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Salvia Doesn't Work For Me?
    #5314216 - 02/18/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, so I did a hit of this acid and I had some salvia. It was a blotter with a third eye pyramid with wings and a halo and a grin missing one tooth, it's all over the internet. I had some 40x salvia extract, my first try of salvia, second acid trip. I took in a long hit after about two hours of tripping off the blotter. I felt a heavy drop in my body and then I came back to my acid trip almost instantly. I was alone and my friend on the phone completely broke through (we both hit at the same time). So I did another hit, and another, and I packed in two pinches of salvia instead of one, then I added more onto it. I must have smoked a quarter of a gram of 40x. It didn't fucking work. I'm really confused, is this the reverse tolerance? It was my friend's first salvia hit ever but he broke through so I don't know. Does salvia just not affect some people or what? Like, I've been building all my experiences up for a break through salvia or DMT experience and now it just doesn't work once I get the drug. If anybody has answer it would really help me cheer up :P Thanks.

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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314303 - 02/18/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Damn you are diving head first man.

Are you some kind of explorer of eternity...40x your first time, on acid :p

I don't know, did you hold the hit for at least 15 seconds?

Maybe it was plain leaves too? Did a friend sell this 40x to you? (or seller confusing standarized extract and leaf?)

And the blotter...is it red pyramid with an eye? and the back of the hit dark colored? Cuz hearing of some, its not lsd.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5314322 - 02/18/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I hope thats real acid, i've only done two different types of blotter. One being the flying pyramids.

I got the same effect from both.



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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5314325 - 02/18/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah it was from a friend, and yeah I'm usually pretty brave about that stuff. It's not the blotter you were talking about, if I can find the picture online I'll show you, but it was defenitely acid. I suppose it could be leaves, but it looks exactly like extract. I'm gonna try the salvia without any acid tonight and see if I can get anything, I just am pretty pissed.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314329 - 02/18/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, that sheet is the blotters.  :smile:  it defenitely is real acid, I've had a different kind too, real nice visuals.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314331 - 02/18/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

some people arent affected by it. It blows my mind thinking how they are not. I have a good friend that is not affected by it. I dont get it... It fucking blows me away


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314343 - 02/18/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

www.blotterart.com

Yeah when i had it on that blotter tho (it was over a year ago) i had to take a lot. I had never done acid before, did 7 hits on my 3rd trip. My friends were all doing 1 or 2 tho, i think i may have a tolerance.

As for the salvia, try doing it while your sober. Use a bong or bubbler and burn it real good.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5314345 - 02/18/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, that was the answer I was dreading. This sucks, I really don't see why it wouldn't work. Like after all this research and anticipation and shit...ugh.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314349 - 02/18/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, people are posting so fast, anyway, I was using a torch lighter on my glass bowl, I tried to burn long and get it real good. I'm gonna try again tonight, but honestly, I don't think it will work.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314351 - 02/18/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Use a water-pipe. I barely got effects from smoking though a pipe


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5314356 - 02/18/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

remember to hold it in as long as you possibly can. Most people fuck that part up their first time...


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5314366 - 02/18/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I held it in around 40 seconds one time because it felt like it wasn't in my lungs so I eventually blew out and all this smoke came out. I am so confused.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314370 - 02/18/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

LOL. yeah... youll know you got a real good hit when you take a monster rip *hold it* then when you blow out, there is no smoke :smile:


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5314391 - 02/18/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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some people arent affected by it. It blows my mind thinking how they are not. I have a good friend that is not affected by it. I dont get it... It fucking blows me away




I think everybody is affected but they have a reason to lie. I made my friend a bowl of salvia, he layed down and didnt talk for a few mins. Then he says nothing has happened. I packed him 4 trips in like 2 hours. Still nothing. I discovered he is so rotten inside, that he was just tripping and wanted to do it again so he lies.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5314397 - 02/18/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

^ Hahaha, damn, but seriously, I'm not feeling much past a heavy pulling down feeling for like 2 minutes.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314489 - 02/18/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No, LOL this guy would have said something if it had affected him. I have heard the same from others as well. This guy that works at a head shop where I first tried salvia years ago... he said that it blows him away but his friend gets NOTHING from it. A few people on the internet Ive exchanged conversation with have claimed the same... I seriously think that for some reason 1-5% of the population are actually non-responders to Salvia. I wish I knew why.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5314525 - 02/18/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I'll give it one more go tonight, I'll let you know.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314544 - 02/18/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Good Luck man. Just be humble and have good intent... salvia can show you infinity; and he may if he likes you.

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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5314550 - 02/18/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to think I've been nothing but respectful to all my hallucinogens, but I don't really know, maybe salvia just doesn't want me to. I would respect that though I guess.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314559 - 02/18/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Are you using a bubbler or bong? I wouldnt waste it through a dry pipe


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314564 - 02/18/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

There has to be some other reason. Perhaps some people have energy that is incompatible with/ useless to salvia. I know if he doesn't like you, he will just show you a terrible time. Seen that a few times. Not getting anything though seems much different...


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5314565 - 02/18/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

trick is dont expect to trip in the first place... just think this will make me a little loopy


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5314722 - 02/18/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever, I tried it again. Nothing. Maybe I just suck. What a fucking waste of money time and research.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5314739 - 02/18/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well that sucks. You can always give bowls of it to your friends and watch them freak out. its funny as hell.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5315731 - 02/19/06 07:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That sucks, man. Don't think that you're missing something, though, it's just that some people have it good, bad, or don't have it at all. Salvia is but one drug amongst many. As far as I know, I get only the bad (so far). Some might consider you lucky.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: supersapien]
    #5315837 - 02/19/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm tellin ya, its the way you smoke it. You have to use a water-pipe, you'll barely feel any effects from just smokin it straight.

Or, you are one of the people who it doesnt effect.

Next time try a bong, and take a huge rip; im sure you'll feel some effects at least


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5315859 - 02/19/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I tried a bong last night. If I decide to try once more I'm just gonna finish it all off in one bowl. Like 1/4 a gram at once, if I feel something I won't feel like I wasted my money. I dunno, thanks for all the help though.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5315872 - 02/19/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yea man defeinetly use a bong or water-cooled device.
If your feeling it pull you down for 2 minutes my guess is it has some effect on you. Next time you use it try it with your eyes-closed. I did a light dose of 20x (adequate medium dose but smoked it out of a shitty aluminum foil pipe). I layed down with my eyes closed and I barley seen the visuals but could see they were there. Was like I was day dreaming or something.. almost had to look for the visuals. But I could definetly tell it was salvia effects. I became a bed and I was in a factory where they were making beds and there were beds to my left and right with heads and talking to eachother incomprehensibly. Than some women started talking to us from ahead (lady salvia?) that shit is what freaks me out the most. How the fuck does literally EVERYONE see or feel a female entity. Now thats just wacked... are there any females out there that have experienced the female entity, I wonder?


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5315875 - 02/19/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Did you buy it from a Shroomery Sponsor?

Is it Stardardized or Non-?


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #5315880 - 02/19/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well to describe exactly what I did last night so there's no confusion...

I used a shitty home made bong, I can't afford one.

I used a torch lighter.

I closed my eyes and stayed still holding in for 25-30 seconds.

I was also outside in the dark if that makes a huge difference.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5315888 - 02/19/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I believe it is non-standardized and no, it's from a head shop around here. I think that it should still work as a 40x extract though. I know like 15 people who have tried the same stuff and they all are like "Oh my god it blew my mind."


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: b1tH]
    #5315924 - 02/19/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Damn...not affected by 40x?

Either you will never be affected, or what you are smoking is leaf or very weak extract. even thenm you would have tripped a bit.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5316644 - 02/19/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well keep in mind 40x from a headshop is almost always shit compared to 40x from a sponsour or homemade


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5318841 - 02/20/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, yeah. Seriously man, buy from a sponsor, buy standardized, not non-, and whether or not to still buy 40x is up to you but I wouldn't suggest it unless you want it to unexpectedly work and blow a hole in your psyche.

Personally, from a small bowl is the only way it's worked for me, the first three times were from a water bong and it didn't work. All from the same bag, by the way, so I don't know why that's the way it was.


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: supersapien]
    #5319868 - 02/20/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

IMO you sgould buy non standardized if its from a trusted vendor such as iamshaman cause the product is usually much stronger than what you pay for


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Re: Salvia Doesn't Work For Me? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5322803 - 02/21/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

x40 salvia on acid... You're fucking nuts. If it actually did work, man you might not realise what you got yourself into. You might realise infinity. Your head might explode. Twice. Then come back and form into a mathematical concept.

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