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No 'Thinking'
    #5306220 - 02/16/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It should be obvious that language is a construction that is to represent a specific value, meaning. Language is a reference to aspects of reality. I would theorize that our usage of language, as human beings, is to such an extent that the majority of ourselves constantly think thoughts that are in our language's format, so to speak. When we are in moments where we focus upon what it is that our minds are generating, we probably hear words and sentences.

I sometimes question whether or not our mind actually "operates" by such language, if you know what I mean. I think that we feel compelled to share are experiences and our thoughts in order to validate them, to make them "real", and our mind does this by means of language, exactly what it would use to communicate with others.

But who is it that we are attempting to share our thoughts and our experiences with? Who experiences these representations of conscious thought? "I am physically exhausted and I have one more night of work ahead of me, but I feel compelled to remain awake". Who are we addressing?

Ourselves? Probably not. We already know the state within which we exist - we are currently existing within it. We do not have a need to translate that which we are concerning ourselves with into a language of representation for the purposes of communicating to others in order for ourselves to know and understand, or to function. It isn't necessary, and it removes us from our direct experience and being.

So, then, what is the deal? I think it is our mind's attempts to communicate with our consciousness. You know, our awareness. That presence that is experiencing our state of being, that silent observer who remains the only constant among the constant fluctulations of sensory input and thoughts.

I think it is the result of our limited understanding of our conscious awareness that we feel the need to communicate with it as we would with strangers that we designate as external and seperate from ourselves. Its awareness - its aware of every aspect of our state of being, the culmination of our experience. It isn't seperate, it is ourselves. The more we become self-realized, the more we understand the nature of awareness, and the more our mind relaxes with the useless attempts to communicate, thus, the more we become present within life and our experience, perhaps? :mushroom2:

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Re: No 'Thinking' [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5306257 - 02/16/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I kinda feel its is simply a way for our minds to control the direction of our consciouness. I mean if I weren't to add words to my thoughts then they would bounce around uncontrollably, first here then next on something totally alien to the intial thought. My consiousness is constantly aware of the conddition I am in, I don't have toactively translate for it. I do need to however provide it with some solidity so as to prevent it from beahving like water. I think words provide the structure neseccary to me so that logical and viable thought progressions take place.


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Re: No 'Thinking' [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5307657 - 02/16/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you are talking to your conscious, what tells you right from wrong.  The voice of God if you believe in that stuff :wink:


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Re: No 'Thinking' [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5307765 - 02/16/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
It should be obvious that language is a construction that is to represent a specific value, meaning. Language is a reference to aspects of reality. I would theorize ....

But who is it that we are attempting to share our thoughts and our experiences with? Who experiences these representations of conscious thought? "I am physically exhausted and I have one more night of work ahead of me, but I feel compelled to remain awake". Who are we addressing?

... It isn't necessary, and it removes us from our direct experience and being.

So, then, what is the deal? ...




birdsong is both beautiful and may yet communicate more than just "I am just like you" - though that message in itself is quite enough of a message.

all day we are dreaming of our song with various members of our inner family while we think, while we compose sequences to suit the occasion.

language gives us routines and methods with which to wrap up our bouquets of mental images so we can share them in human birdsong.

as to whether this is necessary to do at all times or not is not easy to judge, and not easy to circumvent either. Nice to unwind it on a regular basis, but grand to be part of as well.


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