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You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!"
    #5305321 - 02/16/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He Tried To Cut Off His Mom's Face And Eat Her Eyes, But He's OK For Society

News Edition: 02/04/2006

MICHIGAN-- State psychiatrists say a Troy man who bludgeoned and mutilated his mother to death in 2000 should be released from an institution, placed in a group home and eventually returned to the community because his mental illness is in remission.
Oakland County prosecutors, however, plan to fight his release at a hearing Wednesday.

James Yang, 30, was found not guilty by reason of insanity in Oakland County Circuit Court in 2001 after he beat his mother, Kazuyo Yang, 58, to death with a chair leg, crowbar, hammer and iron weights in their Troy home. He used a hacksaw to cut off her face and then ate her eyes.

Yang, who has schizophrenia, has spent the last two years under psychiatric care at the Caro Regional Mental Health Center in the western Thumb. Doctors there determined in November that he has improved enough to begin assimilating back into the community. An independent committee of doctors at the state's Center for Forensic Psychiatry in Ypsilanti that is charged with reviewing such cases agrees and has recommended that Yang be allowed to leave the mental hospital.

"Yes, he couldn't have committed a worse crime," his attorney, Scott Neumann, said Wednesday. "But the question is: What do you do with him? Do you penalize him forever? The community would say, 'Yes, lock him up forever.' But he is not a danger, and under the law, he will eventually be released."

A hearing on the matter will be held in Tuscola County Probate Court in Caro on Wednesday, although the jurisdiction of the case remains in Oakland County. Lisa Ortlieb, Oakland County assistant prosecutor, said her office will fight the release.

"It's unbelieveable," Ortlieb said. "This is a man who brutally, brutally murdered his mother. What's to keep him from going off his medicine and harming another person?"

The judge will ultimately decide, although judges generally follow the recommendations of experts. Prosecutors are expected to ask the court to allow them to have Yang evaluated by their own psychiatrists.

Yang will be placed by Oakland's Community Mental Health Authority in a supervised group home with others recovering from mental illness and will not be allowed to leave or be left unattended. If he remains well, he will eventually, with doctors' approval, be allowed to live on his own.

The killing shocked police officers who arrived at the Yang home on May 1, 2000.

Yang, according to reports, was clearly in a psychotic state and could not tell police his name or whether he was a man or a woman. He believed his mother was the devil. Police at first could not determine her gender because her body was so badly mutiliated.

Eric Hufnagel, chief executive officer of the National Schizophrenia Foundation, based in Lansing, said statistics show people who suffer from the disease are no more violent than the general public. Violence among those with schizophrenia is more likely to occur soon after patients are released from the hospital and if there are substance abuse problems.

"I don't think that it's fair to assume that that is something that is going to repeat itself," he said. "I know of people who committed an act of violence once and never have again."
courtesy of: Detroit Free Press


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5305325 - 02/16/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder what eyeballs taste like. ::Scratches chin::


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5305340 - 02/16/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

this creeps me the fuck out....
what kinda sick fuck would do that? and how can they let him back into society, if anything he should do jail time and get his booty taken


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: eligal]
    #5305358 - 02/16/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah thats fucked.

Its strange how a news story *paints the whole picture* and how there's a bottom line..

I was thinking of saying "i support euthasia in situations like this"..

but for all i know this man, while disgusting for eating his mothers eyes, may be rationally experiencing the rest of his life, perhaps life in prison is more fitting if he's criminal than "sick"


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: PDU]
    #5305366 - 02/16/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yea but i have the feeling its the plead guilty so you dont have to go to jail and in a few months your back on the streets kinda thing.

if anything atleast keep him in a hospital and away from our children though man...


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: eligal]
    #5305400 - 02/16/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Really though, what's a better measure of his mental condition: the doctors who watch him every day, study his behavior, see what triggers his problems, and measure the degree of his illness, or the gut reaction you get to reading about the crime he committed at the height of his illness?

That's the problem with mob rule. Sometimes the most obvious emotional reaction to a crime isn't the most accurate asessment of the situation.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Phluck]
    #5305414 - 02/16/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with phluck.

But damn, there are mushroom growers who'll spend more time in jail than a guy who cut off his mothers face, and proceeded to eat her eyeballs. If he instead decided to do some tests by adding those eyeballs to an experimental substrate, this guy would be locked up for life.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Phluck]
    #5305437 - 02/16/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well said phluck :thumbup:

I can understand the reactions of the rest of you though, but think about the HUGE responsibility these psychiatrists have to let someone who did such a thing back into society! There are many experts judging this case breaking their head over it and if this is the conclusion I believe them. These psychiatrists only do something like this when they are VERY sure about it.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: stefan]
    #5305450 - 02/16/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

right, it isn't a matter of someone slipping through the cracks, as we might be tempted to believe. Whomever this burden of responsibility is being placed on isn't going to make a sloppy decision. Aside from the matter of public safety, you can bet that their careers depend on it.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Phluck]
    #5305599 - 02/16/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
Really though, what's a better measure of his mental condition: the doctors who watch him every day, study his behavior, see what triggers his problems, and measure the degree of his illness, or the gut reaction you get to reading about the crime he committed at the height of his illness?

That's the problem with mob rule. Sometimes the most obvious emotional reaction to a crime isn't the most accurate asessment of the situation.





murder is murder, should mental illness be a deciding factor in how they're punished? I'm of the belief that an intelligent individual can play it off
as insanity and with the courts they even allow temporary insanity pleas,
PMSqualifies in some states.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5305924 - 02/16/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think it has to do with it. Ofcoarse murder is murder, but in this case the person in question coulnd't do anything about it, it was his mental illness that caused his behaviour. So it really wasn't his fault, he didn't have the option to choose for having schizophrenia and a psychosis. You can punish someone, but what's the point if you punish someone for something he couldn't do anyhting about because he has some horrible disorder?

Also faking would be very very hard, close to impossible. There are many tests that are designed for catching faking individuals such in (forensic) psychological cases.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: stefan]
    #5306102 - 02/16/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wish the family had somethig to say


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5306174 - 02/16/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The thing that gets me about it is how it says his schizophrenia is in remission. The definition of remission is "the state of absence of disease activity in patients with known chronic illness", but in his case the disease isn't absent its just being treated with medication. He's still schizophrenic, so what what happens if he forgets, or neglects, to take his medication one day. Unless someone administers it to him every day for the rest of his life he shouldn't be allowed to live on his own. I'd say he should at least be kept in the group home, otherwise hes still potentially dangerous.

It seems to me letting him go would be akin to letting a convicted child molestor live across the street from a playground, or even take care of kids. Of course the child molestor may not do anything, but there's also a good chance that they will, and I sure wouldn't want any kids exposed to that person.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5306180 - 02/16/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I now feel like puking.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5306540 - 02/16/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm right by there and I don't feel we need a psycho fucktwit like that running around in society. Reason #2 why I support the death penalty, and why this guy should have been dragged out back and shot in the head long before this article was written.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: DNKYD]
    #5306704 - 02/16/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Really though, what's a better measure of his mental condition: the doctors who watch him every day, study his behavior, see what triggers his problems, and measure the degree of his illness, or the gut reaction you get to reading about the crime he committed at the height of his illness?"


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5306783 - 02/16/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've got a better measure: Is there a bullet in his head? No? Still sick.... Yes? He's CURED!


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5306893 - 02/16/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like this guy would be a huge liability, I'm surprised they are thinking of eventually letting him go. I believe if it happened once, it can happen again. Granted throwing him in a tiny cell isn't the answer either, but I wouldn't want this guy in my neighborhood.


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: TheDude]
    #5307037 - 02/16/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

wow i fucking hate this country... people can go to jail for years all for supplying a PLANT!!! and other people who have MENTAL ILLNESSES GET LET FREE AFTER CUTTING YOUR OWN MOTHERS FACE OFF AND EATING HER EYEBALLS!!! WWWWWWTTTTTTFFFFFFF

what the hell is the country comming to...


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Re: You cut off her face and ete her eyes? "You sick fuck!" [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5307062 - 02/16/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He should be murdered.


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