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MARINOL
    #5317049 - 02/19/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I was surprised NOT to be able to find much info on Marinol/Dronabinol at Erowid. But have no doubt depending on dosage and what else you may already have in your system the effects can vary widely. From a nice stoned feeling with 20mg. Marinol w/25mg. of juice to total paranoia with 40mg. I felt like total shit and just wanted to go to sleep and put myself outta my misery though there were audio effects that reminded me of how music sounds when your beginning a LSD trip. But the most interesting effects of just 10mg. marinol before going to sleep one evening recently with nothing else in my system the whole day, nothing at all-totally straight were dreams of the weirdest type that were totally animated in living color. And when I woke up slowly that morning I still had a body high and things were alittle surreal. I went about my usual morning business a little earlier than usual and Whammm I remembered a dream I had that was exactly my morning routine down to the smallest detail. I had a precognitive dream. Cool chit for someone who doesnt even like weed.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #5317090 - 02/19/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i never heard of it?


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Trippy_Search]
    #5317342 - 02/19/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

news to me


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Trippy_Search]
    #5317788 - 02/19/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You people are kiddin me? Well school is in session boys and girls. Marinol is pharmaceutical grade THC prescribed for nausea in chemo patients. The powers that be figured if government is going to allow medicinal maryjane they might as well cash in. The 10mg. pills I had with the UM on em are little round oil filled balls. They are pretty easy to get around here and they do pack a nice buzz. Though if your a big tree hugger they might not pack the wallop I received. :zoom:

 


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #5317819 - 02/19/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Those aren't easy to get ahold of anywhere i lived before.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #5317960 - 02/19/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Those made me super sick orally, have you tried popping them open and smoking?


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Re: MARINOL [Re: schmutzen]
    #5321878 - 02/20/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No haven't tried smoking it. The other method used was cuttin open and mixing the oil with some water and suckin it up with a 1cc syringe, don't remember feeling all that much it was back when marinol first became available at least a couple of yrs. ago. It's been recommended not consume more than 40mg. if your not a big tree man. I was just amazed at the effects just one 10mg. had on my dream state. Totally lucid, animated and colorful. It was like watching animated Robert Crumb, wierd but cool. Looking forward to my next batch. :zoom:


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"There is a wealth of information built into us, tucked away in the genetic material in every one of our cells. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature."

Tell me something good then I might agree with you....the Smithereens


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #5321922 - 02/20/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

how hard is marinol to get?

my apetite sucks and i hate eating unless i've been getting high.

i could tell a doc that, minus the getting high and tell him i want to try marinol.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: leery11]
    #5321999 - 02/20/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think its too hard to get. Especially if you have an openminded Dr. And you do get the munchies after. :zoom:


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"There is a wealth of information built into us, tucked away in the genetic material in every one of our cells. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature."

Tell me something good then I might agree with you....the Smithereens


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #5327096 - 02/22/06 03:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i've had the jell caps before... the thing to do is to poke a hole in the cap and smear the contents on the outside of a cigarette.......... or if you wanna get really fucked up, pour all that shit on your joint


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Hatchetman]
    #5327254 - 02/22/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Marinol is the DEA's synthetic version of weed, which they developed for the war on drugs. Studies have shown for years that not only do you get higher quicker and stronger from a joint, than their synthetic version, but the medical benefits of Marinol are inferior as well.

DEA has simply joined in the pharmaceutical arena with their own patent. They are cornering the market by making Marinol the only legal "Weed" in the country ....which they conveniently own the patent for.

Smokable street pot is better and easier to get.

NOW...for those interested in pharmaceutical grade "WEED" that is actually superior to smoking, the world now has Sativex. This is not a synthetic version, but an extract, and is available for Canadian medical patients.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Bamaman]
    #5327351 - 02/22/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm Canadian and I have tendenitus, insomnia, and I frequently have problems getting myself to eat anything without feeling sick (except when it comes to the munchies or if I have something starch-based to go with it) am I set?  :cool:


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Re: MARINOL [Re: StickyWater]
    #5327417 - 02/22/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The fact that your Canadian definitely makes you a candidate...lets see what medical reasons are justified for a Sativex prescription....

"...for relief of symptoms of multiple sclerosis (MS) and for treatment of severe neuropathic pain."

"Prospects for Sativex were boosted following the release of long-term data suggesting that CHRONIC USE of cannabinoids IS MORE EFFECTIVE in relieving symptoms of multiple sclerosis than short-term use. The data, from the Cannabinoids in Multiple Sclerosis Research (CAMS), compared cannabinoid treatment over 15 and 52 weeks in MS patients.

Sativex and a related tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) medicine are also undergoing phase III trials for the relief of cancer pain. If this indication is approved, Bayer has an option to market these drugs for neuropathic-related cancer pain."

"Sativex is a cannabis extract containing tetranabinex (THC) and nabidiolex (cannabidiol - CBD) as its principal component. It does not contain the active substance found in recreational cannabis and so patients taking Sativex will not become intoxicated. Sativex is administered by means of a spray into the mouth rather than smoked."

Hmmm....that last part is contrary to what I had already heard on the subject. ??????

It was my understanding that Sativex DID in fact cause the "intoxicating" effects often desired by the recreational user. I was under the impression that the "high" associated with marijuana use could not be effectively separated in such an extract. And, that the compounds that produced the "high" were essential in producing the medically effective extract.

I'll have to do some checking to find which resources are correct.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Bamaman]
    #5327482 - 02/22/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Alright...I think I understand the reason for that statement.
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"Is it true that, unlike marijuana, Sativex doesn't produce a "high"?

Sativex and marijuana are nearly identical in this regard: Most medical marijuana users obtain relief without becoming intoxicated, and the same is true of Sativex. While both contain THC, the component that produces marijuana's "high," both also contain other natural plant components which moderate its effects, and both allow users to adjust their dose as needed to obtain relief without intoxication."
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It does get you high, they simply recommend low dosages that don't. This is like telling a pothead to take a single hit or two off a joint. They ingested enough THC to relieve neuropathic pain, increase appetite, etc..., but not enough to really feel stoned. Smoke more, get higher....spray more Sativex in your mouth, get higher.

This is suredly more of a public relations advised dosage. The company knows it can't get the medical benefits they desire if they remove the "get you high" compounds. But with the conservative and ignorant attitudes that are associated with recreational use of any illegal drug, they are attempting to control the drug dosages to avoid those who would abuse it for recreational means. We all know how well that works.....

None of us have ever taken a Lortab while drinking, or that wasn't prescribed to us, or for anything other than a doctor ordered reasons....right?

Such abuse of prescription drugs including Sativex may become much more difficult with, Advanced Dispensing System "ADS".
http://www.gwpharm.com/research_ads_intro.asp

The lengths "the system" will go to ensure we don't make ourselves feel good, is ridiculous.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Bamaman]
    #5327498 - 02/22/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, but once they enforce that, there goes a bunch of money down the drain, all that's changed is that pot-heads have to collect the spray for a day or two  :lol:

Surely in our younger years we've all taken a little bit of something at a time and saved it until we had a decent amount, whether it be money or your parent's liquor whatever, point is that I don't think this is going to work... it might slow it down, but then you get dealers selling vials of Sativex they collected over 2-3 days

Why can't they just accept that they can't prevent people from doing it and leave us alone, what do they care? The more we use it recreationally, the more money the drug companies get... Eh, well until I get cancer or something looks like I'll just have to go to my... errr... "private pharmacist" for my THC needs


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Re: MARINOL [Re: StickyWater]
    #5327571 - 02/22/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It may not ultimately work but it will make abuse more difficult. Like I said it is all PR. Your right, the drug companies just want to make money.

If they were concerned about the dangers of recreational use they wouldn't have waited for the Federal government to ban all the "cure all tonics" and "feel good elixirs", in the days of yore.

They also wouldn't have argued with the DEA's crystal meth task force when they attemted to get ephedrine and pseudo-ephedrine controlled. It didn't matter to them the amount of lives that meth destroyed or that 60% percent of their legal cold medicine product was turned into illegal drugs.

The pharmaceutical companies want to make a buck, but politics have become such a major issue that they also need to maintain a degree of apparent concern when it comes to recreational use. If the government didn't give them such a hard time...they wouldn't care what we did with them, just as long as we keep buying.


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Re: MARINOL [Re: Bamaman]
    #5328112 - 02/22/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

so then it's agreed... hotbox the whitehouse in protest...  :lol::bouncysmoke:


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Re: MARINOL [Re: StickyWater]
    #5328397 - 02/22/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm Canadian and I have tendenitus, insomnia, and I frequently have problems getting myself to eat anything without feeling sick




That sucks, there must not be any compassion clubs near you?

I just wondered if you're taking alleve or naxopren, as they can make a person really sick after eating food.


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