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OfflineDICK
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feeling balsy
    #5307994 - 02/16/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well i was reading through the site on wbs and other cultivation methods when i though.. why not just go for it?? im still a newbie but i read this article using wbs with a pictorial and it looked very very easy...(plus i have a lc that i have 'doubts' on just sitting there) my question though is that im lacking a pc... will this be a problem or could i just go for steam sterilizing?


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: DICK]
    #5308014 - 02/16/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

not with grain stick to rice till you get a pc, or pasturize poo or straw to spawn your cakes to.


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: DICK]
    #5308018 - 02/16/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

NO, you need a PC  :wink:

But some have positive luck with a process that I for get it's name cause I have not need it but it is something like Fractal Sterilization or something. A stepping process low heat cool low heat cool, sort of thing, END spores are the issue.



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Re: feeling balsy [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5308037 - 02/16/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ahh poo, straw...! i just have a couple of bucks for seed... and yea i know what you mean snaggle... its when you steam sterilize over a period of 2-3 days.

sigh... i just have the rest of the day off and dont really feel like going out tonight... i have to do something more than just get brainwashed with the tube!


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: DICK]
    #5308051 - 02/16/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A PC is the singular most expensive thing that you need, after you get one it's down hill.

Save up the penny's but $180 is not that bad for AAPC 925


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5308073 - 02/16/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

An AAPC is not necessary, I have mirro brand pc's wal mart sells them for 40 bucks, I have 4 of those, everyone talks about how much you can fit in an AAPC but with 4 smaller pc's I can fit 12 quart jars for the same money...


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: djsage420]
    #5308214 - 02/16/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

eBay. You don't need something brand-new and shiney to get the job done right.


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Re: feeling balsy [Re: DICK]
    #5308456 - 02/16/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A PC wouldn't be a bad investment. But if you're set on not buying one, just do cakes and use them as spawn. I've spawned PF cakes to straw with excellent results.

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Re: feeling balsy [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5308531 - 02/16/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Snaggletooth said:
NO, you need a PC  :wink:

But some have positive luck with a process that I for get it's name cause I have not need it but it is something like Fractal Sterilization or something. A stepping process low heat cool low heat cool, sort of thing, END spores are the issue.



Someone will correct me :grin:




You're thinking of tyndallization also referred to as fractional sterilization.  I've not used this process myself because I have nice big PC that I got on ebay for a good deal.

The jist of this is that you boil your jars for 30 min, sit for 24, boil for 30 min, sit for 24, and then boil for 1hr and then let cool and inject.

Basically the idea behind this is that you'll kill of what you can, and then when you let it sit, you're allowing resistant endospores to germinate and making them more susceptible to be killed in the next boiling.


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