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mogur
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Re: Alcohol [Re: blackout]
#5327304 - 02/22/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Exactly right, you guys. The fine mist from an aerosol will intercept way more 'floaties' than a trigger spray. In addition to not bleaching everything in the room, the quats in Lysol and the glycols in Oust are less toxic for us to breathe. But, if all you have is bleach, it will do the job also.
I was looking up the actives in the various household aerosols and was surprised to find that many only have alcohol has a disinfectant. Lysol sanitizer doesn't even have alcohol. You want to make sure that the word 'antibacterial' is included in the marketing hype, whether it's Oust, Ajax, Lysol, Clorox, Comet, or any other brand. Really long chemical names that include either the word ammonium or glycol are the most effective.
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Re: Alcohol [Re: blackout]
#5327707 - 02/22/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oatman2000 said: wow... i've always rinsed my tubs out with a 10% Iso Alc solution,
] 10% of a 70% solution? that will do nothing much at all I'm afraid. Bleach is the way to go, dirt cheap too.
sorry... 70% iso Alc. mixed with water 1/10 ratio Alc/water. to clarify
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I?ll have to find a way of misting with bleach...  Is Ajax better?
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Re: Alcohol [Re: FGL]
#5328448 - 02/22/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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FGL said: I?ll have to find a way of misting with bleach...  Is Ajax better?
I am guessing that an aerosol antibacterial spray meant for disinfecting room air is better than misting with bleach, based on the reasons cited above. But, if you're asking which brand of aerosol is better, then I certainly don't know. A microbiologist probably wouldn't even know, unless he ran extensive comparative experiments. There are a dozen or so categories of bactericidal agents, and manufacturers seem to all choose from four of these groups- alcohols, glycols, quats and phenols. They usually pick 2 or 3 ingredients from a couple different groups. Most literature that I have read, stress that there is no 'ultimate' agent that is better than all others, it depends on the target and situation. I think most of these formulations are pretty equivalent, and any of them will result in "99.999% reduction of germs". (About the same efficiency as a HEPA filter.) And that's all that's required here, any surviving germs won't be numerous enough to have much chance of sneaking into your fungus culture.
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Re: Alcohol [Re: mogur]
#5328481 - 02/22/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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FYI, It smells nasty, BUT.
Vinegar & H202 make as good a sanitizing agent as you can get, for hard surfaces.
One mist bottle of white vinegar, another misting bottle of 3% peroxide.
Spray one on, wait a moment, then spray the other on on.
Then, wipe down with a clean cloth.
This works as well as Lysol.
Oddly, if you mix the 2 together, it is not as effective.
I gather one solution weakens the nasties, then - once weak, the other kills them. Hell, if I can explain it in a scientific way, though.
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Re: Alcohol [Re: agar]
#5328950 - 02/22/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard that about vinegar. Sure is safer and better for the environment. Think I'll give that a try.
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cappa
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You're right. Traditional bleach is actually clorine disolved in water with a small amount of lye in it. However, for our intents and purposes(disinfectant) it's just the same to treat it as clorine in water. ~Cappa.
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Re: Alcohol [Re: cappa]
#5329029 - 02/22/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did you see the process I posted above?
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LumpyNutz
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idk but sometimes i wet down a paper towel with iso and wipe down the inside/outside walls and lid just to keep things extra sterile. it wont hurt your cakes so long as u dont get the iso directly on the cakes/fruit.
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who are you talking to?
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LumpyNutz
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spacechildo said: who are you talking to? 
who the fuk u think?
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Liquidkick said: Does isopropal(SP?) alcohol kill mold spores? Like lets say you needed to wipe down a tub.
he asked if iso kills mold spores/wiping down tub... i said to him i wipe my tub with iso and it seems to work fine for me do u know how to fucking read???
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Delinquentes said: Bleach is best left mixed with water only...seriously.
ya. one time i mixed bleach with windex cleaning my bathroom and had the sickest headache had to go to the hospital n shit..
alwways do ur research before mixing any type of chemical!
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LumpyNutz said: do u know how to fucking read???
OP hasnt been here in 6 yrs
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LumpyNutz
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lol idk why but for some reason this thread was on my main message board didnt even look to see how old it was. dont kno how i got there!
anyway, sorry for the harsh words love,peace,and happy shrooming!
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