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Offlinesmokedogg5
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help please
    #530108 - 01/24/02 01:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i have just finished growing a patch of cubensis shrooms. i dont know the exact number yet around 4 pounds wet. i was wanting to know a few things if you people could help me out
1. how much should each mushroom way dry roughly?
2. can i dry them with a 500 wat halogin cause its really strong or only like a 60 watt normal light bulb
3. also some of my caps have not open or grew too big but they have opened (the skin under the cap has turn apart which it is supose to do). are they ready. cause they are still kinda small. but my friend told me when that happens to pick them. and it is good when they are small and have opened cause it is really strong. is that true.
any help would be thanked
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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530113 - 01/24/02 01:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

90% of the fruit is water, dry with a fan (halogens are too hot), all the shrooms are ready.


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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530116 - 01/24/02 01:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

4 POUNDS!!!

you know how to grow 4 pounds of shrooms but you don't know how to dry them?


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Re: help please [Re: XAZIA]
    #530120 - 01/24/02 01:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you beat me to it...


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Re: help please [Re: Olgualion]
    #530138 - 01/24/02 02:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

what do me dry with a fan? how do i do that?
this site says somewhere to lay out tisue put the shroms on it. then put a black t-shirt over the shrooms. then put a 60 watt ligth over it and leave it like that for 24 hours. is that wrong. what is the fan for. do you mean use the fan and the light at the same time to keep the temperature down. or just have shrooms on a tissue with a fan next to it
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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530171 - 01/24/02 02:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Another good method that might preserve the quality of your beauties (really 4 pounds worth???) is to make the drying chamber as recommended on this site. You need: a large, airtight container (like a tupperware/rubbermaid bowl), wire mesh or clean mesh bags that onions come in at the supermarket, and some Drierite or Damp-Rid (anhydrous calcium chloride)--this stuff is used as a dessicant for damp places like basements. The best part is that it's reuseable, after it's full of water you bake it and store it until you need it again! You can purchase a bucket pretty reasonably at a hardware store. So basically you make a level with the mesh near the bottom of the bowl for the dessicant, and another higher up for the mushies. Make *SURE* these two levels of mesh do not touch each other, this is why a fair sized bowl is key. The container should be covered with its lid and the water will collect in the bottom. When the mushies are rock hard, they are ready to be removed. This method is good because there is no exposure to heat or light, two causes of chemical breakdown of psychoactive compunds creating less potent mushies. After drying they will store indefinitely--as long as kept away from heat & light.


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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530172 - 01/24/02 02:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Drying and Preservation of the Mushrooms

Once you have grown and harvested some mushrooms, you need to think about preserving them. They will only keep for a short time in their fresh state. Sometimes a single mushroom needs to be harvested and it isn't enough for a dose. Other times, too many mushrooms will be fully grown for a single dose. Either way, you will be in a situation where you want to preserve them for later. And, even if this didn't happen, you may find your self in a situation where you simply don't have the time or inclination to trip. The good news is that if they are dried correctly, nearly all of the psychoactive compounds can be preserved for many months.

There are several ways to dry them, but we will only cover the best way. What ever you do, don't use heat to dry them. Heat is very harmful to the psychoactive compounds. You will drastically reduce the mushroom's potency if you use heat to dry them.

Materials needed:
?? wire mesh
old wash cloth or rag
Carton of Damp-Rid or Damp-be-Gone (Anhydrous calcium chloride)
Medium or Large Tupperware bowl with sealing lid

Several pounds of calcium chloride can be purchased for a couple of dollars at any large building supply outlet. It will usually be found in the paint department because it is used to dry the air in musty closets before painting and things like that. If possible, get the bulk refill containers. It will be cheaper than the calcium chloride that comes with the units to hold it and the moisture pulled from the air. You won't be using the unit, so don't buy it unless you have to.

The drying chamber needs to have a space at the bottom for water to collect. This allows the calcium chloride to function well for extended periods of time. As it pulls moisture from the air, it drips to the bottom of the chamber. The calcium chloride is held above the water by a circular section of the ?? wire mesh with a washcloth spread out on it. See the following diagram for details. The washcloth keeps the calcium chloride from falling through the wire mesh but any water that forms can drip through it to the bottom of the chamber.



The calcium chloride should be spread out evenly. If you use too large of a Tupperware bowl, you may have to add some structural strength to the screen in order for it to support the calcium chloride. You can simply lay a stick or ruler underneath the mesh and use tie wraps to secure the mesh to it.
Cut another circular section of mesh so that it fits above the calcium chloride and leaves a nice air gap. The mushrooms will be placed on this mesh in order to dry them. Make sure the calcium chloride is not touching the bottom of this screen. There should be an air gap between the top of the desiccant and the bottom of the screen. You do not want your mushrooms to touch the calcium chloride while they are drying because some of it will dissolve into the mushroom if this happens.

That is the entire preparation for preserving your mushrooms with minimal loss of potency. In order to dry your mushrooms, simply harvest them and place them on the wire screen. Close the Tupperware container so it is airtight. The mushrooms will shrink and shrivel over the next couple of days. After about three days, they will be fairly hard and contain very little moisture. If you are not pushed for space inside the drying chamber, you may was well leave them there for five or six days to thoroughly dry them.

After the mushrooms have been in the drying chamber for three days, they can be moved to a zip-lock bag for long-term storage. Remember that the dryer the mushrooms are, the longer they will keep Adaptation-18.

The reason this system works so well to dry the mushrooms is the calcium chloride is a good desiccant. It has a very strong affinity for moisture and can pull almost all the moisture out of the air. Eventually however, liquid will start to collect in the bottom of the drying chamber. Mushrooms are 92% water by weight. This moisture has to go somewhere when the mushrooms are dried, and it will eventually find its way to the bottom of the container.

When moisture starts to collect in the drying chamber you can simply drain it out and continue to use the old desiccant. The chamber will continue to work as long as there is sufficient calcium chloride in it. You should be careful not to contaminate the sides of the container or the top screen with residue from the desiccant. You do not want your mushrooms to touch the residue. For one thing, it tastes terrible, but in addition to this, the mushrooms will not dry completely. The residue will attract moisture. Whenever you empty the moisture, it is best to wash the Tupperware container completely.

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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530185 - 01/24/02 03:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

LOL, yea man, if you knew how to grow 4 pounds, you should be a massive bulk grower that should know a little about drying. Dont give it too much light. I would just leave them on a shelf and cover them with a paper towel. But if you have that much, you might look into using dessicant....you do know what that is right?


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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530188 - 01/24/02 03:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Just the fan


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Re: help please [Re: Shdwstr]
    #530198 - 01/24/02 03:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

search for:
jebus2000 drying tek

really though.....4 POUNDS!


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Re: help please [Re: Shdwstr]
    #530199 - 01/24/02 03:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

search for:
jebus2000 drying tek

really though.....4 POUNDS?!


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Remember, EGOISM is the beginning, the source, and the root of EVIL!

http://www.fanaticus.com/pf-tek.htm
http://www.mycotopia.net/teks/hongus.html


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Re: help please [Re: Shdwstr]
    #530572 - 01/25/02 12:36 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Damp-rid never worked for my friend.She just used a colander and a fan placed on top.24 hours later shrooms craker dry.


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Re: help please [Re: smokedogg5]
    #530583 - 01/25/02 12:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, just use a fan. I just rest a large fan facing down on a pile of 'em. In the winter months when the air is really dry, they take about 24 hours to dry. In the summer months when it's humid, it takes a bit longer.


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