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Offlinelovepalace
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Got Crystal ?
    #5319814 - 02/20/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Extraction has long been an interest to me. Over the last couple months I've been conducting a series of experiments trying to determine the best method. My last extraction was done with 30g. and methanol first soak then ethanol/water second soak (12h/24h). Filtered liquids where combined and placed in the garage to evap under a fan. It's winter now and quite cold. When I checked on it several hours later I noticed that there was a white precipitate falling out of the solution and it had only reduced in volume by about 1/3. It was like it was snowing inside the beaker. I think the cold temps helped to facilitate this. Small crystals where starting to collect on the bottom of the beaker. However after all the solvent was evaporated off I was left with a considerable amount of brown goo. Which came as a surprise even After vacuum filtering through a fine filter paper which was supposed to eliminate the goo. So in a desperate attempt to salvage the extraction I redissolved it in some water/ethanol and placed back in the garage this time without the fan. The goo quickly dissolved in the solution but I noticed a couple crystals that where larger than usual and did not dissolve easily. I was not concerned because I figured they would just act as seed crystals. To my surprise when I checked the next day there where several crystals forming on the bottom of the beaker. over the next several days with slow evaporation they continued to grow into what I have pictured below. Three grams total after drying and very easy to handle. For my next experiment I'm going to try using a piece of these crystals as seed crystals in a new extraction with slow evaporation in cold temps (like making rock candy with sugar water) to see if I can duplicate the results.

Sorry forgot to mention they are the result of 30g. of mushroom powder.




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Edited by lovepalace (02/20/06 12:55 PM)


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5319821 - 02/20/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Cool, DMT?


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5319822 - 02/20/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

nice work, but what are they? you dont mention what kind of crystals they are :smile:


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: giz]
    #5319829 - 02/20/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Good lord thats cool!


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5319862 - 02/20/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Psilocybin crystals hopefully!


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5319905 - 02/20/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

why are they brown


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5319908 - 02/20/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That is fucking awsome!!!!!


in awe :laugh:  great work !


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: Schwip]
    #5320045 - 02/20/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, i'm curious too.

Was this extraction of psilocybin?


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. [Re: lovepalace]
    #5320072 - 02/20/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/07/13 03:26 AM)


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5320107 - 02/20/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow congrads, that is impressive

:crazy2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5320204 - 02/20/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

nice crystals!

but 3g from 30g of mushrooms... that's 10% --> I wonder what's in those crystals :rolleyes:


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: stefan]
    #5320233 - 02/20/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

he never said what type of "crystals" he was talking about...


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: stefan]
    #5320251 - 02/20/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

impressive and ver interesting...


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5320271 - 02/20/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

chuck_lanuck said:
he never said what type of "crystals" he was talking about...




Oh really...

Quote:

lovepalace:
Psilocybin crystals hopefully!




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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: abrad84]
    #5320318 - 02/20/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

abrad84 said:
Quote:

chuck_lanuck said:
he never said what type of "crystals" he was talking about...




Oh really...

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lovepalace:
Psilocybin crystals hopefully!







Haha, didn't even see that. duh. :stoned:


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5320395 - 02/20/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Cool!


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: Kingkole]
    #5320462 - 02/20/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, but I too wonder what on earth is in there. I posted a guide from triptamine recently for quality psilocybin crystal extraction using vitamin C. It doesn't really stay stable otherwise. Good luck...


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: lovepalace]
    #5320464 - 02/20/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

um yeah cool n stuff but why did you assume you were going to get crystals w/ just an alcohol extration and evaporating? and filtering is not going to yeild you a pure product free of impurities...


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: A0999]
    #5320556 - 02/20/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

smoke it and tell us. :bongload: :discodance:


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Re: Got Crystal ? [Re: stefan]
    #5320589 - 02/20/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

For those who are not familiar with alcohol extractions it goes like this .

grind shrooms into a powder and soak in alcohol.
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then filter and evaporate off the alcohol to end up with this.
[image][/image]

which can then be put into a gel cap or redissolved into alcohol (vodka) and consumed.
[image][/image]

The extractions are easy to perform and are effective at removing the alkaloids. However the efficiency and consistency of the final product can vary considerably. The problem is that the alcohol also extracts some other fats and oils from the shrooms which results in a sticky brown tar. This tar makes the crystals hard to work with and the amount of tar varies with each batch. Even with good filtration. Also the crystals appear to be hygroscopic and absorb moisture from the air. so if it is not consumed in a short amount of time or stored in alcohol or a desiccant container it will melt back into a goo and become inactive. Efficiency and storage are why most people don't bother. It takes time and money and the end results can vary. So the idea that I am working on is to somehow remove the tar or the crystals from the solution yielding a purer more stable product. You can see in this picture that the crystals precipitate out of the alcohol easily enough.
[image][/image]

this was the remaining water/alcohol after the crystals where removed
[image][/image]

which then turned into this
[image][/image]

If you look at the crystals in the first post you will see aside from a little brown residue on the some of the crystals they are quite clear. They are not sticky and quite easy to handle.

Now these are obviously not pure that is not the objective. however a reduction from 30 g. to 3.g is a good start. Based on this information 30 g. should contain about .7% psilocybin that would be about 200mg. so my 3g. crystals should be about 7% pure (I think). My 30g. powder would be about 8 3.5g. doses which I know the effects of in both powder and tea form. so if I consume about 375mg. of these crystals hopefully it will have about the same effect. I'll test in the next week. Then I will eat the brown tar and see if anything happens. If I am lucky the crystals will contain all the goodies and the goo will contain none. Time will tell.


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