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robmac9090
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Asking parents to trip?
#5305124 - 02/15/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm curious to know if anyone has ever invited their non-drug using parents to trip with them before?
I've always thought that my dad would really enjoy doing shrooms, but I am 99.99% sure that he has never tried any drugs before. It is not like his is anti-drug or anything, but I really don't know what is his reaction would be to such an idea.
I guess it comes down to risk vs. reward.
Risk: -he is infuriated at my drug use and disowns me (not likely) -he looses a huge amount of respect for me b/c of my drug use (more likely, but still not very)
Reward: -he thinks about it and agrees, and he has a fantastic time
Any feedback is welcome!
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: robmac9090]
#5305136 - 02/15/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've asked my mother to trip, she tried weed when she was young but didn't like it. She at first actually asked me to get her some peyote if it ever came around but changed her mind. Now all of a sudden she's an anti-drug crusader and it's a little disappointing.
My dad on the other hand has had more than his fill of trips when he was younger and still smokes the occasional herb, I could ask him and he knows I do it, but it would be pointless.
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PDU
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: robmac9090]
#5305140 - 02/15/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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read your dad better..
I am completely open with my parents and talk indepth with my mom about trips and cosmic philosophies.
At somepoint in the future i could possibly see a MDMA trip together, but im less enthusiastic than i was when i was younger (or more understanding of her perspective, and taking into account that it may not be what it is for you.. considering your still growing and developing your perception of the world.)
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robmac9090
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: PDU]
#5305213 - 02/16/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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PDU, can you tell me about the very first conversation you had with your mom about your drug use. Was she suprised, shocked, cool, understanding, angry? How did the conversation start? Sorry for prying, but I'm curious.
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PDU
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: robmac9090]
#5305254 - 02/16/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh shit, i couldnt say...
when i was 15 or 16, i started drinking.. every weekend i would drink a 26 of smirnoff in under an hour, pass out/fall in fires/run into cars/stop breathing and they told me to smoke pot.. So i smoked pot, used to cure insomnia and became dependant upon it, and then got into mushrooms..
First it was pot and huge enthusiasm for it (being especially cocky due to my age, and the permission they granted me.), then it moved onto my philosophical endevors, and helping others and discovering spirituality.. probalby just me explaining my trips and her being a tad concerned yet understanding while talking about the nature of the questions i was asking..
Im fortunate to have very loving and supportive and above all else, understanding parents!
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: PDU]
#5305293 - 02/16/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've thought of this a lot myself. I would never do it unless things were open enough to the point where it wouldn't be hurting anything.
I actually spent a good deal of time trying to figure out which substance would be best. Mushrooms are the ideal psychedelic to me as far as using in more than a recreational way. I think the things it offers are important if you want a parent to respect the psychedelic world. No other chemical offers that as much as psilocybin to me.
But, for an old timer (especially one that hasn't tripped before) there is so much stigma around these things, and so much lies. A bad mushroom trip could give them a permanent bad impression of these things. So what else? Unless they're highly artistic, I think LSD is a bit too recreational and might enforce the "like to get fucked up" attitude a little. Still, some might have a lot of respect for it.
I think the best starter for someone of that age with no good view of our culture would be mescaline or MDMA. The chance of having a bad time is so small for either one. I'd lean towards mescaline, for obvious reasons. Still, if you're trying to acclimate anyone to psychedelics, there is an impossible rough bump that you can never smoothly cross... to me, on the other end of that are things like mushrooms, dmt, dpt, and perhaps 2c-e from what I've read. There's no way to smoothly make the transition from the easier going psychedelics, but it all makes sense once you have. (High doses of acid would easily prepare you for most aspects)
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5305319 - 02/16/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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How open are you with your father, Rob?
What kind of relationship do you have? Do you share similar ideas which would strengthen if you tripped together? Why do you think it would be mutually beneficial? What are you hoping for?
If your interested, you should check out MAPS research - they have a section with reports and commentary on all sorts of shared drugs and ritual between parent and child.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: PDU]
#5305410 - 02/16/06 02:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My dad loves my mushrooms. My parents were the first to offer me weed and liqour. But, I grew up on a farm with hippie parents.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: FungusMan]
#5305487 - 02/16/06 03:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm thinking about asking my mom to smoke with me soon. She's cool with me smoking but claims she used to do it but ended up not liking it. She could use a little time to relax and I think it'd just be funny seeing my forty year old mother rippin' a bong.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: beatnicknick]
#5305518 - 02/16/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd never done marijuana before, and my parents were visiting me in Holland and said something to the effect of "Want to go to a coffeeshop and try some reefers?", so we did.
I don't think they would try mushrooms though, and I have talked to them about it, as I think they might appreciate a low dose of Mexican mushrooms (like 15 grams fresh). They seem to think that mushrooms would be much stronger than marijuana in any dose, but in my experience, this is not always the case, especially with low doses, it's just a very different experience. It usually seems more positive to me.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: robmac9090]
#5305900 - 02/16/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude you know your parents better. I convinced my mom to smoke weed with me and she liked, but I don't think she'll smoke soon again. My dad also smoked with me and he loves it. Concerning the trips, I don't think they'll approve. But then again, who knows?
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5306741 - 02/16/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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just wondering how old are all you people? im 18 and i know my mom would kill me if she new i was doing mushrooms.
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beatnicknick
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5307002 - 02/16/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
MushroomTrip said: Dude you know your parents better. I convinced my mom to smoke weed with me and she liked, but I don't think she'll smoke soon again. My dad also smoked with me and he loves it. Concerning the trips, I don't think they'll approve. But then again, who knows?
It's hard for me to see any parent approving of tripping, whether they know the facts or are propagand induced. I think it'd just be weird to trip with my parents, just strange. I don't need that kind of bonding with my parents, our relationship is alright how it is.
You've got to put yourself in there position also, imagine your son of 18 comes up to you one day after 18 long hard years of raising him and asksyou to go on a wild magical mushroom trip for six hours straight. Even if you do want to, what do you say? Is it so easy to say yes? Will you screw anything up with them?
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: beatnicknick]
#5307101 - 02/16/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think for most kids, 18 is too young for such a thing.
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robmac9090
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5307178 - 02/16/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would say that my father and I have a close relationship. We hang out together alot and I think of him a friend, as well as a dad. I don't know about the similar ideas between the two of us while tripping, but I'm pretty sure that a trip together down at our cabin would be a very memorable and special experience. I'm not really sure what I am hoping for, I just feel like I know about something truly amazing and would like to share it with other people that I care about.
I also like beatnicknick's thought about putting myself in my dad's shoes. I think if my son came up to me and thoughtfully explained what mushrooms were all about and why they are worth doing, I may be convinced to try. However, if my son told me, "We can both get so fucked up and see crazy shit for six hours," I'd beat his ass and tell him to fuckin' smarten up!
I dunno though, maybe somethings just are not meant to be.
Good posts everybody!
Edited by robmac9090 (02/16/06 02:10 PM)
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: robmac9090]
#5307338 - 02/16/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do trip with my father. One day I told him I had some shrooms and he wanted to share. That's how it started.
peace, jim

Rob -- just wanted to add that my father and I have the same relationship, friends and brothers more than father/son.. if you two have that kind of relationship it won't matter whether or not he wants to trip with you, and he won't lose any respect for you. Have a good day!
Edited by jmg5 (02/16/06 02:48 PM)
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: jmg5]
#5307656 - 02/16/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would think tha if you sat down and explained it in a professional manner, and explained that you understood the pros and cons and understood them, that they would be down with it, i dont know if they would do it with you, but i think they would let you do it.... i think you should let them know that you use before asking them to use with them.... take it slow..
hey, its better then them finding a crack rock in your room hahaha
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: beatnicknick]
#5307786 - 02/16/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
beatnicknick said:
You've got to put yourself in there position also, imagine your son of 18 comes up to you one day after 18 long hard years of raising him and asksyou to go on a wild magical mushroom trip for six hours straight. Even if you do want to, what do you say? Is it so easy to say yes? Will you screw anything up with them?
I will be the first to give my son or daughter the first joint, the first booze, and why not something else too? He'll do it anyway, so why shouldn't he do it with me too? We have to beat this old and annoying mentality that doesn't do any good. If I want to be a good parent, which I want, I will have to know my child as well as I can. And knowing somebody through drugs is like knowing a whole new side. So why ignore it? Just because that's what parents use to do now? And tripping with your child, if you have all the "problems" solved with yourself shouldn't screw up anything. This matter must be taken to another level if we want the war on drugs to stop. This is one of the next steps to be taken in order to do it. And of course I prefer that my child to have the first trip with me. Cause if he doesn't do it with me, who knows with what kind of paranoid will he do it? and give him a bad start and bigger problems? At least that way I'll be sure he'll be able to learn something from drugs, not just do it cause it's "fashionable". That's perhaps one of the reasons why I'd like to take psychedelics even once with my parents. Cause I want to break this stupid psychological obstacle that's been going on for ages. And cause it's absolutely necessary to go to another level with the relationship between children and parents.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5307840 - 02/16/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I envy you people and your awesome parental relationships. My parents and I have never been able to communicate. I know my mother has tried marijuana a few times in her younger years, and that it always made her paranoid so she didn't like it. I have no clue about my dad.
In fact, a lot of the scary things i encounter during my psychedelic journeys has to do with my parents finding out all my little secrets.
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Re: Asking parents to trip? [Re: Jfisher]
#5307940 - 02/16/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't always had that kind of relationship with my parents. Since I was like 20 - I'm 22 right now - my mother knew nearly NOTHING about me. I was always hiding from her. Cause she made to. Till that moment I got bored. I got bored of trying so hard around her to be person that I was not. And it suddenly all just seemed STUPID. I got tired (and maybe that was that pint in my life when I was able to fight and win almost all the conflicts I had with myself) of doing that and I started to tell almost anything I did in my life, and boy she was shocked . But she got used to it, and slowly she accepted it. That's the context in which I smoked weed with her. I told her that I want her to see me smoking and that I wanted her to smoke with me cause I don't feel I do something "wrong", and what better proof cold it be than show her? Feel It on her own. Of course she's a little scared right now (cause if the law), but I did it for me, cause I was feeling like suffocating trying to be what I was not. At least now I'm free to be what I am, at any time. And if I'll ever get the chance, I'll trip with her too. Or maybe take a pill, who knows?
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