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Nirvana7
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been really high, wanna trip. please help
#5305586 - 02/16/06 05:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok, before i start i just wanna say that i know this topic might have been posted before but i want an answer specific to my situation, thanks. ok, basically this is whats up, 7-8 months ago i actually got HIGH off of weed for the first time and sense then have done it quite a few times and i love it. recently my friend and i came into some really good weed, dank i think is what its called (basically it was higher on the weed "chart" than hydro), and we got really high off of it several times before it was gone and on several occasions i would say to myself "i wish i had some shrooms to do right now" and continue to think that it would be a good idea to do shrooms at that level of being high. now i may have been lied to about the dankness of the weed but i dont know about that. do you think that its a good idea for me to try shrooms whilst that high. some factors to consider are as follows
1.) i have slight anxiety sometimes (i got it over christmas when i almost had an anxiety attack but its been going away and is almost gone now....tap*)
2.) ive been wanting to do shrooms for about a year and a half now and have read up on everything to do with shrooms, ive done my homework and then some.
3.) i have a REAL DESIRE to do the shrooms when i get that high and have had a desire to do them for a while, i only stopped wanting to do them when i had my bad anxiety
4.) my friend can incapacitate me if i freak out so that im knocked out not freaked out (worst case scenario)
so basically thats it. the biggest issue is the anxiety, but like i said, if worst comes to worst ill just have my friend knock me out. thanks for sticking with me on this post if your still reading.
oh, one more question....if your already really stoned do you basically skip that part of the coming up or do you get even more stoned?
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Chikitta
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5305647 - 02/16/06 06:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you've never tried mushrooms before, I'd suggest doing them on their own instead of munching them while blazed.
On their own, I rarely have problems with mushrooms. When combined with weed however, I get more anxious, more paranoid, more restless. It makes the trip more intense, but not always in a good way.
So to answer your question - "do you think that its a good idea for me to try shrooms whilst that high?", my answer would be no.
And I was under the impression dank was the name given to shit quality weed.
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Nirvana7
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Chikitta]
#5305684 - 02/16/06 06:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea, thats what i was trying to constru by calling in dank. thanks for the advice though. maybe ill just stick with weed
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5305753 - 02/16/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you feel you have a problem with anxiety and that it made you have second thoughts about tripping then id recommend not doing so until you feel relaxed and at ease with your surroundings.
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my friend can incapacitate me if i freak out so that im knocked out not freaked out (worst case scenario)
He wont just be hitting u over the head with shovel or something right? If you feel your trip is becoming to intense, try taking a Benzodiazepine (Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan; if you can fine some), from my experience they can significantly reduce, if not completely remove anxiety from tripping, among other things.
If your going to trip for your first time id imagine you would be taking a small dose, maybe 1 gram, this will give you threshold effects which will cause some anxiety type feelings but imo, nothing difficult to handle.
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thedudenj
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Abrainspot]
#5305867 - 02/16/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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DMT or Mescline are alot easier to obtain and pretty good i like em just as much as shrooms and somtimes more
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: thedudenj]
#5305926 - 02/16/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: DMT or Mescline are alot easier to obtain and pretty good i like em just as much as shrooms and somtimes more
^^That has little to do with this thread.
Anyhow. Nirvana: no go on the marijuana. Read trip reports and you will definitely see a correlation to smoking cannabis during the trip and things turning a little *too* intense/scary.
I really don't even see how you are considering it. If you want to try shrooms for the first time, please respect them and experience them alone- they are surely capable of doing the job. If, after using and experiencing and understanding shroomies some more (which only truly comes with experience) you decide to try smoking some -then of course fine.
But you've never shroomed, so relax and enjoy them... by themselves.
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dblaney
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5306090 - 02/16/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with the other posters. If it's your first time, try mushrooms by themselves just to get a feel for the territory. If you have issues with anxiety, psychedelics do have the potential to make it worse, so keep that in mind.
my friend can incapacitate me if i freak out so that im knocked out not freaked out (worst case scenario)
A really bad experience by itself has the potential to cause PTSD. Seeing your friend attack you and knock you unconscious would only add to that risk. Benzos will greatly reduce any anxiety, however they will do so at the expense of taking away any possibility of working through psychological or philosophical issues.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: dblaney]
#5306594 - 02/16/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha dude.. Having someone knock you out? Fuck that.
I suppose you you mean physically incapacitating you, correct? I think that would be absolutely horrible. If you start out your first time on a low does (which you should) there won't be anything that is so hard to handle that would warrant being knocked out. All I can say is that mushrooms are not like weed like weed is not like alcohol like alcohol is not like being sober. Its just so so so so different.
Hope all goes well if you decide to try them, but take a small amount to avoid the anxiety problems, or atleast minimize them.
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Hey, I just realized I have read from you before. You talked about that you had some mushrooms, or were about to buy some, but didn't have anywhere to take them. You were considering going to a park at night, or some dude's house with freaky statues.. Whatever happened with that?
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5306619 - 02/16/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The main difficulty I have while on mushrooms is that it can get too overwhelming. That can't really happen with weed, or at least not the same way or intensity.
You have to be able to just relax, even if everything is really overwhelming or you're just getting 'sensory overload'.
The key is to be able to be relaxed in any situation, no matter what thoughts come to your mind. If you can do that you're set.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5307175 - 02/16/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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do what i did my first trip, 1.75 grams, some good music and a great attitude and you'll kick back and learn from there.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: PreparationH]
#5307732 - 02/16/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahah, man ive never heard of someone allowing another friend to blow their grill out while shrooming if they get out of hand.
what if you only SEEM to be freaking out to your shrooming buddy, but really its all in HIS mind?????? the fact u gave him permission would drive him to do actually do it too.
man tell him he is not to do that under any circumstance, do you understand the psychological damage that could cause you? have someone around that is able to speak softly and kindly to you and assure you that everything will be just fine and that is only a drug and you will be normal again.
violence is never the answer with someone freaking on psychedelics.
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Nirvana7
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Mushroom_Mike]
#5308191 - 02/16/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok, ok. alot to think about. i know that smoking weed intensifies the trip alot, i only considered it because of the stress realiaving quailities it posseses. i do think i have the ability to just laugh it off in an intense trip situation. and about that ALMOST trip in the park or dudes house with the weird statue....of course that didnt happen. at that time i couldnt get the shrooms and i think maybe its because they knew about the anxiety i was going to experience a few months later. as for the whole friend knock me out thing, thats just somthing to put my mind at ease. i dont think it would come to that. i do respect the shrooms because i know they can either kick your ass or pick your ass up and through you to heaven.
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Nirvana7
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5308197 - 02/16/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha, ok ok, i know that was a bad idea. but like i said. that was just somthing i could think about if i start to have a bad trip, you know like "oh shit im freakin out man....wait if i freak out he can just knock me out so theres no reason to freak out."
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5308238 - 02/16/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes like us aid it would amke the trip more intense which would make u freak out even more not calm you down. You said u could laugh stuff off but if you are truly tripping you are incapable of doing it cause you arent in the right mind to realize its just a though and not true. When im having a strong trip i believe 100% whatever comes to mind. For example say while you are tripping your friend might ask you how your feeling. While this is him just starting conversation you might sttart thinking "uh oh i bet he thinks im freaking out...hes gonna knock me out to be safe" Then you start thinking of reasons why he might think taht and all of them will make complete sense even though its really all your imagination. Then youll spend the rest of the trip worrying about how your friends gonna hit you over the head when your not looking. The thought that your just tripping will never enter your mind adn if it does you wont believe it
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Nirvana7
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: DeathCompany]
#5308261 - 02/16/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well im not gonna have him knock me out anymore for one thing and yes, if i do shrooms it will be without weed. but i think even if i think the trip is real ill just tell myself the worst that can happen is death and shrug it off. also i didnt want to post three times in a row so i waited to say somthing but right now its like i can feel the shrooms calling me, like up till now i wasnt ready and somthing happend to make me finally be ready for the shrooms? has anyone else experienced that?
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dblaney
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: Nirvana7]
#5308271 - 02/16/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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An old hippie trick is to have your friend roll you up in a carpet and sit on it. Though I can't imagine that would be any more pleasant than being knocked out.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: dblaney]
#5308288 - 02/16/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yuoll see uts a little harder to shrug it off hwne your tripping cause you actually believe it
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: DeathCompany]
#5308399 - 02/16/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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?dank? means its good shit but isn?t any kind of real category. Hydro is the way the plant is grown, Hydroponic (in water). It means the plant is getting its nutrients from the water and not from the soil. It could be normal chemical hydroponic nutrients or hydro-organic nutrients. You cant really say one is better then the other, they all have their purpose. When I was younger someone tried to tell me one time "dank" meant that the plant had been grown using co2 supplementation. Which, again can be incorporated in either traditional soil or hydroponics systems. Generally the way a plant is grown does not affect its potency. Potency is a function of genetics. The way you grow the plant influences yield.
Your tonal is very young and unaware. You have much to learn before you start using power plants to shift your assemblage point.
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Nirvana7
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5311091 - 02/17/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i know more than you think equilibrium, i agree that the post wasnt worded perfectly but i do have some experience. anyway im not mixing shrooms with weed. i might do them alone if they present themselves to me sometime though.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: EquilibriuM]
#10962292 - 08/29/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dank around here (texas) generally refers to any bud worth 20/g. Also called chronic sometimes.
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Re: been really high, wanna trip. please help [Re: bobby177]
#10962474 - 08/29/09 05:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cannabis tends to sway a Psilocybin trip in an unclear direction. However it does make the OEV's and CEV's more pronounced, but at the same time makes the trip confusing or can increase paranoia from Cannabis anxiety.
If it's your first mushroom experience I would only advise smoking once you're at baseline, and have came down from the mushrooms completely. Usually at about the 6-8 hour mark, and after that if you smoke it will extend your trip for another couple of hours. It is always how I did it, even when I first started shroomin'
Also, when you wait until the end of your trip, it gives you something to look forward to. The end becomes very euphoric, and once you get there you almost feel a sense of accomplishment. Especially after you hit that joint.
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