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oDin
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my turn i guess
#5305060 - 02/15/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm scheduled for a UA Friday after next. just found out today sooooooooo my last toke was Tuesday night. pretty much daily use at nights (chronic) prior to that day.
after reading alot of posts and websites my conclusions are that the vast majority of the products you consume are bogus and act primarily because 1. they are a diuretic 2. you drink alot of water thus diluting the urine.
I'm not sure if i would be clean by the 24th or perhaps a day earlier. i am assuming that daily use would take longer then ~10 days. i work out regularly and i think I'm prolly 5-10lbs over my goal weight. all i know about the test is they are sending me a letter then i have 72 hours to go piss after i receive it and its a UA. thankfully i have a mole at my employer's office. anyway, I'm surprised i have never been tested before. I'm in health care and since i have to goto a place to do the deed I'm going to assume it will be a better than average test in sensitivity.
so after all the reading and suggestions I'm thinking about using urine that is not mine. do they usually observe you piss at most places? thats my main point to the post. with the info i have provided do you think i would need a "special" delivery device for the piss? or just the right temp and dump it in.
thanks for your thoughts
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305084 - 02/15/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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not all places observe you.. but most make you empty your pockets and everything..
so.. best bet is to tape it to your leg or something, i suppose. and, if you can find out from someone else that has been tested through your employer.. that would definately help... it would suck to get there and have no way to use your fake pee because they were watching you..
flushing pot is really pretty easy.. but, probably not worth the risk of trying if you can get 100% clean urine.
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oDin
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: Yoschie99]
#5305093 - 02/15/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hrm
you think i could flush it in 10 days?
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305112 - 02/15/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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start by taking like three b-complex vitamins every morning for about 4 days... then go to one a day. eat eggs or some other high(er) fat, high(er) protein breakfast each day... drink lots of water and juice... on my metabolism i could pull it off...
you have a chance.. but no way to be sure :/
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: Yoschie99]
#5305177 - 02/15/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What good would the water do days before a test?
It seems like excercise is the key, tough I'm no expert on the subject.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305193 - 02/16/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the only thing needed is more thc to drown out the old thc
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305226 - 02/16/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oDin said: I'm scheduled for a UA Friday after next. just found out today sooooooooo my last toke was Tuesday night. pretty much daily use at nights (chronic) prior to that day.
after reading alot of posts and websites my conclusions are that the vast majority of the products you consume are bogus and act primarily because 1. they are a diuretic 2. you drink alot of water thus diluting the urine.
I'm not sure if i would be clean by the 24th or perhaps a day earlier. i am assuming that daily use would take longer then ~10 days. i work out regularly and i think I'm prolly 5-10lbs over my goal weight. all i know about the test is they are sending me a letter then i have 72 hours to go piss after i receive it and its a UA. thankfully i have a mole at my employer's office. anyway, I'm surprised i have never been tested before. I'm in health care and since i have to goto a place to do the deed I'm going to assume it will be a better than average test in sensitivity.
so after all the reading and suggestions I'm thinking about using urine that is not mine. do they usually observe you piss at most places? thats my main point to the post. with the info i have provided do you think i would need a "special" delivery device for the piss? or just the right temp and dump it in.
thanks for your thoughts
Finding clean pee, but someone that will do it for you, is a catch-22, eh? 
Just don't smoke, drink water.
You know, I'd think if THC were stored in fat cells (is this a myth???), then you'd just need to go low-calorie low-carb, burn out those adipose cells that may or may not carry thc, and go from there. You're a pretty skinny/cut guy already , though, yeah? 
I'd say if you don't smoke for a week or two, you should be fine, though.... The perpetuity of thc for drug tests sounds like that LSD orange transmogrification tale.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: GnuBobo]
#5305227 - 02/16/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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THC is fat soluble, hence it getting stored in fat cells.
I think the answer is rather obvious, and that would be liposuction.
Or eat a bunch of Burger King then work out for hours on end.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: GnuBobo]
#5305339 - 02/16/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If THC is stored in fat cells, wouldn't metabolizing that fat through excersize release it into your blood stream, thereby increasing the titer concentration?
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You got me.
I thought if you burned up the carriers, it would get excreted through sweat or pee.
But I'm afraid I have some serious doubts regarding this adipose-tissue storage theory. Sounds like BS and I've never seen any real data to back it up.
I've heard hash makes your brain bleed, though....
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: GnuBobo]
#5305379 - 02/16/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol hahaha hash definitely doesn't make your brain bleed, unless you load it into a bong, and hit yourself repeatedly in the head with it
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305457 - 02/16/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oDin,
I'm sure yuou looked at Erowid's info on this. Did you d/l the calculator? ( http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_thc_calc.exe )
If you've gotten wasted nightly for months up to Tuesday night, you're urine's FUCKED for up to 12 weeks. No matter what you do, you won't pass in less than 3 weeks.
Your only way around it is to use clean pee.
Method 1: Put a condom full of it between your ass cheeks and fashion a small diameter rubber tube to run under and tape it to your manhood with scotch tape. Use a small piece of plastic as a cork. (Even if they watch you, they don't actually look at the stream leaving your urethra and even if they want to, just pretend like there's no way you can go with someone staring at your dick.) Then just unblock the tube and squeeze the condom with your butt.
Method 2: This is what college athletes taking steroids do; Fast for 24 hours before the test. NO LIQUIDS OR SOLIDS AT ALL! Empty your bladder as close to test time as possible and using a catheter and a large syringe, half-fill it with clean pee. Gross sounding and a bit painful, yes, but it'll save your job.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305472 - 02/16/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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P.S.
Method 2 is fool-proof and there is a less painful way to do it, but it can be messy... Just use the 60cc syringe without the catheter. If you'd rather get sqirted with a bit of someone elses' pee than insert a catheter into your urethra all the way to your bladder, this is the better way. Your choice.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: TM]
#5305473 - 02/16/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ewww.... lol
sounds rather painful
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5305481 - 02/16/06 03:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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P.P.S (no pun intended)
I just realized that either way of using method 2 will be messy... Do it in the shower.
A few minutes of pain and a little pee on ya is worth not getting fired for drug use.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: TM]
#5306617 - 02/16/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont think you can put pee in you... thats an out hole..
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: AliceDee]
#5306631 - 02/16/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Drink water and be eating multi vitamins.
OG had an extensive forum dedicated to this.. too bad its down :/
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: AliceDee]
#5307153 - 02/16/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: i dont think you can put pee in you... thats an out hole..
Wrong. You certainly can. As I said, it's done by college athletes ALL the time.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: AliceDee]
#5307208 - 02/16/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: i dont think you can put pee in you... thats an out hole..
and as far as im concerned its staying an out hole. Injecting other people's urine into my own weenus does not sound like its worth it. I really hope I don't have to deal with this shit at some point in the future.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5307241 - 02/16/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think if you arnt morbidly over weight you wont need to even do anything... After months and months of smoking daily up to 5 times a day I passed within a week.
Just work out alot then drink 1-2 bottles of water befor the test....
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: Stonerguy]
#5307512 - 02/16/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You want to keep your metabolism as high as possible until a few days before your test. Then you would want to keep it slow for the test. Also before you take the test gelatin, dieuretics and what not can help. Look into it. If its a UA you can not use somthing that you put into your urine.
I am no expert by any means, but that would be my best guess.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: baraka]
#5309026 - 02/16/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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welp after talking and reading we decided to get some pee
never thought i would buy pee but meh i dont know anyone near me i can ask....
I'm kinda nervous and really cant afford to take a chance...in 1 year i will be bill-less and would be more willing to see what my metabolism is capable of at that point.
but for now i have no idea if they will watch or not. so got some pee, real pee no less, heh, sigh, and a tube thing to run by my penor with a valve...o and some hand warmers...gonna practice a few times to get it right. apparently the company i work for will continue random testing, so the delivery device will prolly be reused. they said i will always have 72 hours after recieving the letter to show up at the pee station so i think this system should work out as i plan on having spare piss around the house...i have to admit i just LOL while typing that last part. i also heard from a person that used to work in a lab to show up early in the day.....like at opening time as they will be less likely to catch oddities if there are any ie temp, SG.
thank you so much for the input people. its nice just to see other people have peed and survived.
on top of that im NOT smoking till after the test and drinking some water a few hours before, just in case my primary plan falls apart for some reason.
when its all said and done ill post a urine update bleh
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5309037 - 02/16/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good luck. They don't usually watch you when you pee. Not for jobs anyway.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: blissedout]
#5333814 - 02/24/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok well i have done 3 "dry" runs
tommorrow is the big day. feeling pretty confident as long as i dont spill the piss getting it ready.
this is one time i might be so bold as to ask for good vibes
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5333836 - 02/24/06 12:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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good vibes being sent man! if anyone deserves them its you. good luck
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5333840 - 02/24/06 12:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you will be fine. good things happen to good people.
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5333857 - 02/24/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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goods vibes to you odin.
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oDin
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: 40oz]
#5334815 - 02/24/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok so i went in there
did my thing, opened the door and the receptionist/tech came in didn't even look at the temp thingy on the container, probably dumped 3/4ths of it into the toilet and transferred the rest into a different container and so on. I'm thinking "hey woman use all that piss for chrissakes it cost me $"
anyway glad that parts over, now just need to wait for the results
peace and thanks
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5334997 - 02/24/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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No watcher? Since you're in heathcare too, that's good news for me!! What did they do specifically? Anything to try and keep you from substituting?? This is good info for me in the future... right now I don't have to worry about it as the place I work can't afford to lose anyone and haven't pee tested anyone in nearly 2 years. But I plan on moving soon, so the chances are I'll have to go back to being submissive to The Man again...
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oDin
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just take my coat off was all...in a way i was kinda dissapointed as i prepared for alot more
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Screw the man and his drug tests . I won't let him mess with my personal rights and liberties .
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oDin
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alrighty got the word form my contact
all good
even tho i figured it was gonna be ok...still that doubt in the back of your head about SG or temp was there
anyway weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5356161 - 03/02/06 01:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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awesome. it must have been all those good vibes 
/me smokes a bowl in celebration
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5356181 - 03/02/06 01:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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/me reaches for a high five
Way to go, oDin. (No pun intended)
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: oDin]
#5356190 - 03/02/06 01:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yay
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Time to celebrate!
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Re: my turn i guess [Re: adrug]
#5356787 - 03/02/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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YAAAY!! I'm smoking a bowl to that!
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gracias to all the good vibes
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