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InvisibleCorporal Kielbasa

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Re: 5-Meo-DMT source [Re: giz]
    #5320888 - 02/20/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Check out that dude Jorge. Maybe he could work a trade of sorts. I just did a search and he seems to be in like flin down there in the amazon. Inviting people to come down to his abode for a cremonial weekend n what not.


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