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    #5301611 - 02/15/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am wondering if anyone knows of any strains of weed that would do well in the southern california climate with little help. It will be my first grow, and I want something very simple and easy to work with while I get accustomed to how the plant works and grows. I want something that can be generally left alone for a little while without too much of a problem. Remember, I live in SoCal, so very little rain. Keep it in mind, but don't let it discount any ideas you may have. I am really eager to try my hand at this.

I am also considering getting some lowryder as a plant I can put in my backyard....does it need any special attention?


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5309181 - 02/16/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

....bumpified.
i still am looking for help on this. i would really appreciate any input.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5310072 - 02/17/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

san diego's weather is good enough to have plants out all year but i'm waiting till mid-march to put some babies outside. as far as strain goes, anything will do really. as long as you water when they need it and fertilize when they need it you'll get some buds.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5310548 - 02/17/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Damn, that would be nice to have a place outdoors to let loose :crazy2:

How about california skunk


or white widow, suppose to be the strongest strain
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Re: cali outdoor [Re: rod]
    #5310950 - 02/17/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

from what i understand, white widow is highly over rated. then again, maybe people who say this just got widow from bad growers. i think it is not entirely the strain, as much as how it is grown. like, different strains have different potential potencies, but it is really up to the grower to determine if they will reach their potential.
besides, WW seeds are expensive as fuck, and i am just now experimenting with growing. and i am talking about growing outside(I am too cheap to pay for an indoor system, and my living conditions would stop me from using an indoor system regardless of my money), and i think that that would put even more risk onto my plants as far as whether or not they will survive. so yea, not gonna spend money on ww just yet


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5383938 - 03/10/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

is Cali's heavily clay soil too bad for marijuana? can it grow in it? the soil is hard as fuck.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5383965 - 03/10/06 12:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Strains that do well in southern cali? Hmm well basicly what kind of high do you like? Basicly dude you can grow any strain you want, so some research on outdoor growing, learn what you need to do and know, and let the sun do her job.

Id personaly go with a 10 to 12 week pure sativa, if I could only pick one, but hey If i had a good outdoor spot in southern cali, I would grow many strains :laugh:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: Springs]
    #5383984 - 03/10/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ha, I don't care which kind of high. I can't smoke; piss tests.
I want to grow because I love growing plants. Also, I hate the marijuana market with a pasion. People make so much money by overcharginf for this stuff, so I plan on growing and either giving out the weed free or charging just enough to cover nutes and seeds.
I mostly wanna grow just to grow. But also I really want to be able to help people out with conquering these high prices. 15 bucks a gram=bullshit. 5 bucks a gram, TOPS with me. That's my plan.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5384111 - 03/10/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Why not put it in a big planter outside?


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5384133 - 03/10/06 01:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i plan on doing guerilla grows.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5384970 - 03/10/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Might want to think about making seeds aswell then, spred the genes and means for people to grow there own aswell. Buy some good seeds, make a few thousand of them. Sell em for a buck a seed.

IMO please stay away from lowryder or lr cross's. I really dont think your position requires this strain of hemp origin. Its just not worth it at all. Grow some powerfull dope :smile: Old school stuff, Big Sur Holyweed is a pers fav, panama red, oxacan, santa marta gold, etc. :smile:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: Springs]
    #5385251 - 03/10/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

can't grow in hard clay soil. you gotta pack in soil to plots and either dig holes or pack in pots. i'd opt for pots because digging in hard clay soil sucks balls.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: TODAY]
    #5386644 - 03/10/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, it does suck. But what kind of soil to use? also, how big would a pot need to be for a plant? or how deep/wide should I dig my holes?

and i plan on making my first gneration or two for seed stock. and i will give out the seeds for free(not all of em, just like, 5 seeds per person, or....well, how many seeds usually grow on bud plants?)


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5386657 - 03/10/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

cali is gettin cold...


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: eligal]
    #5386673 - 03/10/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yea dude. i went out for lunch today, and i could see my breath. at 1 in the afternoon in cali, with the son shining, i could see my breath. THAT'S FUCKED UP!!! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!! This is San Diego, damnit.

But yes, it is getting kind of cold, but you know SoCal, our longest "winter"/times of cold are 2 weeks. And it NEVER hits freezing in san diego, so I don't think it will be a problem.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5386746 - 03/10/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Also, I know I should search this, but how necesarry are nutes? And if they are really, truly, badly needed, what would be the cheapest/easiest nutes to go with? remember, this is not so much about yield, or potency, because I am not selling/smoking.


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    #5388153 - 03/11/06 02:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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excuse me?


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    #5388451 - 03/11/06 07:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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this is not so much about yield, or potency






excuse me?




If you are taking the risk of growing and going to jail, might aswell get the dankest bud you can grow bro.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5388728 - 03/11/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so you've never grown before and now you want to be a breeder?

slow down there, bub :smirk:

good seeds are relatively easy to get a hold of, someone who's never grown before growing for just seeds doesn't make much sense at all.  grow some plants, learn how to take care of them and how they grow, hopefully harvest them and get to smoke them.  repeat that a few times, then maybe worry about breeding for seeds if you're really into that idea.

cannabis really isn't a hard plant to grow, but your questions lead me to believe breeding or even thinking of growing enough to sell is a bit much at this point.  having high expectations for your first grow will usually leave you disappointed...  your first mission should be just to grow a mature, seedless female plant, start to finish.

anywho, that's FWIW, I'm not trying to discourage you, just trying to inject a little logic into the discussion :wink:

as far as strain suggestions go, I'd go with any early, heavy 'indica' variety myself :stoned:

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    #5389576 - 03/11/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

gotta love that semi-organic cali outdoor, cant resist it when it "comes around"


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: LeastResistance]
    #5392659 - 03/12/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I just wanted to get seeds so i could have more plants next time. But you are right, I should worry less about that, more about growing it well and as a decent smoke.
Still my question stands: "but how necesarry are nutes? And if they are really, truly, badly needed, what would be the cheapest/easiest nutes to go with?"


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5392956 - 03/12/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hey man.

I don't mean to discourage you or anything but you need to do some reading about plants and how the grow. Also, your plan doesn't make the most sense. If you are planning on getting a bunch of seeds why are you bothering? are you planning on getting enough seeds to do a large outdoor grow the season after this coming one? If that's so, just go buy a bag of mexican dirt weed and you'll get 50 seeds per half oz or so.

I had a few high hopes attempts at growing when i was younger and i failed miserably because i thought too big instead of focusing on 1 or 2 good plants.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: TODAY]
    #5392961 - 03/12/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...that makes a whole shitload of sense. Still planning on growing, and still reading more and more. Just interested in anyone's experience in the matter, in addition to the reading.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5488133 - 04/06/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The growing has begun....
2 plants sprouted, put in pots in my yard until they are strong enough to withstand nature and be put into holes I dug and filled with soil.
Got about 10 more seeds begining the germination process today, and began 7 other seeds yesterday.

Let's do this!


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5488136 - 04/06/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, and I want to thank everyone who has participated in this thread and who will participate in this. You guys are seriously some of the most helpful people I have ever come accross. God bless this community, it is damned awesome.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5492702 - 04/08/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

lol well i admire your passion, good luck dudes :smile:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5494148 - 04/08/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I plan on growing not because I want profit, but because I want to hook up other people. It sucks getting screwed by weed prices, and I want to help people avoid that, even if only by a little. Also, I really enjoy gardening. A lot. And I want to give weed a try. Weed, poppies, cacti. Fun stuff.

Thanks for the advice, impgl, that is an interesting story. I will look into working with red dot.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5494180 - 04/08/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The bad thing about selling weed for much lower than market price ($5/gram) is that people will buy it and sell it at market price ($15/g). So in the end you're not really helping anyone get weed for cheap, you're just making money for other people.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: JayHorror]
    #5494915 - 04/08/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea, I have thought about that. It really sucks. Meh, I guess I can sell it at market price, why not. Fuck.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5498761 - 04/10/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: cali outdoor [Re: impgl]
    #5500441 - 04/10/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I kind of need to make money off of it anyway. I need a way to come up with funding for other things I plan on working on, such as mushy cult.

By the way, just put 6 seedlings outside in pots, and the one that has been out there longest is still not strong enough to hold itself up(I am bracing it with a twig). But I put out those other 6 very quickly after they showed their first baby-leaves, so they should not have an etoliation problem at all. Unless something very interesting happens before next weekend, I will update again...umh....next weekend.


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    #5500608 - 04/10/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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    #5500901 - 04/10/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thankyou, paradis, for that enlightening contribution :smile:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5506308 - 04/12/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I need advice. What do you guys reccomend as nutrients, and in what amount should I add them to the soil and with what frequency? Any advice on the kind of nutes and such would help. Remember, I should probably add more than I would if I was growing indoors.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5523453 - 04/17/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if its good soil, dont add nutes for 3 or so weeks, then something organic like bat guano (dr earth might be available in deo) with high nitrogen. but i would add just plain water with *maybe* some superthrive in it, which will help em get used to the out doors (has a lotta b1 vitamin). if you can, grow em indoors until after 3 or 4 sets of true leaves appear then slowly get em used to the outdoors, but you dont have to. just a better chance of survival.


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: impgl]
    #5525080 - 04/17/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have seen this several times, and come tothe conclusion that it is a term I need to know: what is "deo"?


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5537959 - 04/20/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so I have had this happen a couple times now: the stem on one of my seedlings has snapped near the base. Not into two pieces, but the seedling and 90% of its stem are now lying on its side. What caused this? Lack of water? because for the first time, i took a hydrometer (or whatever the meter is for measuring water content) and checked the pots. They were pretty dry. And I realized something: My soil is so well drained, that I have not been watering enough. Maybe this caused it? Or is this normal when growing seedlings outdoors?


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5549574 - 04/23/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

deo = san diego.... sorry : ) ummmm stem snappage im not really too sure.... are they being supported by a stick or something? water! its key to a good harvest!


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: impgl]
    #5549664 - 04/23/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Umh, I am not supporting them at all, unless they snap, in which case I hold the plant upright by securing the stem loosely between two sticks I lay across the lip of the pot.


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    #5550019 - 04/24/06 02:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Ok, so I have had this happen a couple times now: the stem on one of my seedlings has snapped near the base. Not into two pieces, but the seedling and 90% of its stem are now lying on its side. What caused this? Lack of water? because for the first time, i took a hydrometer (or whatever the meter is for measuring water content) and checked the pots. They were pretty dry. And I realized something: My soil is so well drained, that I have not been watering enough. Maybe this caused it? Or is this normal when growing seedlings outdoors?




i had this too... i have no idea what it is, i think just some strains have weeker stems at the beginning (so some strains need to be planted deeper). what i did was to put in more soil... jsut dont cover the leaves obviously  :thumbup:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: whatever123]
    #5550176 - 04/24/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Get this.

My exp with the plant. From what I'm reading I don't even know where to begin you got a long way to go and once you see the work in it your gonna rethink your prices.


From what I'm reading 5 dollars a gram is what it's gonna be worth. If your wanting to help your friends it's gonna take a lot of work to grow weed that they would pay 15 to 20 bucks a gram for in the first place.

I'm not trying to be a asshole here but but growing in the wild isn't what everybody thinks it is. You don't just plant a seed water once a month and killer gank comes up, just doesn't work like that.


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    #5550180 - 04/24/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You may wanna start with water supply. Nice and easy now but what about when they are 5 feet tall in the middle of July when a good size plant can use 5 gallons of water a day and that is in the No Cal woods let alone in So Cal where it bakes like a oven in the summer.
Not fun to ad that stuff in the summer when the ground is hard but my guess is that your not gonna slosh around in the rainey season when the ground is soft to pre dig your holes burry the water supply and put in gravity lines bury them all the way to the plant site the cammo the whole thing. Now if your planning to haul water to the site it's either close to home or doomed already.


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    #5550522 - 04/24/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Get this.

My exp with the plant. From what I'm reading I don't even know where to begin you got a long way to go and once you see the work in it your gonna rethink your prices.


From what I'm reading 5 dollars a gram is what it's gonna be worth. If your wanting to help your friends it's gonna take a lot of work to grow weed that they would pay 15 to 20 bucks a gram for in the first place.

I'm not trying to be a asshole here but but growing in the wild isn't what everybody thinks it is. You don't just plant a seed water once a month and killer gank comes up, just doesn't work like that.




I agree. If you are planning on growing several plants, which you intend to get rather big (over 5') then there's going to be lots of factors needed to be considered.

However, growing weed CAN be ridiculously easy. I had some clones last year that we're just a dank strain, I put them outside in like June and watered when they needed, and fertilized with Earth Juice towards the end of the budding period and they turned out quite dank.

Like medical grade dank. This is attributed simply to the plants genetics and propensity to make a dank plant.


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    #5550551 - 04/24/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I plan on growing not because I want profit, but because I want to hook up other people. It sucks getting screwed by weed prices, and I want to help people avoid that, even if only by a little. Also, I really enjoy gardening. A lot. And I want to give weed a try. Weed, poppies, cacti. Fun stuff.

Thanks for the advice, impgl, that is an interesting story. I will look into working with red dot.




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The bad thing about selling weed for much lower than market price ($5/gram) is that people will buy it and sell it at market price ($15/g). So in the end you're not really helping anyone get weed for cheap, you're just making money for other people.




Solution: Hook your friends up, and give people a decent price. If you hook them up too fat, they would probably try to sell some... I know I used to.

I mean if you buy a sack for twenty bucks, and it's big enough that you could sell a 20 out of it and still have a 20 to smoke... well... heh. So if weed averages 15 bucks a gram (Jesus Christ that's fucking horrible, thank God I live in Northern California) you should sell it for 10 bucks a gram (which I still consider a shitty price, granted the economics of weed vary greatly from region to region.)


Stoners in SoCal should begin considering making trips to NorCal after harvest, it's not uncommon to pick up ounces for prices like $50... sometimes even cheaper. It's usually last years and they want to make room for this years.


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    #5550933 - 04/24/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

kudos on all of those outdoors! whew! but it is hard imo to tend to these loving plants. but it doesnt mean dont try: you probably will fuck up, but thats how you learn! aw man i cant tell you how man times AFOAF fucked up with that plant! so many heart breaks lol. but once harvest day comes after a hard season, youll be wettin you pantalones! ummmm, it gets really hot in deo, so maybe plant under a lil bit of shade cause around miday in july, they may cook. also, dont plant till later in the season because if your sprouting now, they will get colosal by the end and need more root space and a lot more water. sprout in early june or something and maybe transplant in end of julyish. use grow bags, there cheap. also, start hauling in water. and Herbus: i know ive tried that exact thing lol, going up to the emerald tri around aug - nov when i thought people would be you know, *giving* away last years model.... hehe, didnt work out to well for me because i didnt really know anybody up there! but at least i got to go on a road trip in that beautiful area.


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    #5550938 - 04/24/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ps: how do i post pictures???


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    #5551706 - 04/24/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Type in the link to the image you want to post and enclose it in an image tag.

I know the weed isn't going to be that good, but I am just enjoying the growing of it and am messing around with different things.....it's hard to explain, whatever.

I added more soil to the plants with taller stems/larger leaves so that less of the stem height is exposed.
I have one book on growing, and I have wanted to get the Cannabis Grow Bible for a while, but never got around to it.

Good news: The plant which prompted me to post my problems with stems breaking (the one I supported with little wood chips after it broke) is standing on its own. I checked it out today and it was not lying against the wood chip anymore, but instead standing independently. GOOD STUFF!

Keeping them well watered now, because the soil has good drainage, so I would rather over water than underwater.

I plan on making the trips to bring the plants water, damnit! Maybe a gallon a day or something, I don't know.


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    #5552994 - 04/24/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nah man i get it, thats how a lot of people start growing. when you get into the hobby for the money, then youll get heart breaks.... but for real, which one of us didnt start growing for fun, got interested in the hobby, read all sorts of acounts for plants (a pound plus of dried sweet goodness, outdoor) and started dreaming of that sweet ipod, new clothes, etc? haha mebbe just me... just do NOT expect pounds of dank your first time around.


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    #5553322 - 04/24/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, I don't expect a single pound of shwag.
To me, success will be getting a plant from seed til mature and budding.
My goal is to just get some basics on growing before refining my technique to get better potency.


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    #5581963 - 05/02/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well. I just checked on them again today (I do almost daily, but I haven't had much noteworthy stuff). I think I must have fewer plants, I would say I have 3-4 that are what I would call healthy(I will check later).

Two of them are doing great, and I am happy. They have two 5-leaf sets each. I am pretty happy. One is much larger in comparison to the other, but whatever.
I can't believe this is going so well! I am just so happy to be witnessing this growing at my hands :smile:


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    #5593329 - 05/05/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, checked and water them. 5 of the 7 are doing very well. 5 leaves on some, 3 on some others.
The two that are fucked up have either yellow leaves that are shitty (not dead....been growing like that for a while now...) or fucked up looking leaves. Whatever.
I'm happy with what I have. Hopefully not too long before I can plant somewhere and just water it regularly and have that do the job.

Coming up on a month now, anyone care to help me out on some advice/experience? How does the speed at this point relate to how it has been? Do they grow a lot faster about nowish, slower? Any problems that might arise now, more than before?


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    #5638520 - 05/16/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, I pinched the tops off of a bunch of them(just above the second node, right?) last week. That should help keep them lower, correct?

Well, I haven't checked on all of them recently. but the one large one I had has 6 leaves (3 points of height at which two stems come out with 5 or more leaves). I just moved that one into the earth, and was so happy to see how nice the rootball was. It sort of let me know that I chose a good time to transplant, because roots were everywhere, but it was still loose enough that you could seperate a few roots on accident and a tiny amount of dirt would fall, but it was dense enough that I knew I had chosen a time in which it could really take advantage of all the extra space.
Cross your fingers for me in hopes that it doesn't get jacked!

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    #5638747 - 05/16/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i care! sounds like your doing great! hrm, i didnt know about pinching above the 2nd node, the times that the plants have beend pinched, its been pinched near the top sprouts. do you have a digi cam? have you been bringing up water on every trip? theirs one outdoor plant from seed up on the roof right now, hope its female. good luck@!


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    #5638788 - 05/16/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, I JUST planted it and posted when I got home. I am going to water it tomorrow, maybe, or perhaps on the weekend. I will water it well, for sure, but I will probably wait for the roots to get readjusted and acclimated to the new spot, first.

Just above the second node IS the top...or was.


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    #5639380 - 05/16/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the roots will be able to adapt the to soil to strengthen or be able to handle not being waterd for a couple days, but like you said earlier abut the White Widow from the bad growers... It does all depend on how you grow the weed, you could grow the best strain and have the shittiest bud youve ever smoked... it all depends on hwo you grow it, the lightage, and care ect ect.... you should round up 25.00 and go buy the Cannabis Grow Bible, it helps alot


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5639414 - 05/16/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the advice, but all my money goes to mushroom cultivation at the moment.

Apparently there are two tiny potted pots I may have slightly kind of forgotten about and found today, one with bleach-white leaves on the lower branches (which it has, like, 2 of. it is just a seedling) and the other with leaves that were drooping and as limp as Bob Dole. Watered the suckers, but whatever. I have several other much healthier main plants I am concerned with.


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    #5649456 - 05/19/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, do drooping leaves mean that the plant is lacking water? I assumed it did, because they drooped whenever I forgot to water them, and the day after I watered them well they were crispy again. Is this right, or is there some other, more sneaky, cause behind this?


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    #5680302 - 05/27/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What do you guys think? Ready to be planted in the ground?


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    #5680486 - 05/27/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hey i would have started them in the ground but thats just me. wilting would probably go away if you throw them in the ground, also it would keep the roots cooler they got to be burnin up it that sun. nice pool by the way. is that your pad(props to you) or your parents? im moving to vegas in the next year i hope to find a pool half that nice. shouldnt you top those babys by now if you want to be bushy and short instead of turning into green helicopter flags.


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    #5680514 - 05/27/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Good point, I topped one and it looks sick, because it hasn't got two stalks yet, but it has 4 new leaves growing out, bitchin.

Should I try to re-top the others?


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    #5680517 - 05/27/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You think the wilting is from lack of root room? Heat of the ground?

Oh, and I live at home right now, so it's my Mom's house(RIP, padre). New pool, totally killer.


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    #5691365 - 05/30/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

FUCK-NIGGER CUNT-POTATO! My in-ground plant was destroyed. All that was left was the stem standing in the ground. No small branches, no leaves. Fuckers. It was so young :'(
It pisses me off, because not only was a beautiful plant destroyed, but the assholes who destroyed it aren't even going to get anything out of it! They are smoking 2 month old leaves and stems! No buds! I am so upset with these fucks. Whatever, got some more plants, I suppose.


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    #5691492 - 05/30/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

same thing happened to me last year with 6 plants. i had just moved and wasnt to familar with the area and was way to bold. it was on a military base outside of a fence that read "unexploded ordinance do not enter". i thought the sign alone kept people away. nope because it was on the wrong side of the fence and turns out military people go back there at night and drink enjoying the view. well they were just gone could have been worse somebody could have been there waiting for me so i count my blessings. it could have also been because of heightened security on military bases at the time also. good thing my face wasnt exposed. thats a first and last time i do something like that. plus i broke my back carrying bails of soil to the site. i feel your pain. my condolenses to yopur lost little ladies.


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    #5691505 - 05/30/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

were there foot prints or deer tracks? if foot prints boots or shoes. a good thing to think about before planting again within a few miles of that spot.


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    #5691535 - 05/30/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No deer ot anything. I live in an area where that tiny ass area of undeveloped land was a luxury, so we have some coyotes in the hills and rabbits, and that's it. I know it was people. Less than 500 yards from houses, less than 100 yards from a street (which is elevated 40 feet higher than my plant, and my plant is entirely invisible from everywhere. The thing is, my co-gro buddy and I decided to chill at our spot for a little bit, kick back and relax on the rocks we put there. Well, I guess we made a little noise, because I say "shut the hell up" and we stop moving. And there ir is again: "pfft" and branches moving. Fuckers shot some airsoft/paintball at us, I guess. We get out of our bush and realize some kids saw us. We leave the canyon and they don't move. I guess they were watching us leave, then they went to check up on the spot we were at. Fast forward 1 week. No plant.
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My fault, I suppose. But still. Who DOES that kind of shit??
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    #5691580 - 05/30/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd be killin some kids. I guess I better do the moderator thing, be happy you didn't get busted. (once again I'd be killin some kids)


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    #5691600 - 05/30/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well i would go to a more rural area but that has its difficulties also. deer, rabbits, helicopters, more insects, and the drive out is especially dangerous. when harvest comes cars can smell that a half mile or more behind you going 65 mph on a highway. i wouldnt try to relocate in that area because whoever found them well be searching for more. rural areas can be safer if you take precautions like using coyote urine& fox urine around your plants(human hair works to some degree), getting well out there where no one goes(you see trash bad area), check local hunting seasons, where the locals hunt, amend your soil the fall before turning it good(otherwise your hike soil in), and streams are good however they flood occasionally drowning your shit. if a river is nearby make sure your crop is a good hike cause then you my have unexpected canoers/fisherman. UPS airports at least at my most sucessful site are great. UPS airports are usually put away in farm areas and it is restricted airspace. landing and taking off only no hovering or backtracking in the sky. hope this helps let me know if you need anything else.


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    #5691614 - 05/30/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That really sucks. My friend just lost 3 plants outdoors to some stray cat(s). He was pretty pissed. I offered to run it over the other day, actually.


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    #5691637 - 05/30/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

also if you get a good harvest dont be afraid to invest get those gps that have walkie talkie capabilites, they also tell you where your partners at(this could pin point your location to athorities if there at your site waiting for you but i dont think they have got that far yet). buy some genIII night vision and only go at night. they have grade B night vision which is much cheaper but has minor flaws in the tube which you wont notice unless you take the tube out to look at it(maybe a minor chip or crack). good luck!


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: durban_poison]
    #5691693 - 05/30/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, I know I should be more rural, but in this area....a cheap-ass house is 350k. We have land developed out the ass. No real rural areas to speak of. I am kind of stuck to doing a mountain/hill and some un-developed areas nearby. I don't even have a car, to be honest.
And yea, Mag, I know I should be happy that it was kids and not cops. In fact, moments after our discovery of the ruined plant, I told my friend "hey, could be worse. Could have been cops, man."
Rgeardless of this, it still sucks, I think we can all agree on that.

I am getting 5 lowryder seeds, and plan to produce as many seeds as possible using those 5. Then I hope to plant LowRyders amongst tall weeds in these hills, and see what happens. At least then I will be able to make a tiny bit of money, I hope, which should cover the cost of buying some more seeds and trying again. Growing weed is such a cool thing. The feeling I get knowing what I am doing, and watching something go through a life cycle from my own doing...it is awesome.


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    #5691731 - 05/30/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well if you are in a mountain region that is usually where the best outside herb comes from.


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    #5691749 - 05/30/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Not really large mountains where I can hide a small field or crop of 10 plants. More like a big ass hill that takes an hour or so to hike up (if you are like me and NEVER use the trails and prefer to climb up the steep and long way, with slippery rocks and funness) and has a cellular tower and communication equipment at the top. A hiking mountain. Remember, this is SoCal. It is not a lucious mountain with thriving plants. It it rocky and has bushes that are never a healthy shade of green. But I could probably hide some plants. But hiking to water would be a BITCH!!!


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    #5691808 - 05/30/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have never tried but water crystals should work a little. my friend used them because he had a bad drought the first year and added twice the recomended dosage. well the rain came and the crystals expanded lifting his plants out of the ground. just a warning about that. also my watch the paths they use to maintain the tower and stay away also make sure you arent in view of the top of the tower. if you can see it, then when they are up there they can see your patch.


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    #5692115 - 05/30/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They use a service road to get to the top. I don't really think the place is manned all that often. Only saw a truck roll up once, and I think it is because I opened a gate that said it was alarmed and stole a 10 gallon water jug (after a 2 hour hike...needed it).


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    #5692229 - 05/30/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey that be happy it was the cops was just me being a good mod. Now me myself I say hunt them down and killem.  :wink:


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Re: cali outdoor [Re: Magash]
    #5692257 - 05/30/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Umh....translator, anyone?


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    #5692277 - 05/30/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Any trees in the area. Grow in the tree tops.


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    #5692285 - 05/30/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No trees.
Thanks for the sugestion, though.


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    #5706418 - 06/03/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

2 month anniversary of my first seed planting :smile:


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    #5706467 - 06/03/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

got any pictures of this?


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    #5706520 - 06/03/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

man, 5 pics of babies in pots
get me all worked up over cali outdoor pics
false advertising


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Re: cali outdoor HAS PICS [Re: Jack_Straw]
    #5706535 - 06/03/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i think its pretty correct advertising man, its cali, its outdoor and theres pictures man :P he didnt say anything about Mature, Budding, Big or even species.



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    #5706543 - 06/03/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here


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    #5707208 - 06/03/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Mine? I don't know, they are bagseed, that's what :lol:

the ones in small pots are GWSxShiva


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    #5707262 - 06/03/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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    #5707509 - 06/03/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

is that your CROP of weed outdoors?
You are one ballsy motherfucker.


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    #5707651 - 06/03/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah but they sure are nice if they are his :laugh:


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    #5707755 - 06/03/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You breed at all, mag?


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    #5709467 - 06/03/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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You are one ballsy motherfucker.




he he he......I'm the smallet grower in my area.  :wink:


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Re: cali outdoor HAS PICS [Re: Magash]
    #5709698 - 06/03/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So you think you can hook me-

jk, but think you can help us out on creating a plant similar to lowryder, or stabilizing lowryder's phenotypes?


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Re: cali outdoor HAS PICS [Re: whatever123]
    #5709838 - 06/04/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah thatd be bad ass

Hey whatever123 take some new pictures of your plants man


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    #5709892 - 06/04/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'll see what I can do. They are doing kinda shitty. prolly need nutes. But, I'm broke as hell.


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    #5710011 - 06/04/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

jsut get some good soil or miricle grow plant food just to keep it on its feet for a while logner before u can get some good shit


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    #5710097 - 06/04/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You don't quite understand how broke I am, do you :smile:
I have the miracle grow, but the good shit.....hell' im too broke to buy more miracle grow. I don't save money, I make investments.


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Re: cali outdoor HAS PICS [Re: whatever123]
    #5710177 - 06/04/06 02:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well elts see a picture, can you go take one right now?


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    #5710184 - 06/04/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's 1 in the morning, sure. I might as well. ....no


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    #5710195 - 06/04/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

why not?


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    #5710211 - 06/04/06 02:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

why?


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    #5710230 - 06/04/06 03:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i wanna see, i havent seen a new pic, only old


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    #5710232 - 06/04/06 03:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yea, i know, but they look shitty, sorry to dissappoint.

anyways, i will see what i can do this week.


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    #5710235 - 06/04/06 03:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how tall are they


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    #5710240 - 06/04/06 03:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

no idea


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    #5710246 - 06/04/06 03:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wtf cant u check?


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    #5710252 - 06/04/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I live con mi madre, remember? These doors are not exactly quiet, and she doesn't sleep too heavily.


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    #5710257 - 06/04/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

maldiga que el coger aspira a hombre


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    #5710259 - 06/04/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

shitty


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    #5710260 - 06/04/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

demasiado sin embargo, pero dudo que cuidan, pero todavĂ­a no los dejo saber lol


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    #5772743 - 06/20/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

erh, yea. I don't speak spanish that well. Just enough to live in dego.


Bad news. I am sorta kinda a little bit under investigation and scrutiny by the police for some graff I did a few months back, so this grow has got to stop.
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    #5773046 - 06/20/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

brign your plants to me :yesnod:


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    #5781318 - 06/22/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

take care of them


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    #5783776 - 06/23/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thats shitty ur under investigations, shitty shitty shit man, watch out, might wanna try to clean up ur digi cam, and computer


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    #5822887 - 07/05/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It was my friend's cam (he is under investigation, too). deleted all photos off of imageshack, my comp, everything. Good news: I might be eligible for informal probation, where they don't search your place, and you don't really have a PO, and it is not really on your record. Bad news: remember my new pool? I got swimmer's ear cuz I used it so much, and it was so bad I couldn't sleep. Good news? Got vicodin for it :smile: Sorry for the shitty spelling, if there is any, but spell checking is just not what I am feeling like doing right now. I'm gonna go take some vicodin, the one tab I parachuted isn't doing shit for my pain. I was hoping it would act fast :frown:
Oh yea, I...umh...got rid of the plants. Couldn't have done it without Capedo glass! haha, yea, I know, stupid to smoke leaves and shit. Frankly, I don't care. Needed to get rid of them, and it got me hella blitzed. Probably because I haven't smoked in fucking FOREVER. Yea, I'm rambling. Sorry bout that.
Oh yea, good news, might start a mini-plant grow after this is all over and I know for sure how much surveillance I am gonna be under.

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