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what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics)
    #5308069 - 02/16/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Once again, this isn't explicitly related to drugs, but i like replying here more. Please tell me what you think about this..

alright.. so i have this friend who thinks a LOT. not just a lot, but FAST. like.. he can literally have a conversation for 45 minutes about something as simple as a chair. (i know, because he's left me 10 minute voicemails about something as simple as skiing :p) He's a phenomenal conversationalist... ive asked him to to describe what he's thinking. In 5 seconds, he will have already have 10 thoughts, and he can recall all of them.. and in that time, he has 10 more thoughts. its wild.

Anyway, i am quite the opposite. I used to, for lack of a better word, just go braindead. (i dont smoke pot, so it has nothing to do with that). Honestly, to me, it takes effort to actually THINK CONNECTEDLY. i can easily think and hold on a conversation, but i often had an idle mind. It isnt like i dont think.. its like i dont ASSOCIATE. I can think just fine.. but i never really tried to 'link' thoughts to other thoughts. there was a lot of dead space or searching around randomly in my head. for example i would zone out a lot with no thoughts in particular. I could easily talk to people, however it always felt like i was being 'fake' or something.. like trying too hard.

well, after talking to my freind for a full weekend, i wondered if i could make my brain emulate his thoughts. So, one day, i spent all day FORCING myself to think of anything and everything related to sights/sounds/conversations and so on.

Before, i would have looked at a brick wall.. and thats it. i would just look at it. observe the bricks, no thoughts.
I would have looked at my friend.. and just looked at them. perhaps i might wonder if they were familiar or not... thats it though

on this day i tried forcing myself to think however.. if i thought of bricks, i would TRY to think of stuff.. id think of the word brick.. then think of a mason laying the bricks, and where the dirt came from, then id think of the word brick, and that would remind me of the bricks in the sidewalk by our house.. and how id have to shovel snow off them.. etc etc etc. this was very tiring for me.


Well, when i did this.. i was amazed. conversations flowed so easily! this may sound dumb to you, but if you put yourself in my shoes, youd be surprised. I could have conversations like never before.. i would just talk without stopping to pause and htink, i wouldnt sound like a burnout. And i remembered stuff too.. suddenly i would think of errands and stuff i had to do, that normally iw ould have forgotton.

The only problem, is that this gets moderately tiring for me. That sounds sad, but it does.. eventually i have to try really hard to 'force' the thoughts to associate like that. but for those short times it worked wonders. i think i never figured this out, because it took too much effort to try this, and i never thought it would do anything anyway.. i mean really, it doesnt seem like just forcing yourself to think faster would do much.. except make you think faster. but it did so much more for me.

After i thought about it, i thought about my past trips (ive done a lot, dmt, shrooms, lsd etc etc). I have never had a bad trip, but more importantly, i have always felt like i never think that much. people awlays explain they have racing thoughts. Mainly i wouldnt have any thoughts at all! like the complete opposite.. i was tripping pretty hard too, enough to not really be able to talk (never ego loss though). Then i realized, maybe im really NOT thinking... thats strange to me.

Now i have some questions.. or input. this sounds like a dumb topic, so sorry.. but hopefully at least one person can relate.. and if you are like how i was, you should try it. i told my freind to do it too.. think of ANYHTING and everything.. force yourself to associate things with everything.. and it might work for you.

1. do you have any ideas for enriching/expanding this technique? I would like to practice it, but im not sure if im 'going about it the right way'. im sure someone somewhere has written a book about it, or there is a term i am unaware of for what im doing.

2. do you think this is a good or bad quality for tripping? If i had to guess, i would assume that it takes away in that i dont ever really 'explore' as much as others might.. i would just absorb the beauty of everything as opposed to thinking about it. however i probably have the benefit of less bad axniety and bad trips because im very 'go with the flow'. is there anyone with the same thought pattern that could give their input? Its also wierd because when i smoke pot, i think a SHITLOAD.. like to an extreme.. i think so much that i just go into a catatonic state and lie there... usually i think of bad shit too, about life and whatnot.


I guess i dont really have direct questions, im more asking if any of you know what im talking about.. or how i can imporve what im doing. maybe even a term for it would be nice.
also im curious how this plays in with tripping...

im a person who is very itnerested in how brain chemistry works  :sun: i love seeing how different personalities affect peoples experiences on drugs. usually its 99% unrelated.. but when there is a 1% which correlates personality type+drug experience, i think its fascinating..

sorry for that long post  :tongue:


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Edited by Limelight (02/16/06 06:11 PM)


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5308156 - 02/16/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think personality and peoples experiences on drugs are VERY related.

Its pretty easy to tell someone drug of choice through observation of basic mannerisms and expressions of mentality.

Anyways, im like your friend.. When i get in a conversation with someone as into it as i am, the conversation takes a life on its own - im very intuitive and overthink everything (or at least used to).. It was a burden at first but now i can use it to my advantage...

if i was to describe someone, i would start with their hair and its texture and color and the style and how it falls on their face, and its smell, and their smile, and their diet, their fashion, choice of shoes, posture, their movement, their voice and conversation technique, and how it all combines to create the vibe which i then describe.


Etc.. If i think about clothing, i think about where the material came from, what the factory was like, the delivery driver, the packager, the assembly line... the location, the care, the thoughts of the people..

But thats just thinking - it takes no time - thats just how it is, im concerned with all aspects. Accordingly, i may be... disassociated from myself, because i can perceive all my actions and their possible results. In other words, i think of "myself" and "my body" as seperate entities..

Anyways, at this point, ive come to embrace my thinking patterns, predict, and even redirect and break the pattern which leads to more direct experience (no thought loops, or common set backs). However, the direct experience sometimes leads to thoughtlessness - which is wonderful.

Thoughtlessness is much easier in a world where people's situations dont affect you.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5308339 - 02/16/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Given that you're coming from a place of "no-thought" and "no-mind," I'm not sure you should want to change.  After all, isn't that the long-sought after goal of Buddhism?  :smile:

That being said, I'm a connected-thought kind of person, too.  Thing is, it takes no effort, and I'm not sure that's because I'm used to it or what.  All thoughts happen simultaneously, and are mostly connected to deeper meanings.  For example, I might see a brick wall and think of the symbolism contained therein, and how that connects to "brick walls" in my life, so on and so forth.  Is this what you're talking about?


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Gliders]
    #5308465 - 02/16/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Man your friend must have a hard time when taking a big dose of psychedelics!

He prefers playing games...This might hide things from him...You say you don't really think while tripping, but is there enlightment, awareness instead of thoughts process?


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5308838 - 02/16/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

In a way I envy you, I wish I could slow my mind down and just appreciate what is. That's not to say that over thinking is always negative or that you couldn't benefit from sometimes, but it's a fine balance and it generally just causes confusion.

As Gliders pointed out, your thoughts patterns are very similar to those taught through Buddhism. Read "Buddhism, plain and simple" by Steve Hagen if your interested, it also outlines a lot of techniques to keep the thought pattern simple while penetrating to deeper levels of consciousness.

It's quite interesting that your thought patterns speed up under the effect of cannabis, mine do the exact opposite and I become almost brain dead, incapable of linking trains of thought together. But instead of 'going with the flow', my mind starts looping, going over and over that one thought and shutting out external stimuli so I never appreciate the beauty that surrounds me.

I think curiosity is the key to over thinking, so if you?re trying to invoke that state of mind start asking questions. How, why, what and when. Question everything, leave nothing unexplored. For the example of a brick wall, I would see it and question its pattern. Why is it that why, for strength? When did we figure that out? Was it by accident or did it happen methodically or by chance? And what about the material, how did that originate? And so on?


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5308885 - 02/16/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Those are my favorite people, the only ones I will trip with. For example, If you can talk about an audiovisual you heard as it relates to EVERYTHING, for 3 min, and talk about an amount of information that would normally be contained in a 5-7 min. conversation, you are special. If you have a wide vocabulary all of a sudden, that says a whole lot about psychadelics and the fractal memory. You can hang on to some of these talents until you die.

No thoughts does little good under most circumstances. Im pretty sure thats all just bull crap unless you want to be a boring person even to yourself. The inspired capacity to speak is one of the most interesting things about hallucinogens as long as you make sense.
Thinking is key, and that must have been one hell of a exercise for you(the one you did with your friend). People who dont have that inspired capasity to link one thought to a million others are normal, and can be quite smart im sure. They are not much fun to trip with, though everything is beautiful to them, and they feel high and great. I think you have expressed the link between a tripper who really knows what they are doing, and those who know nothing about the physical nature of the mind. The more you think the deeper it gets, the more questions that have to be asked(without reading about it before hand).


"I think curiosity is the key to over thinking"-------->

That is a good point. Once you start asking the right questions all the time you'll even have to question that.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: stemmer]
    #5309857 - 02/17/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm the same way as you, Limelight. It wasn't until I shroomed for the second time that I realized it, too. Because there was so much going on upstairs and I asked myself, "Well what the fuck is USUALLY going on up there?" The answer was "nothing." Most of the time I feel like I have tunnel vision. I'm going from point A to point B and that's all I see. I've been missing so much of life. Not only do I not think, I don't see either. It sucks.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5311068 - 02/17/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Man your friend must have a hard time when taking a big dose of psychedelics!

He prefers playing games...This might hide things from him...You say you don't really think while tripping, but is there enlightment, awareness instead of thoughts process?




theres definitely an enhanced awareness and a very strong feeling of being 'one' and connected with everything. But, i think because i dont THINK that much.. i dont remember the experience as much.
most people say theyre changed from psychedlics.. i am changed, but not something that affects me day to day. i think its because it never really 'sinks in' when im not thinking.

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I think curiosity is the key to over thinking, so if you?re trying to invoke that state of mind start asking questions.  How, why, what and when.  Question everything, leave nothing unexplored.  For the example of a brick wall, I would see it and question its pattern.  Why is it that why, for strength?  When did we figure that out?  Was it by accident or did it happen methodically or by chance?  And what about the material, how did that originate? And so on?




i would never go that deep into thinking normally (about the bricks for example). and when i force myself to i can.. mostly.. but its just so tiring. i feel miserable because it takes so much effort  :confused:

you know that feeling when its 5am and you have to get up.. you CAN do it.. but its just so 'hard'. thats how i feel sometimes under tehse circumstances.
also i should mention that this doesnt mean i cant think at all. im actualyl very introspective, and im pretty smart. its just associating quickly one thing to another, that skill of mine isnt worth shit.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: stemmer]
    #5311077 - 02/17/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Those are my favorite people, the only ones I will trip with. For example, If you can talk about an audiovisual you heard as it relates to EVERYTHING, for 3 min, and talk about an amount of information that would normally be contained in a 5-7 min. conversation, you are special. If you have a wide vocabulary all of a sudden, that says a whole lot about psychadelics and the fractal memory. You can hang on to some of these talents until you die.

No thoughts does little good under most circumstances. Im pretty sure thats all just bull crap unless you want to be a boring person even to yourself. The inspired capacity to speak is one of the most interesting things about hallucinogens as long as you make sense.
Thinking is key, and that must have been one hell of a exercise for you(the one you did with your friend). People who dont have that inspired capasity to link one thought to a million others are normal, and can be quite smart im sure. They are not much fun to trip with, though everything is beautiful to them, and they feel high and great. I think you have expressed the link between a tripper who really knows what they are doing, and those who know nothing about the physical nature of the mind. The more you think the deeper it gets, the more questions that have to be asked(without reading about it before hand).


"I think curiosity is the key to over thinking"-------->

That is a good point. Once you start asking the right questions all the time you'll even have to question that.




The first trip i had i talked about life and existence for 8 hours straight.. i talked so much i lost my voice for a week.
every trip after that i have gone into extremely deep conversations about auras, life, what's after this life, etc.
on doc, i had one of the most extensive conversations ever to my friend about the brain and friends and relationships.

This isnt what im talkinga bout htough,

im talking about that daily skill to quickly associate thoughts with new thoughts (such as funny previous stories, good anecdotes, tips, or a new topic).. its just so tiring for me, i wish there was a way to get this naturally and keep it. even when i do it right, ic an only do it for maybe 5 levels deep before it fizzles out and i have to start over.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5311240 - 02/17/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would also like to make a note.

I just took a quick 20 minute nap, and i didnt even get to sleep because my mind was going from one random thing to another.
My mind doesnt have a problem with this.. often throughout the day i play out scnarios in my head, or ill think of random shit that connects on and on.. but its never usually deeper than 1 level.

Its not like my thoughts connect in a way which is beneficial to a conversation or something, or about 1 specific stimulation.

i want to learn how i can have multiple thoguhts on different levels when it deals with 1 topic. i want to catalyze that as much as possible..

i mean, why else would i have such big long fuckin complicated posts if i were 'braindead'  :tongue:


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5311382 - 02/17/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm one of those people who's always associating things with other things. I definitely think it's a blessing. It's always easier to learn when you're thinking about the subject, too.

I'm constantly amazed by the incredible complexity of everything. Clothes, computers, lightbulbs; how humankind as a whole comes together to invent and make these things, how memes spread and reproduce within the matrix of interlapping human consciousness, and how humankind arises itself. It builds itself off of the surplus of natural resources, the efficiency of a plant or a forest. When I see a forest I think of all these chemicals rising out of the ground in an emergent self-organization fueled by the emergence of evolution coming from the emergence of chemistry coming from the emergence of physics coming from the emergence of plain information theory arising from the fact that anything exists at all. It's too large to be known all at once, yet it comes from the most basic principles imaginable. And I've never even tripped!

One thing you should try is free assocation. Just get together with a good friend who you can trust with anything and close your eyes. Say a word or a phrase, then he'll say the first thing that pops into his head, then you'll say the first thing whatever he said makes you think of. I once did this with a friend for 2 hours and it felt like it had been 15 minutes; I hadn't even noticed time. You'll find for a while that as soon as anybody says anything you'll want to reply with a new idea to bounce off of them. This also helps with self-analysation. Instead of having a fleeting uneasy subconscious thought, you're presented clearly with what you feel inside.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5311413 - 02/17/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I didnt read all the responses but... I think if you keep practicing something liek this, you can actually make it become second nature, as your brain becomes accustomed to think that way.

Keep it up man I feel you.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5311482 - 02/17/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like you want LSD. I know you may have had it, but I think you may want to go back to that. That is if you are really interested in the way your brain works, and how to modify it. That chemical can teach you much in that area.

I was thinking "visualization" when I read what you are talking about, but I am not sure if that is what you were looking for. Brainstorming also fits your criteria.

I think your friend is just "in the zone." You can be too, it is just usually we are not always in the zone. I was reading something intersting about the psychology of Flow, very interesting stuff if you have the time to Wikipedia it.


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5312085 - 02/17/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

are you sure you dont smoke pot?


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: jaycecp]
    #5312441 - 02/18/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, boy is it hard, but with everything being connected. The more you try and organize your life, the more everything comes together in a sweet, sweet, muthafucking climax. The more you go with it, the more you get out of it. That is how life is. Take what you can get and enjoy that which is given to you. How often we think our own mind as something so special, just give in to what is, not what should be. When did this little voice in your head gain such authority? The mental cop we have is but a farce. His lessons only lead to less life, usually. That voice can save you sometimes though, so don't forget to listen to your gut, as it is good at avoiding trouble.

Have to agree with the wasted energy, however, friends and family are an indirect channel of energy IMO. They seem to channel that energy back to you in new and more vibrant forms. That is if you give, without expecting to gain. Also, friends that suck energy usually can't give, vampiresque,  :tongue2: And that is where you can tap into the well of infinite energy that is you and all of us. Even when surrounded by people that aren't into it, that is the best. Try and help them but they usually don't want it. :heart::grin:

Hey, Limelight, is that a Rush kinda name or what? I just have to know. Plus, I just have to commend your art again, you seem to drink deep of the well of life. To be in it, is what is fun. And that photo is amazing, you know, you look like Hunter S. One of my favorites! I assume you used Photoshop, right? Cause if not, damn you know how to use light! Also was that a fish eye lens or what? It looks like it. :thumbup:


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Moxemerald]
    #5312930 - 02/18/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I didnt read all the responses but... I think if you keep practicing something liek this, you can actually make it become second nature, as your brain becomes accustomed to think that way.

Keep it up man I feel you.




thanks bro  :sun:

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Sounds like you want LSD. I know you may have had it, but I think you may want to go back to that. That is if you are really interested in the way your brain works, and how to modify it. That chemical can teach you much in that area.

I was thinking "visualization" when I read what you are talking about, but I am not sure if that is what you were looking for. Brainstorming also fits your criteria.

I think your friend is just "in the zone." You can be too, it is just usually we are not always in the zone. I was reading something intersting about the psychology of Flow, very interesting stuff if you have the time to Wikipedia it.




actually, i think youre right. before when i took it, i wasnt aware of this situation, so i didnt do much self introspection, but i should try again.
however, do you think i could be more apt to be led down a bad thought path (bad trip) rather than get out of it, due to this? next time i will take a larger dose. i took 3 hits (prolly like 100ug total). i want a lot more, because i know that definitely wasnt an 'acid experience'


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: jaycecp]
    #5312938 - 02/18/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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id say whatever you can do to keep your brain on a creative task... is something that will increase your brain_speed. stop wasting energy (talking, computer, family, friends, emotions, future, past) and youll get better and be able to do it longer.

the buddhists goal are to maintain a constant hightened awareness and slow down their mind so much its capable of many things. id say you have 2 minds ... commands (which is like brain_speed, making connections with things, intent, purpose, creativity) and you have your pointless thoughts. Those thoughts are what you dont want and the buddhists try and stop the pointless thoughts. both people are doing the same thing yet the buddhists feel that if you can constnatly + completely shutoff your thoughts... it would be easy to get into higthened awareness state because there are no pointless thoughts to block them from getting there. theyed consider it a full-proof plan.

you however dont need to shut off your thoughts to get it... it just helps and keeps you there longer. Also, shutting off your thoughts has some additional benefits that are only evident when shutting down your thoughts...regardless of your brain speed.

what that guy said about being in 'the zone' (non-adrenaline enduced) and flow. those are what im talking about to. i used to get them quite often by doing chores without stopping for like 30 minutes. you have to stop your useless thoughts...those are the ones that keep you up at night and keep you from doing your to-do list and you clumsy + akward + all that.

its a motherfucker goal to acheive. especially if your hooked. im hooked... i basically live my life around getting and staying in 'the zone' and 'flow' for as much of my life as possible. yet its a motherfucker of a goal but i <3 it. I love it more than anything... but its a mothafuck.




could you please elaborate on the part about friends and family and stuff? i dont get what youre saying really. mecreateme agreed with you, and i still dont really understand.

you make a good point too, about the types of thoughts.
basically im in the boat where i can have a neverending train of random thoughts which all link. its just background noise though about my past, introspection, scenarios, things that happened or will happen, dumb things people have said and so on.

what i want to do is transpose this sea of thoughts to the side with a purpose, so it would be useful in conversation and whatnot.

sometimes though, im just generally not interested in stuff to go think-crazy about it.  :crazy:


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: mecreateme]
    #5312950 - 02/18/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Yeah, boy is it hard, but with everything being connected. The more you try and organize your life, the more everything comes together in a sweet, sweet, muthafucking climax. The more you go with it, the more you get out of it. That is how life is. Take what you can get and enjoy that which is given to you. How often we think our own mind as something so special, just give in to what is, not what should be. When did this little voice in your head gain such authority? The mental cop we have is but a farce. His lessons only lead to less life, usually. That voice can save you sometimes though, so don't forget to listen to your gut, as it is good at avoiding trouble.

Have to agree with the wasted energy, however, friends and family are an indirect channel of energy IMO. They seem to channel that energy back to you in new and more vibrant forms. That is if you give, without expecting to gain. Also, friends that suck energy usually can't give, vampiresque,  :tongue2: And that is where you can tap into the well of infinite energy that is you and all of us. Even when surrounded by people that aren't into it, that is the best. Try and help them but they usually don't want it. :heart::grin:

Hey, Limelight, is that a Rush kinda name or what? I just have to know. Plus, I just have to commend your art again, you seem to drink deep of the well of life. To be in it, is what is fun. And that photo is amazing, you know, you look like Hunter S. One of my favorites! I assume you used Photoshop, right? Cause if not, damn you know how to use light! Also was that a fish eye lens or what? It looks like it. :thumbup:




Thanks for the kind words (about the well)  :sun:

my name is actually from The Electric Koolaid Acid Test (story of how acid gained its popularity). Often throughout the book (if you havent, you must!), it talks about "the limelight ::::::::: limelight :: the limelight" I believe its part of his stream of consciousness while tripping. I just really liked it. speaking of names, how do you pronounce yours? is it me-cree-ate-me or mec-re-ot-a-me

haha and yes, the photo. ivegotten quite a few comments about that heh. i took that outside. i edited it slightly with photoshop. all i did was increase the contrast so it has more vibrant colors. however if you had the money (which i dont) you could do that with a variety of filters and techniques to achieve cool effects(like cross processing would look interesting). infrared is also really cool! (both b&w and color IR). and its not a fisheye, just a weird angle  :thumbup:


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Re: what do you think? (Question about the mind/thoughts + psychedelics) [Re: Limelight]
    #5312961 - 02/18/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ah! i found a great way to put it.. i was reading on wikipedia about "flow" .. and this is exactly what i would like to happen

"A loss of the feeling of self-consciousness, the merging of action and awareness.

Usually, im aware of my efforts, and that in itself is energy taken away from my ability to attend to the very efforts i am analyzing. then ill realize THAT, and it will go up another level, then ill zone in and snap out of it again. I often have a problem with this.. its almost like im detached.


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