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OfflineKaleidoscope
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Re: Legalization?? [Re: Shimen]
    #5318473 - 02/20/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It just shouldn't be illegal to consume anything. If people would take personal responsability for their actions, none of this would be a problem. If someone is dumb enough to think that eating rat poison is helping them in some way, by all means should they be allowed to do so. Natural selection. I don't need the government to tell me what I can and can not do just for the sake of my own safety. The same line of thinking should go for 'drugs' as well. If someone is dumb enough to hurt themself with them, good. let them go ahead and kill themself, it's not my problem and they're helping the rest of us out by removing their genes from the cycle of life.


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Re: Legalization?? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5318845 - 02/20/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That's the problem though. I am quite capable of safely driving a car over the speed limit, but people in general are way too stupid.


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Re: Legalization?? [Re: MenuShroom]
    #5318952 - 02/20/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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MenuShroom said:
so if the gov. won't legalize because they can't tax... wtf are we supposed to do?

actually denver legalized possession of mj for personal use... did ya'll hear about that?




Actually the government in some states already has laws that tax marijuana. Your suppose to buy these tax stamps and put them on your stash. Most people don't know about these laws.

They created this tax stamp law so they can add tax evasion to the possession charge when they bust you, so they can give you a tougher sentence.

and by the way in Denver the legalization of small amounts of marijuana has no effect on how cops enforce the law there, since marijuana is still illegal in the state of Colorado, state law overrides city law. Even if it was made legal in Colorado, it would still be illegal by federal law.


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Re: Legalization?? [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5320584 - 02/20/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Sinthetic said:
That's the problem though. I am quite capable of safely driving a car over the speed limit, but people in general are way too stupid.




driving is not a good comparitive example because it puts other people in danger when everyone is allowed to drive without laws. Using drugs, in and of themselves, can only be harmful to the user. I'm in full support of laws against driving under the influence and other such laws that are for the safety of other people from my actions but as far as laws that govern my safety from myself go, I feel they are not only unnessecary but a fundamental violation of my rights as a human being.

Let stupid people kill themselves with drugs. like I said, they're only helping us out in the long run.


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Re: Legalization?? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5320612 - 02/20/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

They're helping no one.

Okay, they're gone? Great, problem solved. Except those people have families. Their hatred for drugs will grow so immensely in one day than your love for drugs has grown on your most profound trip. These are the people who start the soccer mom groups, these are the people who rally up anti drug supporters.


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Re: Legalization?? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5320633 - 02/20/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yep, but they aren't about personal responsability though. They're blaming the drugs, the people, everyone but who they should be blaming which is the person who did it to themselves. Plenty of people in my life have been killed by their own actions with drugs. Two of my closest friends. One OD'd on heroin, and the other got depression when he tried to get off coke and committed suicide. I don't blame the drugs. I blame them. I felt bad they were gone, in fact I really really wish they weren't. They were friends of mine it's natural to feel bad. My point is though, if people take responsibility for what they do and accept that other people have responsibility for their own actions none of this is a problem.

The problem is that everyone in America wants to blame everything bad that happens to them on something or someone else rather than just accept that the problem is theirs. That attitude does not just apply to drugs, it applies to life.

I just kinda realized how negative sounding I'm making this good idea seem. All I'm trying to say is people need to stop making cop outs like "It was the drugs" or "If that guy would have waited 2 seconds longer I never would have hit him going 80 miles an hour" and start saying things like, "dammit I shouldn't have done that but it was my decision/mistake and I have to live with it."


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Edited by Kaleidoscope (02/20/06 04:53 PM)


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