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how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke?
    #5310275 - 02/17/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

alright guys, if everything goes as planned i should be smoking my 10x salvia tomorrow.

I have 1 gram of it and it smells like dirt.

how much of this should i weigh out? i have a scale that weighs the tenth of evey gram... so like 0.2 worth of the extract?

let me know.

thanks!


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310325 - 02/17/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd start with less than .1g tbh and gauge my reaction.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310326 - 02/17/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

< .1

You can load it with .1 and just smoke as needed. It'll be pretty easy to recognize your limits... simply because you won't be able to smoke it anymore.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5310345 - 02/17/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

rock on thanks!

im so pumped i cant wait!

once i come down from the intial surge... can i then smoke more right away to blast off again?

or should i give myself a break?


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310366 - 02/17/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You probably won't want to smoke more.  :grin:


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: abrad84]
    #5310415 - 02/17/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

From my experience I have to agree with elgr. There's a breaking point where you are so enveloped in Salvia's secondary dimension there is no concept of smoking anymore. This is why sometimes a sitter is sometimes not a bad idea; not so much to act similar to a psilocybin/LSD session "guide," but more so to care for the environment and the setting (i.e. take the pipe from you when your realities merge, lay you down/sit you up/make you comfortable when you are non-responsive, interpret any requests, make sure you don't fall over furniture, etc.)

:goodluck:


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5310456 - 02/17/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

if you dont have a sitter be sure to do it somewhere not around windows sharp objects or flames, but MAKE SURE TO LIE DOWN. don't get up, just lie down. and go with the flow.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: dubbyah]
    #5310461 - 02/17/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"You probably won't want to smoke more."

No joke. That doesn't begin to describe my desire to not smoke it again, or do any drugs for that matter after salvia.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5310476 - 02/17/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no i wont have a sitter, i will be doing it by myself.

but im a weirdo like that.

i will be doing it in my home, which i feel very comfortable and safe in as i have done countless of psychedelics in this house.

its got alot of good memories i would have to say.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310501 - 02/17/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I find it irratating to be around anyone on this one. Alone is certainly the way to go for me. So long as you've had enough that you can't stand up and hurt yourself, I don't see why there should be a problem.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5310550 - 02/17/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well thats my goal!

hehe.

some of my best times on mushrooms are when im incapacitated and mumbling jibberish haha i love it!


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310730 - 02/17/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, once you're "in it" so to speak, input from people or exterior stimuli can get confusing if not downright annoying/frightening. I think you'll be fine without a sitter.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310852 - 02/17/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Dosage advice is not allowed. My team uses 20-40mg tho.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Asante]
    #5310861 - 02/17/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

:smile:


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5310890 - 02/17/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

agoutihead said:
no i wont have a sitter, i will be doing it by myself.

but im a weirdo like that.

i will be doing it in my home, which i feel very comfortable and safe in as i have done countless of psychedelics in this house.

its got alot of good memories i would have to say.




if you have a short metal or glass pipe, and if you smoke it as described at http://www.sagewisdom.org (although a torch is not required - causes more overheating than necessary), and if you are succeptible, and if you weigh less than 200 pounds,

then 1/30th of a gram of 10X will be enough to have you wishing you did have a sitter,

even in your own home
even with everything you have ever loved
even with lots of confidence and familiarity with other substances.

many good trippers with lots of pride have walked naked in the street for a minute or 2.

if you slide past the level 5 threashold (which is difficult on other psychedelics) you will not remember and cannot predict where you might put that body of yours.

not that this can't be of great benefit or a spur for personal spiritual growth.

mercifully, the salvia experiences are short.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5311059 - 02/17/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well i weigh about 210.. im a stocky/chubby dude kinda.

ill put .15 in the bowl and just spark it up and see how many times i can hit it.


wiccan what do you mean dose advice is not allowed?


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5311108 - 02/17/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It's a rule, generally enforced with everything but mushrooms. Salvia tends to slide as well as other natural things, hits of specific acid, etc. It's the pills and other chems they'll get ya for :smile:


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5311309 - 02/17/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Huh I wouldn't worry too much, except use a little, cause for me and people I know the first time dosn't make you trip nearly as much as you will in later tries


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Turn]
    #5311994 - 02/17/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

let us know how it went dude! ive only smoke dsalvia once, and it waas the funniest feeling, i was getting zapped for a couple minutes, and then that was it. i doubt i broke through, but it wasnt that much


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Jack_Flash]
    #5312046 - 02/17/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i use 1/10th of a gram when i use salvia.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5312805 - 02/18/06 06:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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elgr said:
"No joke. That doesn't begin to describe my desire to not smoke it again, or do any drugs for that matter after salvia."




Exactly. I remember sitting there having felt the hand of god bitchslap me and seeing me friend about to light up another bowl of 15x. I almost violently attacked him because he wouldn't listen, I was afraid it would smoke itself right into my mouth. It was paralyzing.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: supersapien]
    #5313145 - 02/18/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Both times I did salvia I had a bad trip but it is a good thing to try, the first time it was out at a desert party and me and a few of my friends were in my friends car smoking out of his bong and I took one huge rip and I don't even remember passing the bong. They tell me I was laughing hysterically but all I remember is being the devil and then a bigger devil then me came and told me I had failed my job and put me inside this tiny little box for the rest of eternity, unfortunately there were tons of other people there too and they kept asking me questions and stuff and I could not handle it. The second time I was in a parking lot, this time with just two others and we were all doing it and we smoked it out of my bubbler and I went and laid down on the sidewalk and then felt as though I was part of the sidewalk and I just remember screaming "I don't want to be the sidewalk anymore!" Salvia is very intense and unforgiving, but I have heard of many people having good trips on it. Just be careful.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: SnowandLights]
    #5315402 - 02/19/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hold on tight.


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Re: how much of my 1 gram of 10x salvia should i smoke? [Re: justamonkey]
    #5315774 - 02/19/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to think that everyone is entitled to the pleasant part of psychedelics in general, and the remarkably brief opportunity of salvia in particular, but dosage, body size and variance in smoking technique make it very hard for a new salvianaut to find their own sweetspot.

all I can say on the matter is that you can read tons of information which has been collected ( even here among the shroomery faq's)detailing that it is necessary to get only a certain amount of salvinorin into the body within a 90 second period. slower acquisition is too slow, and greater amounts is too much.

level 5 is too confusingly layered to navigate, and layer 6 is so dense that memory dysfunction always occurs.

oddly, since it is non-poisonous, non- nauseating, and legal, the natural approach by intrepid newbies is to take too much and have an unpleasant shock, or to take too little and be frustrated.

my best advice is to ramp up from 1/40th of a gram of 10x to what is pleasant for you, and to use a consistent and effective smoking technique (which for me is a short pipe, regular lighter and fast complete single inhallation -BTW I use less than 1/50th of a gram of 10x and am still often astonished).


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