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I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude
#5303476 - 02/15/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seriously, tripping balls is fun.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303479 - 02/15/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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amen brother
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul] 1
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Only utterly dedicated psychonauts who endlessly chase some obscure and nebulous "enlightenment" and read Carlos Castenada have the right to "trip balls". Everybody else is a poser.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303489 - 02/15/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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no. people should have to eat at least 5 grams for every trip, talk in elf gibberish, and make pretentious claims about the nature of the universe while they are coming down.
it's the only way the world will see how valuable psychedelics are!
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5303491 - 02/15/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I smoke a DMT/crack mixture before I hit da clubs.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#5303502 - 02/15/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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JonnyOnTheSpot said: no. people should have to eat at least 5 grams for every trip, talk in elf gibberish, and make pretentious claims about the nature of the universe while they are coming down.
it's the only way the world will see how valuable psychedelics are!
McKenna and Hoffman would be proud.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5303505 - 02/15/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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sadhdasaterm zfxvgnja dryhaserd hyaertjn artzjm
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TheDude]
#5303516 - 02/15/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheDude said: sadhdasaterm zfxvgnja dryhaserd hyaertjn artzjm
Speak it brother! Only us enlightened trippers can "see the light". I understood everything you just said.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5303519 - 02/15/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul] 1
#5303555 - 02/15/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some people choose to take an intelligent approach to psychedelics. The more you know and understand about the world around you, the more elightened you're trips will be.
Who do you think is going to get the most out of psychedelics, your average 15 year old who worries daily about science homework, zits and whether sally in algebra class would like to go out for hotdogs after friday nights game or not, or a quantum physicist who is deeply involved with furthing of human knowledge?
Say what you will, but just because someone says they had an experience of operating in higher dimensions or that they were seeing pretty lights and the emimen poster on the wall begin to breath, doesn't constitute are holier than thou attitude. It's just a higher intelligent attitude.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5303608 - 02/15/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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letting go, having fun and "tripping balls" can be just as rewarding as picking apart your brain on some sort of psudo-spiritual quest. i personally seek both from time to time, depending on my mood. sometimes i feel like a nut....
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: wrestler_az]
#5303628 - 02/15/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i go into a trip usually with a very whatever type attitude. most of the time, due to dosage and surroundings, i end up losing my shit and having 'fun' isn't on the top of my lists, or even something i'm capable of doing, but that's just how i like it.
i hate all 'holier than thou' attitudes. all of them. it goes way beyond drugs
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5303634 - 02/15/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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McKennaDMT said: Say what you will, but just because someone says they had an experience of operating in higher dimensions or that they were seeing pretty lights and the emimen poster on the wall begin to breath, doesn't constitute are holier than thou attitude. It's just a higher intelligent attitude.
No, but giving it more legitimacy than fun tripping certainly qualifies as "holier than thou." Don't get me wrong...I've had some great spiritual trips, but they usually happen when I'm not really trying for one. BTW, I think the 15-year-old in your example could benefit much more from tripping than the quantum physicist. Hell, he might even have a trip that inspires him to become a quantum physicist. The guy who's already a quantum physicist has already figured out plenty without the help of psychedelics.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303650 - 02/15/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or maybe he's a quantum phsicist because he did psychedelics? 
I'm pretty lax on this whole subject actually. Do what thou will, as long as you leave me to do what I will.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303674 - 02/15/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can't beat tripping balls 
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5303677 - 02/15/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i find that the only times i've been hit by a wave of what i'd call enlightenment was when i wasn't trying for it at all. it just happened randomly. i don't think you can force it, and if you do force it and "it" happens, it may just be you seeing what you want to see.
so i say let it happen naturally when it will and try to have some fun in the meantime, cuz you'll always get something meaningful out of tripping eventually no matter who you are or what your mind set is. I've known superficial wiggers who worship tupac who have had life changing trips. they weren't trying to have life changing trips of course.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5303678 - 02/15/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thats the attitude
why should i give a fuck about your tripping intentions? hah, i dont!
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Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM)
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5303680 - 02/15/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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EXACTLY!!
"Trip and let trip." That's my motto.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303723 - 02/15/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like tripping balls. I might have random revelations, but I like to trip balls and have fun rather than ponder shit for hours. That's for the comedown
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5303727 - 02/15/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I understand where the poster of the other thread was coming from...in a way. It's usually the disrespectful trippers who get the insight seekers into trouble. There are too many instances where a tripper just decides to get fucked up on shrooms...without any regard for doseage and warnings...and then ends up getting their ass handed to them. Next thing you know they are on freevibe or some other bullshit propaganda installation talking about how "'shrooms are evil", and spreading idiotic rumors about them.
I would have to say that level 4 and 5 type trips are definitely only for "spiritual" seekers. The reason being is that Ego-loss is pretty much guaranteed at those levels. A purely recreational tripper would not like that...
So perhaps he or she sees them as a threat...and it could very well be that. I personally don't mind the rec. trippers TOO MUCH as long as they have RESPECT for the drug that they are taking.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
#5303810 - 02/15/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lunatik said: I would have to say that level 4 and 5 type trips are definitely only for "spiritual" seekers. The reason being is that Ego-loss is pretty much guaranteed
WRONG. I trip purely for recreation and never do less than 5 grams and always get to "level 4-5" and have only seen the doorway to ego loss. My maximum (record) dose was 7 grams of Thai KS and I still didn't get to ego loss, though it was a far more potent shroom trip than I'm comfortable with.
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Lunatik said: A purely recreational tripper would not like that...
RIGHT. In most cases, this is true.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5303890 - 02/15/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lunatik said: I would have to say that level 4 and 5 type trips are definitely only for "spiritual" seekers. The reason being is that Ego-loss is pretty much guaranteed
WRONG. I trip purely for recreation and never do less than 5 grams and always get to "level 4-5" and have only seen the doorway to ego loss. My maximum (record) dose was 7 grams of Thai KS and I still didn't get to ego loss, though it was a far more potent shroom trip than I'm comfortable with.
Total loss of ego is the trademark sign of a level 5 trip. I only added "pretty much" because a level 4 trip has high chances, but not quite like what a 5 can do. 
From the Shroomery Trip Report Guide:
Level 5 "Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels)."
Source: http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/11
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#5303916 - 02/15/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tripping balls is no fun. I almost hit my head on the post when I tripped on a football. Why, are you even talking about football anyways?

jk. Yeah, tripping balls is great. Especially sex on mushrooms, can be the best thing ever, by yourself! Have sex with the universe. Cum into the giant cosmic eternities
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: four_winds]
#5303959 - 02/15/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You've never had sex.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Redstorm]
#5303971 - 02/15/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What part about by yourself and sex with the universe did you miss. I've had sex just not on mushrooms..... YET.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
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Lunatik said:
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TripMeister said:
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Lunatik said: I would have to say that level 4 and 5 type trips are definitely only for "spiritual" seekers. The reason being is that Ego-loss is pretty much guaranteed
WRONG. I trip purely for recreation and never do less than 5 grams and always get to "level 4-5" and have only seen the doorway to ego loss. My maximum (record) dose was 7 grams of Thai KS and I still didn't get to ego loss, though it was a far more potent shroom trip than I'm comfortable with.
Total loss of ego is the trademark sign of a level 5 trip. I only added "pretty much" because a level 4 trip has high chances, but not quite like what a 5 can do. 
From the Shroomery Trip Report Guide:
Level 5 "Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels)."
Source: http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/11
"I trip purely for recreation and never do less than 5 grams and always get to "level 4-5"
4-5 means 4.0-5.0 and IME you can get as far as 5.2 to 5.3 without losing your ego. The levels have different intensities. IMO, you need to go beyond 5.5 before losing your ego.
If you disagree and insist, then I'd be willing to say that I've only been to level 4.99999999999999999999999999999999999999. But it's all silly because these "levels" are only a guideline for INEXPERIENCED people anyway.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: four_winds]
#5304021 - 02/15/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's masturbation, not sex.
And taking mushrooms then jerking off doesn't seem like the best way to spend a trip.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5304048 - 02/15/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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BY sex I mean focusing on my sex chakra, which when tripping can be QUITE THE POWERFUL BEAM. And sometimes when you're tripping balls alone, you need that cosmic vagina to lighten your load. After the most intense orgasm you will probably ever remembering having had, you can continue your trip and spend time in thought on other and more expansive issues and ideas than sex
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: four_winds]
#5304052 - 02/15/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Somebody needs to sit you down and have the "birds and bees" discussion with you.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304057 - 02/15/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"What do I do with the giant thing hanging between my legs, mommy" 'Here dear, let me have a look.'
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: four_winds]
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four_winds said: BY sex I mean focusing on my sex chakra
Unfortunately for you, that's not what sex means.
Now quit simultaneously jerking and tripping balls.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
#5304098 - 02/15/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lunatik said: Total loss of ego is the trademark sign of a level 5 trip. I only added "pretty much" because a level 4 trip has high chances, but not quite like what a 5 can do. 
25 hits of LSD, 17 grams of dried cubensis... I never lost my ego, it stayed on my keyring where it belongs
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5304101 - 02/15/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes when I trip, my ego doubles and I make up lies just to one up the people hanging out with me.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304128 - 02/15/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you should move to toronto and sleep 15 hours per day, everyone else does
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
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TripMeister said: "I trip purely for recreation and never do less than 5 grams and always get to "level 4-5"
4-5 means 4.0-5.0 and IME you can get as far as 5.2 to 5.3 without losing your ego. The levels have different intensities. IMO, you need to go beyond 5.5 before losing your ego.
If you disagree and insist, then I'd be willing to say that I've only been to level 4.99999999999999999999999999999999999999. But it's all silly because these "levels" are only a guideline for INEXPERIENCED people anyway.
None of the other levels really matter too much because they vary too often. However, level 5 is different. Level 5 is the place reserved for Ego-loss. 5.1, 5.2, etc. don't exist.
Here's the deal. Ego-loss is the very END of the spectrum. Why? Because of one important factor...during normal consciousness, death is the ultimate experience of experiences. Ego-loss directly simulates this. There is nothing beyond. That is why it is at 5.
So basically, if you don't acquire Ego-loss, then you aren't hitting level 5. Anything else is 4 or below. It's important to keep it that way so that in the future, the medical field will have something to go by when researching the death simulation.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
#5304242 - 02/15/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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All you had to say was, "Fine, then in my opinion, you've only gotten to level 4.99999999999999999999999999"
I don't need to hear all of your speculative crap and unique opinions.
Are you really trying to teach someone with 26 years of shrooming experience about the levels of intensity of trips?
PLEASE, dude.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
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If anyone gets the chance, definately hang out with Tripmeister. It's a blast! -Bruiser
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
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If I'm asking my friend how his/her acid trip or mushroom trip went, I never say "So, hey, what level would you say you reached?" It just seems so tacky, to classify trips based on a 1-5 numbered system.
I either tripped face, didn't trip, or kinda tripped.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
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I am trippen balls, They just hit the floor and bounced up and hit me in the face
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
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I find psychedelics and enlightenment inseparable. I'm actually hesitant on using the term "enlightenment", a better term would be "insight", since I cannot testify with any certainty that what I've extracted from psychedelic experiences had any truth merit. This happens not by will, but by effect. I don't yearn for an insightful experience, I just ingest and experience. I don't think I've ever had a purely recreational trip.
When the insight was starting to gradually peak off from my trips, I stopped dosing. I haven't consumed psychedelics in years.
They gave me the push I needed, that's all.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
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I just like to have fun, that's why I take shrooms. Whether or not I get something out of the trip has nothing to do with it. If they weren't fun nobody would take them. 
peace all
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5304296 - 02/15/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TripMeister said: All you had to say was, "Fine, then in my opinion, you've only gotten to level 4.99999999999999999999999999"
I don't need to hear all of your speculative crap and unique opinions.
Are you really trying to teach someone with 26 years of shrooming experience about the levels of intensity of trips?
PLEASE, dude.
Ok, man. You're free to form your own opinions. However, I wasn't speculating. It's in the Shroomery Trip Guide for a reason...because it's a generally accepted thing.
None of my posts were meant to be condescending towards you, just so you know. Peace.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304298 - 02/15/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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e-chode said: If anyone gets the chance, definately hang out with Tripmeister. It's a blast! -Bruiser
Riddle:
Q) Who spells "definitely" with an "a"?
A) An uneducated (and unamusing) joker.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Darkcloud]
#5304311 - 02/15/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Speculation:
"It's important to keep it that way so that in the future, the medical field will have something to go by when researching the death simulation."
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5304322 - 02/15/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TripMeister said: Speculation:
"It's important to keep it that way so that in the future, the medical field will have something to go by when researching the death simulation."
Nah, read "DMT: The Spirt Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman. That is, if you haven't read it. He talks about what I'm refering to.
Sleep -> DMT Ego-Loss -> DMT Death -> DMT
These all have a common theme. That's why it will be useful. Check the book out.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5304345 - 02/15/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Uniqe opinions:
"There is nothing beyond. That is why it is at 5."
No, there's no level 6. There are many intensities of a level 5.
"It's in the Shroomery Trip Guide for a reason...because it's a generally accepted thing."
No. It's there for people who haven't got trip experience to get an idea of what to expect from certain doses.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5304346 - 02/15/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TripMeister said:
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e-chode said: If anyone gets the chance, definately hang out with Tripmeister. It's a blast! -Bruiser
Riddle:
Q) Who spells "definitely" with an "a"?
A) An uneducated (and unamusing) joker.

You mean Bruiser? Because that's how he spells it in your rating (where I got the quote from).
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304352 - 02/15/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for publicizing my promotional rating. You're a pal.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: TM]
#5304363 - 02/15/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm here to help. PLUR ON, MAN.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304412 - 02/15/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's true.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5304414 - 02/15/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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BOOM SHAKALAKA
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304421 - 02/15/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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High five on the assist!
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#5304422 - 02/15/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: RESTLESS]
#5304436 - 02/15/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Holier than thou" people suck.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304459 - 02/15/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like to trip, roll, & snort balls.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5304635 - 02/15/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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e-chode said: BOOM SHAKALAKA
yo here comes the chief rocka rock it down so jump off the tip you're not my nucca
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#13434265 - 11/04/10 02:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Hey man Im giving you  
Aw man since when did I get 4 hands, before or after I ate those chocholates!
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: RandalFlagg]
#13434279 - 11/04/10 02:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: Only utterly dedicated psychonauts who endlessly chase some obscure and nebulous "enlightenment" and read Carlos Castenada have the right to "trip balls". Everybody else is a poser.
the only enlightment there is in mushroom or lsd trip is the feeling.
that's it.
feel it... know it... know how to feel it and let others feel it... know how to let others know how to respect it.
that's it.
nothing more.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: akira_akuma]
#13434396 - 11/04/10 02:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like to extrapolate as much knowledge/wisdom as possible from my life experiences. With that said, after my first few trips there wasn't much to gain from it besides a good time. Unless of course I go for a heroic dose, but even then the amount of practical wisdom I get out of it that doesn't sound like some inane hippie rambling is going be slim.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: akira_akuma]
#13434498 - 11/04/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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RandalFlagg said: Only utterly dedicated psychonauts who endlessly chase some obscure and nebulous "enlightenment" and read Carlos Castenada have the right to "trip balls". Everybody else is a poser.
the only enlightment there is in mushroom or lsd trip is the feeling.
that's it.
feel it... know it... know how to feel it and let others feel it... know how to let others know how to respect it.
that's it.
nothing more.
exactly. eating a bunch of mushrooms in the dark with the lights turned off and doing nothing all night will leave you no more or no less enlightened than if you had not done it.
eating a bunch of acid at a festival with more women than your balls can handle...now that's enlightenment
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: F0SS1L]
#13434522 - 11/04/10 03:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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F0SS1L said: I like to extrapolate as much knowledge/wisdom as possible from my life experiences. With that said, after my first few trips there wasn't much to gain from it besides a good time. Unless of course I go for a heroic dose, but even then the amount of practical wisdom I get out of it that doesn't sound like some inane hippie rambling is going be slim.
why not just learn from yourself? why a heroic dose only?
why do mushrooms at all? 
because it's fun. (that'd be a good answer, if you knew yourself)
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: AntiEverything]
#13434529 - 11/04/10 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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AntiEverything said:
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akira_akuma said:
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RandalFlagg said: Only utterly dedicated psychonauts who endlessly chase some obscure and nebulous "enlightenment" and read Carlos Castenada have the right to "trip balls". Everybody else is a poser.
the only enlightment there is in mushroom or lsd trip is the feeling.
that's it.
feel it... know it... know how to feel it and let others feel it... know how to let others know how to respect it.
that's it.
nothing more.
eating a bunch of acid at a festival with more women than your balls can handle...now that's enlightenment
yikes!
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: akira_akuma]
#13434652 - 11/04/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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F0SS1L said: I like to extrapolate as much knowledge/wisdom as possible from my life experiences. With that said, after my first few trips there wasn't much to gain from it besides a good time. Unless of course I go for a heroic dose, but even then the amount of practical wisdom I get out of it that doesn't sound like some inane hippie rambling is going be slim.
why not just learn from yourself? why a heroic dose only?
why do mushrooms at all? 
because it's fun. (that'd be a good answer, if you knew yourself)
To me it's all about seeing life from different state of mind. Experiencing things in a different way can help you approach problems in your life differently.
And this applies to more than just shrooms. Alcohol can act as a social lubricant and help a person come out of their shell. You can then apply those experiences to your every day life and maybe be a bit less reserved.
But you're right in that most of the time we do drugs just for fun. Most people probably don't view drinking as life-changing experience. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with trying to get more out of them either. Sometimes drugs help your problems, sometimes they don't. I think the only point where anyone should criticize another person's drug use is when it becomes destructive.
But back to my first point, and to address your questions, we're always learning from ourselves. We learn about ourselves through life experiences. Tripping is just another experience and not everyone is looking for answers. But as I said, I like to get the most out of what I do. At this point I've explored that world pretty extensively so my reasoning for a heroic dose would be that there are potentially new things for me to experience. I actually think it's pretty naive to ask a chemical to answer any of your questions- we should definitely be learning from ourselves and not from the drugs. I do think drugs can aid us though.
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Edited by F0SS1L (11/04/10 03:47 PM)
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: F0SS1L]
#13434811 - 11/04/10 04:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, i completely agree.
new perspectives is the one reason i'd do... acid for example...
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: akira_akuma]
#13434841 - 11/04/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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i use it as a tool of manifestation.
discovered that this summer
anything you could ever want in the entire world is all at your fingertips. instead of looking so close, perhaps you should unfocus?
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: akira_akuma]
#13434842 - 11/04/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't try to ever say that there is a "proper" way to use and experience entheogens.
I treat it the same way I treat religion. Unless you're in my face, preaching about it, I'm going to keep my opinions to my damn self.
If somebody likes to take tons of LSD or mushrooms at a party, and just act silly and have fun, then more power to them.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#13434848 - 11/04/10 04:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that certain people have a duty to be sanctimonious about psychedelics - legitimate shamans, for example. If you serve as a spiritual guide to a large number of people then it helps keep the group dynamic in line to sound like you know what the fuck you're talking about and to be able to tell people they are wrong about something.
On the other hand, if you make and smoke DMT in your parents' basement, as is the case for what I'm guessing is the majority of this forum, then yeah, just admit that you do it for fun and we can all move on.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#13434857 - 11/04/10 04:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh my god, we're posting in a thread that is four years old.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#13434860 - 11/04/10 04:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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FUCK!
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#13434881 - 11/04/10 04:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tchan why did you opt out? A veteran like you should have been able to counter act any rating rape the OTD inflicted by now.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#13434962 - 11/04/10 04:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't have any ratings rape happen at all, I just noticed that my ratings hung in the back of my mind and influenced me for every post I made, and I decided I didn't like that, so I opted out. Honestly I already feel like I'm more open and comfortable in my posts and less inclined to filter what I say, or to go on long ranting soapbox-tangents on subjects that do not really apply to me, without the ratings being a conscious factor.
It's not like I try to be an authority around here anyway. For any given subject involving mushrooms or psychedelics, you could name dozens of Shroomery members who know more than I do. My perfect-5 rating didn't really say anything about me except that people around here thought my posts were cool, and I'm secure enough in that not to need a badge saying so.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#13434989 - 11/04/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool. Glad to see someone opted out for a good reason for once. 
You make me almost want to opt out as well.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#13435003 - 11/04/10 04:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go for it man! I don't know if everyone has the same relationship with their ratings that I did, but in my experience it's WAY easier to just be myself in my posts after opting out. Unless you're very well-trained in some discipline or study or another and want to be taken seriously when you share your special knowledge, you really don't have much to lose by opting out of general ratings.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Silversoul]
#21139680 - 01/18/15 04:12 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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well i think it depends. if it's just trippin shit man it's all your opinion. but if it's drug information that's a different story. like drug information is supposed to be highly professional because of the taboo of the content.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: justsayknow]
#21139690 - 01/18/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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the only user that I have seen exhibit that attitude on a regular basis is probably bill oreilly
I don't dislike him, just saying that he seems to come across that way sometimes
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: ipraytomushrooms]
#21139694 - 01/18/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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8yrs old.
then 4yrs old.
now 2min old.
thread
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: memes]
#21144904 - 01/19/15 03:44 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I'll keep posting in this just because I can.
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#21144968 - 01/19/15 04:01 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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didnt read the thread but i agree with OP
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#21145005 - 01/19/15 04:05 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I knew a guy who thought he could just start traveling around ( with no car ) and everything would work out. He adamantly said how he wouldn't even need to talk to people, because "most people are much more intelligent than you think" and you can mentally communicate with them. I pointlessly disagreed saying most people are actually more dull than you would think. He would say how you don't need any money at all, and that everything will just work out. I told him money is pretty important, since food tends to cost money, and you need food and water to live. Its not like he knew or was going to grow his own food, he thought it would just come to him somehow. This was a bone skinny kid who one time watching TV commented that he would kick the guy in the shows ass in real life if he saw him. The guy in the show would break this guy like a toothpick even if he had no fighting skills. Currently the guy lives at home, or got kicked out and lives with someone else, but either way, he doesn't support himself, and probably good for him, he gave up all drugs, since he feels wonderful just how he is..
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Acaterpillar
A little mad...



Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 18,693
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: SteelPanther]
#21145028 - 01/19/15 04:09 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Most people appear however you choose to perceive them. Perception is absolute to the viewer perceiving; regardless of objective reality.
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fbi365
Captain of the Sinking Ship



Registered: 02/07/11
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Re: I'm really sick of the "holier than thou" tripper attitude [Re: Acaterpillar]
#21145103 - 01/19/15 04:29 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I strictly use drugs frivolously and recreationally. I demand that every one else does the same.
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