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Offlinewhatinsamhell
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pregnancy and drugs
    #5316976 - 02/19/06 04:14 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

my gf is pregnant and she's paranoid that weed and mushrooms will have adverse effects on the baby. ive already met a ton of kids born of 60's parents who took tons of drugs during the pregnancy and the kids turned out awesome, so i just wanna hear some experiences on here. she's smoked only about 6 times in the five months she's been pregnant and ate 1/16th ounce of mushrooms. imho she's freaking for no reason and such low levels of any substance arent a problem---but she's hormonal and crazy and worries about it and i want her to have some reassurance from people on here.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5316982 - 02/19/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

if you ingest mush, wouldnt that trip your baby?


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5316986 - 02/19/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

my advice is to lay of the drugs... thats your child. are you really gonna take a chance?


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5316997 - 02/19/06 04:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

umm from everything i've come across mushrooms will do no harm to the baby, pot i'm not sure of.
the action of smoking its self is not healthy, so i'd suggest her kicking pot untill shes done. and mushrooms just to be on the safe side.
but i've never read of shrooms doing any harm. erowid has some good info on this topic :smile:


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: soylent_green]
    #5317009 - 02/19/06 04:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

my friend took shrooms with her 6 year old and she tripped and he didnt---he was completely normal (which correlates to my experience, that shrooms bring me back to a childlike state of absolute wonder and allow me to ignore the 'wisdom' of society while seeing the world).

presumably the baby would also trip....and also get high off weed, BUT his lungs would not be affected by the smoke, cuz she absorbs THC into her bloodstream and passes it directly onto him (thus smoking is only harmful to the lungs).

i really wanna hear from people who's parents did drugs while pregnant and who've had no physical problems despite the drugs-are-bad propaganda. (or people who's parents did drugs and have been born with birth defects).

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317017 - 02/19/06 04:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ps---my gf is really unable to function in the world---weed calms her down into a practically enlightened state of complete enjoyment of life, otherwise she's a neurotic mess. i know, its a crutch, but i'd rather see her be enjoying herself than freaking out every day and getting stuck in nightmarish thought circles about the future and worry and the horrors of life. ive met people who's parents did drugs while pregnant--tons of travellers i met with that story, but she wants to hear some firsthand accounts.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317035 - 02/19/06 04:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

wouldn't it be wise to also hear from people who had parents who used drugs while pregnant and did have problems?

i think you're trying to fnd a way to justify this drug use. imho, drug use while pregnant is highly irresponsible, think about the baby. why even take the slightest chance in harming something so innocent and bringing it into this world already at a disadvantage because you wouldn't stop the drugs for 9 months?


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317041 - 02/19/06 04:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ive known 2 women who ate shrooms while pregnant.
BOTH miscarried the following morning.
they tripped for the night, threw up in the morning, and by mid-day they were getting scraped out by doctors.

I see no reason to beleive this is a coincidence.

as for weed. i cannot say for certain.

but if you cant abstain for the gestational period, then you DEFINATELY cant handle parenthood, and you should get an abortion immediately. No child should have to be born to such a selfish mother.

that whole "horrors of life" thing. garbage.
its called unaccountability. blame the world for your inability to handle living.
if you need weed to handle it, what makes you think you deserve children? Having children is for responsible grown-ups. not neurotic, drug-dependant child-people.

think about it, shes dependant on pot, shes unable to go on withought it.
How the hell does she think she can be responsible for a wholly dependant human life when she cant even handle her own shit??

you shouldnt even be ASKING this, it SHOULD be obvious.

Pot during pregnancy is bad enough, but irresponsable people being parents, thats the worst thing in society today. All youre concerned about is if its ok to smoke pot? Do you have any plans? are you just going to pop out a baby and hope evrything pans out?

thats terribly sad, i pitty the baby for the sad-ass future youre giving it.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317044 - 02/19/06 04:38 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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whatinsamhell said:
ps---my gf is really unable to function in the world---weed calms her down into a practically enlightened state of complete enjoyment of life, otherwise she's a neurotic mess.




Wow, and she's going to have a baby??

Hmmm.....


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5317052 - 02/19/06 04:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ya, my thought exactly.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317059 - 02/19/06 04:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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whatinsamhell said:
she's hormonal and crazy and worries about it and i want her to have some reassurance from people on here.




I can reassure her that being hormonal and crazy is normal for women even when
they arent pregnant, she does need to lay off the drugs until after she's
had
the baby, longer if she's breast feeding

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5317060 - 02/19/06 04:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

last 2 posts-- sum it up.

i was gonna come out and say "if you cant back off the drugs, booze, and pot during pregnancy, get an abortion"

but i felt that would be radical for a serious question- even in OTD(i realize this is the pub)

but honestly i feel that wouild be best. back the fuck off drugs while you/ur gf is preggo. and if she doses/smokes because of your influence, for fucks sake dont dose/smoke around her or dont do it at all.


its not just your sanity and health on the line bucko, its your kids too. stay clean for the duration and put it up for adoption. IMO if u cant handle not doing shit while in the cycle, u cant handle parenthood.

i remember when my mom was preggo with my sister, she quit smoking cigarettes cold turkey. she had a fucking shitfit when she realized she took some tylenol and didn't know how it would affect my lil sister.

being blunt here, fuck yourself. put your kid in the front seat.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5317063 - 02/19/06 04:46 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

:badidea:  ... If she does decide to stay clean, {alcohol and tobacco also},you should also to show your support for the health of your future child. If it is your child... :grin:... :2cents:


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5317084 - 02/19/06 04:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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McKennaDMT said:
Wow, and she's going to have a baby??

Hmmm.....




look around the dredges of low-society
does it really surprise you that people could be so irresponsable? look at the low expectations, to subsanitary living-conditions, the narrow gap between sibling ages (which really gets me)
criminals flow most richly from a spring of poverty.
you think a poorly-adjusted parent is going to magically squat out a useful human being?
you cant blame them for being born. but the second they breed, oh ho, ready my contempt.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5317087 - 02/19/06 04:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

thats fucked up when you put your baby at risk like that what kind of stupid fucking people are you. your talking about a baby man they are extreamly sensitive to what the mom is eating or takeing. are you going to give the baby shrooms when its born. i dont care if it doesnt do shit to the baby the fact that you didnt know and did it any ways is a stupid fucking asshole type of thing to do i hope that the kid isnt hurt. grow up asshole

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: horha]
    #5317104 - 02/19/06 05:04 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Actually I think the both of you just need to get a little dignity.
I think you should have your baby. But I also think you should be grown ups from now on.
You, the father, you better be working full time, and saving. You can't afford pot anymore.
You need an apartment with at least 2 bedrooms.
you need alot of supplies.
You know newborns need to be fed EVRY two hours?
You ready for that?
you ready for the medical bills? you need to work somehwere with benifits. Most places dont offer medical for 3-6 months. FORGET minimum wage, you can't afford it.
you need to find a wreched call-center or something.
if you cant get benefits, you better start paying into med insurance NOW.

if you do it right, you might still have time to party maybe once a month, thats not too bad.

Like really, whats your idea of fatherhood?

If your asking about pot during pregnancy, youre asking the Special-ed questions when you should be at least High-school graduate level.

That said, get a councellor, go to parenting classes and immidiately start working full-time with benefits. If you cant get the job, go through other channels. its your baby, and youre running out of time here in drug-land.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5317115 - 02/19/06 05:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Mitchnast

i think your totaly right. ther is no turning back you need to grow up and do the right things for now on

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5317117 - 02/19/06 05:11 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5317120 - 02/19/06 05:12 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

its real simple, don't try to convince your girlfriend to do things she doesn't want to, especially when pregnant., its her choice and by not doing any drugs she have made a correct choice in my opinion.

becoming a father , for me, beats any drugs any day, and is so much more important than drugs.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: giz]
    #5317132 - 02/19/06 05:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

While I'm unsure of the effects of mushrooms on an unborn baby, and what harm it could lead them to later in life. My primary concern of doing mushrooms while pregnant, is the chance of miscarriage.

Really, if you cant lay off of the drugs for 9 months, then you have no business raising a child. While I wont go as extreme as say get an abortion, if you really don?t think you can put the drugs on hold for ATLEAST 9 months, then how do you think you will raise a child?

If the baby does make it through to birth (which I hope it does), how are you going to handle cleaning / feeding / changing the baby if you are high or tripping?

While right now, you may be #1 in your life - and that's all fine and well, but once you have a child, that child becomes #1 in your life, and ensuring it has a healthy, happy and safe home to grow up in. You fall from #1 on the list to #10 on the list, with options 1-9 all being based around raising a happy, healthy child.

If you are not ready for this kind of commitment, then you are not ready for a child.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: kaniz]
    #5317508 - 02/19/06 07:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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how are you going to handle cleaning / feeding / changing the baby if you are high or tripping?




can you guys not function while under the influence of intoxicants?
while it can be a challenge for some, it's far from impossible, why assume that
they will stay fucked up through out the course of the childs infancy?

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5317637 - 02/19/06 08:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

This is one of the most irresponsible and an ignorant things i've heard in a while. No offense man, but if your girl can't lay off the drugs for 9 months due to pregnancy, she obviously has a drug problem. It's not fair for the child to put him/her through the health risks of doing drugs.

Please think of the health of your baby before potentially harming him/her in the most important time of the baby's development.

Reconsider your drug habits until the baby is born.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5317661 - 02/19/06 08:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"BUT his lungs would not be affected by the smoke,"

WTF!!??!! i cant believe there are people out there like you... why not just smoke as many ciggarrettes as she possibly can since smoke doesnt "affect" the baby... jesus christ... if i ever found out the girl i was gonna have a baby with did ANYTHING of that nature, or was even AROUND smoke (not even inhaling) i would be SOOOOO PISSED....

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5317675 - 02/19/06 08:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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while it can be a challenge for some, it's far from impossible, why assume that
they will stay fucked up through out the course of the childs infancy?




while tripping? it can be impossable to speak or stand, let alone delicately handle a fragile infant and effectively handle its crying. there a certain ammount of emotion youre supposed to show your child, how can you do it when youre twisted and feinding? a baby is pretty trippy looking when you're lucid. Tripping, I cant immagine trying to change one. and were talking about people who cant handle the world withought being stoned here. how can you care for a red, lumpy, amorphic blob of pooping noise while youre seeing hair grow on the air? Tripping can last 4-8 hours, do you know how dangerous it is for a baby to wear a diaper and not be fed for that long?

we can assume drugs will be continued to be consumed through the infancy because the mother seems to belive she needs them to cope with reality.
well, reality gets a whole lot more "real" with a baby.
i would say its a fair assumption. In my oppinion, theres no harm in saying things that deride the parents-to-be for the possibility of this future...

perhaps if they have a shred of dignity, they will take their own steps to see it is a brighter horizon for their family, and they won't have to feel that dummies like me were right about them.

Thats the best way to have dignity I think, proving your critics wrong by being above your own standards. And living a good life, not in spite of, but BECAUSE of them.

maybe thats loose logic at best, but it can't hurt.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5343683 - 02/26/06 11:29 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

you guys all talk like teenage kids spouting politically correct bullshit......jesus christ, listen to your judgements. yes, i have plans, you self-righteous ass, Mitchnast. i know your heart's in the right place, but meanwhile your ego wants to flame me? so you can feel enlightened and righteous?

what the fuck happened to shroomery in the last five years...it used to be some old hippies on here and now its a bunch of teenagers with their ideological crap to spout? this shit grows out of the ground. animals eat it. cant be too toxic....again, i want to hear from people who've EXPERIENCED pregnancy directly and have something real to say about it. is there anyone over the age of 20 reading this?

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343717 - 02/26/06 11:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ive known 2 women who ate shrooms while pregnant.
BOTH miscarried the following morning.
they tripped for the night, threw up in the morning, and by mid-day they were getting scraped out by doctors.

I see no reason to beleive this is a coincidence.

as for weed. i cannot say for certain.

but if you cant abstain for the gestational period, then you DEFINATELY cant handle parenthood, and you should get an abortion immediately. No child should have to be born to such a selfish mother.

that whole "horrors of life" thing. garbage.
its called unaccountability. blame the world for your inability to handle living.
if you need weed to handle it, what makes you think you deserve children? Having children is for responsible grown-ups. not neurotic, drug-dependant child-people.

think about it, shes dependant on pot, shes unable to go on withought it.
How the hell does she think she can be responsible for a wholly dependant human life when she cant even handle her own shit??

you shouldnt even be ASKING this, it SHOULD be obvious.

Pot during pregnancy is bad enough, but irresponsable people being parents, thats the worst thing in society today. All youre concerned about is if its ok to smoke pot? Do you have any plans? are you just going to pop out a baby and hope evrything pans out?

thats terribly sad, i pitty the baby for the sad-ass future youre giving it

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343724 - 02/26/06 11:43 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What the fuck else do you expect, a pat on the fucking back? You are talking about giveing a pregnant woman drugs.... Get your head out of your ass, even though it isn't born the baby is yours.

Dude, we arn't doctors we can't tell you much of anything if anything at all.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5343752 - 02/26/06 11:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

everyone in the 60's fucked like mad, did tons of drugs, and millions of babies came out fine. did it ever occur to you that all of this propaganda might be a fucking lie? that 'health' and 'unhealth' are assumptions you are all making based on what you were told.

AGAIN--is there anyone on here who has FIRSTHAND experience.

PS--i'm not talking about shrooming.....i'm talking about weed....not constant weed--OCCASIONAL weed.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343779 - 02/27/06 12:00 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

you're a fool, friend

if one isn't supposed to take caffeine or even ibruprofen

why the fuck would it be a good idea to take drugs  :badidea: :irdumbtard:


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5343794 - 02/27/06 12:04 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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intelligentsia said:
if one isn't supposed to take caffeine or even ibruprofen

why the fuck would it be a good idea to take drugs  :badidea: :irdumbtard:




Caffine and ibruprofen are drugs  :tongue:


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5343804 - 02/27/06 12:06 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly Im sure there is research thats been done by scientists about the effects of marijuana on babies whose mothers smoked pot during pregnancy. Just google it, instead of asking for help with your mind clearly made up.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343810 - 02/27/06 12:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ya ya ya it comes from the ground, its natural blah blah blah


youll be sorry when your kid cant even pass kindergarden cuz he cant read...

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343819 - 02/27/06 12:13 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see"
http://www.marijuana.com/Exposing_07_1095.html

Take this with a grain of salt, your rolling the dice hope you come out on top.



Also this took tops 2 minutes to find from google.


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    #5343847 - 02/27/06 12:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #5343853 - 02/27/06 12:28 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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You might also want to consider studies from less biased websites.




Yeah thats hard. Either you have Pro-drug saying it is healthy as anything else or anti-drug funded by NIDA that say your chromosomes will break with just one toke....


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5343855 - 02/27/06 12:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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you guys all talk like teenage kids spouting politically correct bullshit......jesus christ, listen to your judgements. yes, i have plans, you self-righteous ass, Mitchnast. i know your heart's in the right place, but meanwhile your ego wants to flame me? so you can feel enlightened and righteous?

what the fuck happened to shroomery in the last five years...it used to be some old hippies on here and now its a bunch of teenagers with their ideological crap to spout? this shit grows out of the ground. animals eat it. cant be too toxic....again, i want to hear from people who've EXPERIENCED pregnancy directly and have something real to say about it. is there anyone over the age of 20 reading this?




I have experienced pregancy directly. And I do know what I'm talking about.
I don't care to be ritious, if you'ed read what I said from, any other perspective that that of an ignorant and confused man-child you would know im concerned about your child, more than you apparetly, which is very very wrong.

You're too ignorant to be reached. I know for a fact you dont even realize how self-contradictory and hypocritical you are. and im not interested in explaining it to you, you'll just have to gradually realize by trial ad error just how selfish and repugnant you are being.

"Whats wrong with the shroomery?" heh, and YOU talk of "ego" and "ritiousness" what a blockhead.
You're funny, a genuine article.

"this shit grows out of the ground. animals eat it. cant be too toxic"

come on, even teenagers know better than that. With all the science available you give weak-ass statements like that?

Who do you think you're talking to here? People here wont buy your BS, you've already made up your mind. go and do whatever youre going to do. The melodrama doesn't suit a responsible father-to-be.

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    #5343873 - 02/27/06 12:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #5343881 - 02/27/06 12:44 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Also, get some dignity. please.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #5343883 - 02/27/06 12:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Oh I understand the difficulty it's hard to find unbiased research on anything, especially things so controversial. I think this is why a lot of people just play it safe and don?t anything wile pregnant.




I agree 150.49 % .

Also from my very un scientific guess. That it would be bad for the baby. THC= Increased heart rate , that being said the baby gets nutrients from the mothers ermmm blood I believe? If the baby had any THC and got a racing heart Im sure it isn't to healthy.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5343892 - 02/27/06 12:50 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

speaking as a father of a baby born with a congenital heart defect and having learned a GREAT DEAL about fetal and infant cardio-pulmonary development I would have to aggree with you.
A fetal or infant heart hypertrophies very easily when overworked. and when this occurs in early development is unleashes MANY terrible secondary developmental problems.

so again, i say, get a job with medical benifits now. forget your wholly unwarranted pride here and whatever "plans" you claim to have. just get the medical benifits. I can see you aren't particularly smart. so compensate by working hard.

It's time to realize you aren't the brightest bulb. And you sure ain't the prodigial son. That's nothing to be ashamed of, but you can do better for your child. You really don't have time to confound yourself with the delusion that evrybody is wrong but you.
Just get to work. and earn some respect for SOMETHING.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5343905 - 02/27/06 12:59 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Pregnant women should not do any drugs period. But if she must smoke, limit her smoking to once a month tops and only a hit or two. My wife smoked about 4 or 5 times during her pregnancy and our baby turned out fine, but she only took 1 or 2 hits. But that doesnt mean it won't hurt your baby. Its not worth it period. Oh BTW when the baby is born they check to make sure there are no drugs found in its system and if there are... your baby is gone while you go to rehab (almost happened to us).

If she cannot function without smoking, she better get used to it, being a parent is a lot harder than not smoking.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: pip182]
    #5343936 - 02/27/06 01:24 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I love all the namecalling in this thread.

Dude with the baby: If you have this kid, please, for the love of god, be responsible. If you spawn a crackbaby and let it live in this world, I will bitchslap you to yesterday. :wink:


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: lukeboots]
    #5344080 - 02/27/06 02:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously everything I could think of to say has probably already been said...so.....yeah don't do it man.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: inv3rse]
    #5345775 - 02/27/06 03:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

9 months without drugs, sounds like a long time, but so what? I know that if I ever have a wife or girlfriend who's pregnant, not only will I have her stop using any substance, from mushrooms to weed, but I'll quit as well. *shrug*.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Maverick]
    #5345909 - 02/27/06 03:48 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I know one woman who smoked pot while pregnant and got a healthy baby...
Of course this doesn't mean the same will happen to you...

Every human being (born or unborn), is different so the effects will never be exactly the same. It depends so much on the situation that it is almost impossible to say what will happen...
If i were you i would help your girlfriend to find another way to balance herself instead of smoking pot. Try meditation or Yoga etc etc.... There are many options that don't involve exposing your unborn child to drugs...

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5346511 - 02/27/06 06:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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everyone in the 60's fucked like mad, did tons of drugs, and millions of babies came out fine.




That does NOT mean that the same will be true for your child.

The fact that you even need to make a post and ask whether doing these things are ok should be a good indicator to you. I'm a woman, and I've been through a miscarriage after 6 months of pregnancy. There is no worse feeling, I assure you. My miscarriage had nothing to do with using illegal substances, but your girlfriend doing so COULD have serious health repercussions on your unborn child. Would you be able to live with that chance that if your girlfriend miscarried, or gave birth to a child with serious health problems, that it COULD have been from her smoking pot or eating mushrooms? Is it really fucking worth that?!

I assure you, when you are RAISING this child, the sacrifices you and your woman are going to have to make to raise it right will far surpass turning down pot or mushrooms. Every decision in your life, from the day she delivers to the day that child is an adult will have to revolve around it. Tell your girl to get used to making small sacrifices, because if she can't handle that, she sure as fuck won't be able to handle being a mother.

When and if I am lucky enough to conceive again, I would NEVER, EVER do drugs during pregnancy. Just the chance that it could do something to harm my child would be plenty of reasons for me to stop. It's a shame that's apparently not the case for some people.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5346633 - 02/27/06 06:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What the fuck?

Don't give someone who's pregnant drugs. That's just common sense, fool.


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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: whatinsamhell]
    #5346876 - 02/27/06 07:48 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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everyone in the 60's fucked like mad, did tons of drugs, and millions of babies came out fine.




My mother miscarried several times before I was born, she is a life long hippy and "soft" drug user.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Nashbar]
    #5346941 - 02/27/06 08:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think this guy is even around any more. Or at least he hasn't posted. Man I hope he took some of this advice to heart.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Nashbar]
    #5347337 - 02/27/06 09:57 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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everyone in the 60's fucked like mad, did tons of drugs, and millions of babies came out fine.




My mother miscarried several times before I was born, she is a life long hippy and "soft" drug user.




yes, i was also going to point out just how many miscarrages really occur and just aren't talked about.

pregnancy can be a very delicate process, and losing a baby, although, as the father, might not seem so bad. To a woman, you might as well stab her in the face and lock her in a hole. from the physical act of becomming SEVERELY I'll and having dead tissue be removed from you with husky rasping tools, to the emotional crash of the loss of a child that was as real as if it had been born and loved for years.
women seldom ever really recover. and they blaime themselves. first pregnancy? chances are it WILL miscarrage anyway. Most mothers will tell you they've lost a few. you have to be SO careful. Doing drugs is just plain dumb.
and ignoring that it's dumb is ignorant.
dumb people can get away with being parents by working hard.
ignorant people aren't ready.

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Re: pregnancy and drugs [Re: Blek]
    #5347368 - 02/27/06 10:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think this guy is even around any more. Or at least he hasn't posted. Man I hope he took some of this advice to heart.




I bet he's around, he was probably a puppet made to protect his identity.
He seemed to act like someone who knew his way around the shroomery and had a pretty established idea of what the site is about.
He was wrong tho. First and formost the site is about being responsable with drugs. Not being a cool place where people don't make judgements about drug use and users.
If anything, we ought to all be watching out for irresponsable behaviour, PARTICULARLY when innocent children are involved.
It takes a community to raise a child.

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