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WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated
    #5305927 - 02/16/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This is indescribable.....


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Frank Gaffney

February 13, 2006


How would you feel if, in the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government had decided to contract out airport security to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the country where most of the operational planning and financing of the attacks occurred? My guess is you, like most Americans, would think it a lunatic idea, one that could clear the way for still more terror in this country. You probably would want to know who on earth approved such a plan ? and be determined to prevent it from happening.

Of course, no such thing occurred after September 11, 2001. In fact, the job of keeping our planes and the flying public secure was deemed to be so important that the government itself took it over from private contractors seen as insufficiently rigorous in executing that responsibility.

Now, however, four-and-a-half years later, a secretive government committee has decided to turn over the management of six of the Nation's most important ports ? in New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Miami, Baltimore and New Orleans ? to Dubai Ports World following the UAE company's purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., which previously had the contract.

This is not the first time this interagency panel ? called the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) ? has made an astounding call about the transfer of control of strategically sensitive U.S. assets to questionable purchasers. In fact, as of last summer, CFIUS had, since its creation in 1988, formally rejected only one of 1,530 transactions submitted for its review.

Such a record is hardly surprising given that the committee is chaired by the Treasury Department, whose institutional responsibilities include promoting foreign investment in the United States. Treasury has rarely seen a foreign purchase of American assets that it did not like. And this bias on the part of the chairman of CFIUS has consistently skewed the results of the panel's deliberations in favor of approving deals, even those opposed by other, more national security-minded departments.

Thanks to the secrecy with which CFIUS operates, it is not clear at this writing whether any such objection was heard with respect to the idea of contracting out management of six of our country's most important ports to a UAE company. There would certainly appear to be a number of grounds for rejecting this initiative, however:


America's seaports have long been recognized by homeland security experts as among our most vulnerable targets. Huge quantities of cargo move through them every day, much of it of uncertain character and provenance, nearly all of it inadequately monitored. Matters can only be made worse by port managers who might conspire to bring in dangerous containers, or simply look the other way when they arrive.


Entrusting information about key U.S. ports ? including, presumably, government-approved plans for securing them, to say nothing of the responsibility for controlling physical access to these facilities, to a country known to have been penetrated by terrorists is not just irresponsible. It is recklessly so.


At the risk of being politically incorrect, the proposed new management will also complicate the job of assuring that the personnel working in these ports pose no threat to their operations ? or to the rest of us. To the extent that we must remain particularly vigilant about young male Arab nationals as potential terrorists, it makes no sense to provide legitimate grounds for such individuals to be in and around some of this country's most important strategic assets.


Of particular concern must be the implications for energy security as a very large proportion of the Nation's oil imports come through the Atlantic and Gulf State ports that the UAE company hopes to take over. For example, Philadelphia alone handles some 85% of the oil coming into the East Coast; New Orleans is responsible for one-seventh of all of our imported energy.


Given such considerations, the question occurs: How could even a stacked deck like the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States find it possible to approve the Dubai Ports World's transaction?

Could it have been influenced by the fact that a former senior official of the UAE company, David Sanborn, was recently named the new administrator of the Transportation Department's Maritime Administration? Until recently, Sanborn was DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.

Or is it because the U.S. government views ? and is determined to portray ? the United Arab Emirates as a vital ally in this war for the Free World? A similar determination has long caused Washington to treat Saudi Arabia as a valued friend, even as the Saudis continue playing a double game whereby they work simultaneously to repress terrorism at home and abet it abroad.

Whatever the explanation, the Nation can simply no longer afford to have the disposition of strategic assets ? including those that have a military or homeland security dimension ? determined by a Treasury-dominated panel whose deliberations and decisions are made in secret without congressional oversight.

Congress should see to it that the United Arab Emirates is not entrusted with the operation of any American ports, and that the Treasury Department is stripped of the lead role in evaluating such dubious foreign investments in the United States.


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Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., is President of the Center for Security Policy and a columnist for the Washington Times.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5307192 - 02/16/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Who comprises this "Committe on Foriegn Investments in the United States" ???

This is absurd


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5309600 - 02/17/06 06:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Of course the spin doctors find nothing wrong, with giving our nationial security away to foriegn nationials.....I wonder how many American private security corporations work in Chinia??


White House Defends Port Sale to Arab Co.


By TED BRIDIS and DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writers


WASHINGTON


The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports.

Lawmakers asked the White House to reconsider its earlier approval of the deal.

The sale to state-owned Dubai Ports World was "rigorously reviewed" by a U.S. committee that considers security threats when foreign companies seek to buy or invest in American industry, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones said.

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, run by the Treasury Department, reviewed an assessment from U.S. intelligence agencies. The committee's 12 members agreed unanimously the sale did not present any problems, the department said.

"We wanted to look at this one quite closely because it relates to ports," Stewart Baker, an assistant secretary in the Homeland Security Department, told The Associated Press. "It is important to focus on this partner as opposed to just what part of the world they come from. We came to the conclusion that the transaction should not be halted."

The unusual defense of the secretive committee, which reviews hundreds of such deals each year, came in response to criticism about the purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.

The world's fourth-largest ports company runs commercial operations at shipping terminals in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.

Four senators and three House members asked the administration Thursday to reconsider its approval. The lawmakers contended the UAE is not consistent in its support of U.S. terrorism-fighting efforts.

"The potential threat to our country is not imagined, it is real," Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., said in a House speech.

The Homeland Security Department said it was legally impossible under the committee's rules to reconsider its approval without evidence DP World gave false information or withheld vital details from U.S. officials. The 30-day window for the committee to voice objections has ended.

DP World said it had received all regulatory approvals.

"We intend to maintain and, where appropriate, enhance current security arrangements," the company said in a statement. "It is very much business as usual for the P&O terminals" in the United States.

In Dubai, the UAE's foreign minister described his country as an important U.S. ally but declined to respond directly to the concerns expressed in Washington.

"We have worked very closely with the United States on a number of issues relating to the combat of terrorism, prior to and post Sept. 11," Sheik Abdullah Bin Zayed al-Nahyan told The Associated Press.

U.S. lawmakers said the UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components sent to Iran, North Korea and Libya by a Pakistani scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan. They also said the UAE was one of only three countries to recognize the now-toppled Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government.

The State Department describes the UAE as a vital partner in the fight against terrorism. Dubai's own ports have participated since last year in U.S. efforts to detect illegal shipments of nuclear materials.

Rep. Vito Fossella, R-N.Y., urged congressional hearings on the deal.

"At a time when America is leading the world in the war on terrorism and spending billions of dollars to secure our homeland, we cannot cede control of strategic assets to foreign nations with spotty records on terrorism," Fossella said.

Critics also have cited the UAE's history as an operational and financial base for the hijackers who carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"Outsourcing the operations of our largest ports to a country with a dubious record on terrorism is a homeland security and commerce accident waiting to happen," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "The administration needs to take another look at this deal."

Separately, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said Thursday it will conduct its own review of the deal and urged the government to defend its decision.

In a letter to the Treasury Department, Port Authority chairman Anthony Coscia said the independent review by his agency was necessary "to protect its interests."

The lawmakers pressing the White House to reconsider included Sens. Schumer, Tom Coburn, R-Okla., Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., and Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Reps. Foley, Fossella and Chris Shays, R-Conn.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5309614 - 02/17/06 06:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What will be next?

Handing over control of our missile silos to Al-Queda?


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: gregorio]
    #5309679 - 02/17/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I dont see why there is no outrage about this issue in the United States?

What is the point of all of this, You mean to tell me that no American security agency has the capability to do this?

I just doesnt make sense to outsource this type of shit!!!


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5309690 - 02/17/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am with you completely. It seems to almost border on treason in my opinion. We send soldiers off to Iraq so we will be fighting the terrorist over there instead of over here, and then they turn around and do something like this.

I really do not know what to think about it. That second link listed some of the congressmen who are trying to fight this. I don't know, some people might think it is a waste of time but contact them and your own congressmen and raise hell. It might not do any good but at least you can say we tried.

It's like I said above. What is next? Are we going to hand over control of our missile silos over to Al-Queda next?

I am almost at a lost of words over this one.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: gregorio]
    #5309852 - 02/17/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You know the US congress it fucked up, when Hiliary leads this fight!!!

My God, this is keeps getting more dumbfounding!

Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal
Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:40 AM ET

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By Jeremy Pelofsky
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. Democratic senators said on Friday they would introduce legislation aimed at blocking Dubai Ports World from buying a company that operates several U.S. shipping ports because of security concerns.

Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York said they would offer a measure to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations.

"We wouldn't turn the border patrol or the customs service over to a foreign government, and we can't afford to turn our ports over to one either," Menendez said in a statement.

P&O, the company Dubai Ports World plans to buy for $6.8 billion, is already foreign-owned but the concern is that the purchaser is backed by the United Arab Emirates government.

The UAE company would gain control over the management of major U.S. ports in New York and New Jersey, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New Orleans and Miami, sparking national security concerns.

"I will be working with Senator Menendez to introduce legislation that will prohibit the sale of ports to foreign governments," Clinton said in a statement.

Officials with the United Arab Emirates Embassy in Washington could not be immediately reached for comment.

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a U.S. inter-agency panel that reviews security implications of foreign takeovers of strategic assets, has already reviewed the transaction and did not object.

Despite that review, some Republicans and Democrats in the U.S. Congress urged the Bush administration to conduct a more rigorous review. They expressed fears that the UAE was used as a conduit for parts used for nuclear proliferation and that the local banking system had been abused by financiers with possible links to terrorist organizations.

U.S. officials have said the UAE has been a solid and cooperative partner in the fight against terrorism, and have praised the UAE for steps to protect its booming financial sector against abuse by terrorism financiers.

Money for the September 11 attacks was wired through the UAE's banking system, according to U.S. officials. Two of the September 11 hijackers were UAE citizens. Continued ...

? Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: gregorio]
    #5309864 - 02/17/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wrote my representatives on Tuesday. Still waiting for a reply.

Here's my letter:

Quote:

I am at a total loss for words over the stupidity that has recently taken place. What in the good lord's name is going on here? How can it possibly even be considered to allow a company in the UAE to purchase a company responsible for the security of some of our most important ports?

Are these people on drugs? Do you all just get drunk and sit around smoking rocks and laughing at how much this once great nation is getting fucked up?

I don't know if you're on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, but I fully expect you to virulently oppose this. I also expect that you will bring this to the attention of your fellow congressmen and start or join any efforts to stop this acquisition.

Please respond in a timely manner outlining your stance on this issue, and let me know if you plan on taking any action.

Thank you for your time.




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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? [Re: daimyo]
    #5309933 - 02/17/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i think its pretty obvious that we don't actually REALLY want to prevent terrorism in America, we just want it to appear that way to those who watch television.

though it would be a good idea to not use those airports if this goes through.


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Edited by leery11 (02/17/06 09:58 AM)


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5309993 - 02/17/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

at first i was like WTF!!!

but from what i understand

1. the Feds run Port Security

2.and a foreign company has been running Port Operations.

3. now that foreign company has sold its operations to another foreign company.



what i don't understand is why an American company does not run the operations.

and IMO its a bad idea for the federal government (union) to run port operations. ( i am sure thats what that cunt Hillary wants)


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5310486 - 02/17/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:


what i don't understand is why an American company does not run the operations.

and IMO its a bad idea for the federal government (union) to run port operations.





I think it a great example of America's commitment to the free market. A certain degree of protectionism is required to protect national security, mainly in the form of assurance of supply and defence interests. However I am sure those concerns have been very carefully examined, especially in this case.


Edited by psilomonkey (02/17/06 01:41 PM)


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: psilomonkey]
    #5311053 - 02/17/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

psilomonkey stated:
I think it a great example of America's commitment to the free market

Call me racist but I do not trust the UAE.

I am sure other country's, make it a president to have their own nationals engage in this type of activity.

How about giving more jobs to Americans?


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5311964 - 02/17/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
How about giving more jobs to Americans?




I am starting to wonder if we are too stupid or lazy to do anything anymore.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5312727 - 02/18/06 04:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
psilomonkey stated:


Call me racist but I do not trust the UAE.





There is nothing racist about it. The UAE does have a record of terrorist activities.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5312912 - 02/18/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:

I am sure other country's, make it a president to have their own nationals engage in this type of activity.

How about giving more jobs to Americans?




I am sure almost all the staff working at those ports are American. They just work for a company owned by an interest in the UAE.

I would expect countries that export a lot of oil to the US have sizable interests in US based assets. After all they get a huge stack of dollars every year for that oil, a lot of those dollars are used to invest back in the US. This has the advantage of creating the powerhouse economy the US benefits from, however it does mean that a lot of it is going to end up being owned by foreign powers.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: psilomonkey]
    #5313067 - 02/18/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Or maybe its a reaction to the possibility that gasoline will not be needed in twenty years....trying to diversify before the end.

FUCK THEM.

Price gouging Arabs in dirty nightshirts.

I come from the adage that the best way to promote Americas economic and social well being IS TO HAVE AMERICANS WORK

This country was founded on hard work. (and slavery unfortunately)

When we have government officials that are willing to outsource our security and work at the same time they can also FUCK THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5329751 - 02/22/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What a story this is turning out to be.....This is one piece of news I am happy to have uncovered


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5330010 - 02/22/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Because obviously, any country within 2,000 miles of Afghanistan is run by terrorists.

Complete racist bullshit. I can see someone saying that we shouldn't sell such matters over to foreign powers, yet we've been doing it for a while with China and no one cared. It's only when you sell it to an Arab country that issues arise, eh?


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: Ravus]
    #5330022 - 02/22/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Because obviously, any country within 2,000 miles of Afghanistan is run by terrorists.

Complete racist bullshit. I can see someone saying that we shouldn't sell such matters over to foreign powers, yet we've been doing it for a while with China and no one cared. It's only when you sell it to an Arab country that issues arise, eh?



Agreed. This is a non-issue, IMO.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK? **Updated [Re: Silversoul]
    #5331542 - 02/23/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What about Oman? Or Yemen? Saudi Arabia? Terrorism hot spots.


Just because I dont want a foreign company, owning some of our ports doesn't mean I am racist. It means I think that a AMERICA should do this


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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