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Invisibledblaney
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Who would you save?
    #5311123 - 02/17/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you are someone who has overcome attachment and desire (a yogi or a monk etc), and are in a state of unconditional love ("charity"), and you were put in a situation of having to choose whether to save the life of an innocent baby or an SS officer, and you could only save one, which one would you choose?


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5311205 - 02/17/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

whichever one needed it the most.

the SS officer probably had some very bad karma, and the baby perhaps did not.

so in that instance the SS officer, as the baby would be bound for better things (presumably?) and the SS much worse.

generally englithened beings attempt to liberate everyone, though, according to the literature i've very very lightly studied... arhants being an exception.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5311229 - 02/17/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would save whomever I would get to first.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: leery11]
    #5311236 - 02/17/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the SS officer probably had some very bad karma, and the baby perhaps did not.

Would that make any difference to a being firmly planted in unconditional love?


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: Cherk]
    #5311247 - 02/17/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Suppose that physical position made no difference, that there were several men with guns and both the SS man and the baby were bound and unable to move. The lead terrorist told you that you could choose one of them, and whoever you chose he would spare. Also suppose that he is telling the truth.

Who would you choose and why?


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5311265 - 02/17/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd flip a coin.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: Cherk]
    #5311297 - 02/17/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I thought I'd probably do eenie-meenie-minie-mo.

What if instead of an innocent infant, it was your own mother?


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5311332 - 02/17/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd save my mother. You?


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: Cherk]
    #5311648 - 02/17/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why would you save her though? Wouldn't it be because you are emotionally attached to her and desire not to lose her?

(I'd choose my mother as well)


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5311660 - 02/17/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Exactly, and also I don't want to see those close to me me suffer either.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: Cherk]
    #5311844 - 02/17/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

id choose the baby becuase it has more life to lose

between my mother and a baby, still the baby for the same reason


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: fresh313]
    #5311870 - 02/17/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i don't know why you'd be able to only save one, and not both.

i'd save the SS officer. he's lived a life of wrong doing. the baby has a long life ahead in which can be worked upon to make them better people. but its the people of today that will effectively influence the young into who they are in the future.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: lysergicide]
    #5312343 - 02/17/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

dblaney said:
the SS officer probably had some very bad karma, and the baby perhaps did not.

Would that make any difference to a being firmly planted in unconditional love?



how could it not? He would have to have infiinite wisdom too and would make the correct decision.

however i don't think people are allowed to make such decisions.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: leery11]
    #5312729 - 02/18/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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leery11 said:
how could it not? He would have to have infiinite wisdom too and would make the correct decision.




The "correct" decision, eh? And exactly what decision would that be, and what would make it the "correct" decision?

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however i don't think people are allowed to make such decisions.




People have been in similar situations as the one that he just outlined, and people will be in those situations again. Anyone wielding a gun has made the decision on who shall and shall not live, etc. etc. etc.

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Re: Who would you save? [Re: fresh313]
    #5312732 - 02/18/06 05:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
id choose the baby becuase it has more life to lose




Mere speculation. One could save the baby for such a reason and it could die two days later, as a result of a sickness that it caught when the terrorists were holding it in the cold wind without any covers. The officer, having a much stronger immune system, would go on to live years if he had been saved.

One simply cannot forsee which one of the two has more life to lose. All is regardless as it stands, anyways, for the stipulation was that you would be an enlightened individual who holds no attachments or desires. Such a person simply wouldn't think of life as "something to lose", as one is not attached to life. Life simply is to such a person.

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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5312760 - 02/18/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

baby, innocent soul


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: dblaney]
    #5312774 - 02/18/06 06:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would save the baby. The baby has not even had the chance to live a life yet. But the SS officer I am assuming is a grown adult quite possibly an old man. He has had his chance at life and has lived many years.

Save the baby and give a chance to enjoy life.


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Re: Who would you save? [Re: gregorio]
    #5312778 - 02/18/06 06:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Id save the officer, so he could kill the terrorist when its over,lol.


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