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Re: What are the 3 things that make man who he is? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5303408 - 02/15/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever 3 things he thinks.


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Re: What are the 3 things that make man who he is? [Re: Springs]
    #5303425 - 02/15/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

M
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Just for the hell of it.


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: Darkcloud]
    #5303506 - 02/15/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have no understanding of what this has to do with philosophy or spirituality, nor why I must choose between 3.

But here we go with your ontical study:

1. Language
2. Culture
3. Whether he shits everything out in one sitting or holds part of it in.


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5303897 - 02/15/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Lakefingers said:
I have no understanding of what this has to do with philosophy or spirituality, nor why I must choose between 3.

But here we go with your ontical study:

1. Language
2. Culture
3. Whether he shits everything out in one sitting or holds part of it in.




You cant grasp the concept of this being in any way philosophical?


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5303958 - 02/15/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

realization of duality
concept of the self
morals


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5305377 - 02/16/06 01:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Philosophical -- in some vague manner that presupposes some understanding between stoners, people that speak a certain language (having a similar understanding of English) and those that share similar customs about "shooting the shit".

Being philosophy -- no, like almost all the posts in this forum there is no philosophy within.

Philosophy & Spirituality is more about building up one's ego and getting other's to agree with one depending upon a) who one is or b) what the first respondent to any thread-starter says. The philosophy here ausually starts and ends with consent and prejudice. Where's the openness, where's the intellectual rigor, where's the challenge and attempt to understand those that don't speak the obvious?


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5305388 - 02/16/06 01:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Lakefingers said:
Philosophy & Spirituality is more about building up one's ego and getting other's to agree with one depending upon a) who one is or b) what the first respondent to any thread-starter says. The philosophy here ausually starts and ends with consent and prejudice. Where's the openness, where's the intellectual rigor, where's the challenge and attempt to understand those that don't speak the obvious?




Philosophy is the way in which some people chose to interpret their enviornment. It provides some people with tools and basic constructs for making useful and meaningful decisons in their lives. It has very little to do with ego for the true lover of wisdom and much more to do with living a life that is palatable for the particular philosopher. Your understanding of philosphy is limited by your own philosophy inwhich you fail to open yourself up to other's definitions and manifestations of philosophy.


Obvious is relative and you should becareful using it to express your appreciation for wahtever it is you percieve to be cutting edge. What is obvious to me may not be so obvious to you, so you should take some time and ercet some basic consistent defintion for "obvious", so that we may all have parity in a place to start our rigorous philosophical debate. Lest some of us have a head start.


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5305415 - 02/16/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5305689 - 02/16/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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nakors_junk_bag said:
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Lakefingers said:
Philosophy & Spirituality is more about building up one's ego and getting other's to agree with one depending upon a) who one is or b) what the first respondent to any thread-starter says. The philosophy here ausually starts and ends with consent and prejudice. Where's the openness, where's the intellectual rigor, where's the challenge and attempt to understand those that don't speak the obvious?




Philosophy is the way in which some people chose to interpret their enviornment. It provides some people with tools and basic constructs for making useful and meaningful decisons in their lives. It has very little to do with ego for the true lover of wisdom and much more to do with living a life that is palatable for the particular philosopher. Your understanding of philosphy is limited by your own philosophy inwhich you fail to open yourself up to other's definitions and manifestations of philosophy.


Obvious is relative and you should becareful using it to express your appreciation for wahtever it is you percieve to be cutting edge. What is obvious to me may not be so obvious to you, so you should take some time and ercet some basic consistent defintion for "obvious", so that we may all have parity in a place to start our rigorous philosophical debate. Lest some of us have a head start.




Apparently I have made myself misunderstood. I was referring to the Philosophy & Spirituality forum.

If "Philosophy is the way in which some people chose to interpret their enviornment." What choice is there in the interpretation of one's environment?

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It provides some people with tools and basic constructs for making useful and meaningful decisons in their lives. It has very little to do with ego for the true lover of wisdom and much more to do with living a life that is palatable for the particular philosopher. Your understanding of philosphy is limited by your own philosophy inwhich you fail to open yourself up to other's definitions and manifestations of philosophy.




I've said nothing about my own understanding of philosophy, only my understanding of the "philosophy" that is enacted in this forum.

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Obvious is relative and you should becareful using it to express your appreciation for wahtever it is you percieve to be cutting edge. What is obvious to me may not be so obvious to you, so you should take some time and ercet some basic consistent defintion for "obvious", so that we may all have parity in a place to start our rigorous philosophical debate. Lest some of us have a head start.




This has little to do with what I implied with "obvious"; nonetheless maybe you were thrown off thinking I was speaking of philosophy in general and not the activity of this forum.

As I said: "where's the challenge and attempt to understand those that don't speak the obvious?" Aren't you grounding your statements on the self-evident (the obvious)? My point of things being obvious was to illuminate the general currents of arrogance and/or resting arguments upon unsaid self-evident presuppositions.

Perhaps now you can reinterpret what I said above?


Edited by Lakefingers (02/16/06 07:11 AM)


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Re: What are the 3 things that make a man who he is? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5305695 - 02/16/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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FungusMan said:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:




This response is a perfect demonstration of my point that this forum is ruled by a hegemony of the self-evident/ego-boosting.

Please, re-read my post. I would like to know if you have anything to say other than :thumbup:, which at this point I interpret as a pat on your own back and not the other poster's.

See: "Philosophy & Spirituality is more about building up one's ego and getting other's to agree with one depending upon a) who one is or b) what the first respondent to any thread-starter says. The philosophy here usually [sp corrected, Lakefingers] starts and ends with consent and prejudice. Where's the openness, where's the intellectual rigor, where's the challenge and attempt to understand those that don't speak the obvious?"  You've demonstrated, with :thumbup: that you agree with others based on who they are and what the first respondent said.

I ask you, or anyone else, to look through the threads here; you'll find that hegemonic consent is the meta-structure of the majority of threads. How is that equivalent to philosophical activity?


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