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Offlinewillmafingerdo
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perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why???
    #5309167 - 02/16/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ive been reading up on some of the tec's for growing pans.. and they all call for perlite in the mix.. but anything ive ever read about cubes they say thats a big mistake.. i know there 2 diff types of mushrooms.. but if perlite increases chances of contams in cubes, why dosent it effect the pans?? sorry if this is a dumb question.. i just cant figure it out.. thanks in advance for any info..

oh ya.. if anyone that has had sucessfull grows w/ pans.. could you plz post a link to the tec so i could take a look at it.. thanks

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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #5309297 - 02/17/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what tek are you reading that calls for perlite in the substrate?


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: coda]
    #5309624 - 02/17/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

And for the record. . .Perlite does not increase the chance of contaminants with cubes.
RR


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: coda]
    #5309672 - 02/17/06 07:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i was reading this in the FAQ's http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/26504

" What is the best substrate to use for Panaeolus cyanescens?
Cow manure is the best single ingredient substrate for all the Copelandias.
There is nothing better for resistance to contamination, yield, and ability to achieve yield in shallow substrate layers.
Rye grain & bird seed both yield extremely small mature mushrooms.
If you can find cow manure USE IT.

by teonan

There are many formulas that work. Do you have access to cow or horse fields? If not just buy some dehydrated manure from a gardening supply store or your local Home depot or Kmart.
I use:
1 cup manure(From a Field)
1/4 cup rye grass seed (Kmart)
1/4 cup perlite( home depot)
Water content to field capacity. Not to wet not to dry. This quantity depends on the moisture contents of your manure.
There are other formulas around, some even include quantity of water to add.

by teonan "


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:scaryshroom: :shitstorm: :mattz: :bongload: :gethigh: :scaryshroom:

I am not lost.. i am going there looking for it.. and when i get there and find it, i will know what it is..

"The way to stop violence is not to go out and let your head be beaten in but to say, you want to take my life risk yours!"

"are you sure u want to eat all them shrooms??"  "yes i want to hear what my mind has to say..."

remember opions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #5309674 - 02/17/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

have you checked out Blue Helix's pan grow..he made it seem doable,scatmanrav also has grwon them out and has a thread about it..im no good at linking ..to burnt but look them up...you will not be dissapointed :wink:


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #5309675 - 02/17/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thanks captin :smile: ill take a look at those.. are they in the grow log forum??


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I am not lost.. i am going there looking for it.. and when i get there and find it, i will know what it is..

"The way to stop violence is not to go out and let your head be beaten in but to say, you want to take my life risk yours!"

"are you sure u want to eat all them shrooms??"  "yes i want to hear what my mind has to say..."

remember opions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.


Edited by willmafingerdo (02/17/06 07:21 AM)


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #5309684 - 02/17/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

blue helix's grow is..scatmans im not sure of..look thru his main threads :wink:glad i could help :grin:


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Re: perlite.. bad for cubes.. but good for pans, why??? [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #5309850 - 02/17/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

teonan was an excellent cultivator and had some great pan grows, but i disagree with his method. I believe there are other ways out there that have been designed since then which make things a lot easier regarding pans.

Blue Helix's grow is a great example of this, his method decreases the likelihood of a contam by removing the spawning step.

Also keep in mind you can pretty much treat a pan spawn just like a cubensis spawn. Colonize grain 100%, spawn to poo in SHALLOW pan of a depth no more then 2 inches, let colonize, case and colonize, and fruit.


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