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InvisibleLiquidkick
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    #5299473 - 02/14/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I got my test back for nutrition class. And i totally questioned how i got a zero on one of the short answers, in class... and he still wouldn't give me points, then i got an e-mail about giving me 2 points. and i replied back with an e-mail, then he replies back and tells me i have disrespected him from the tone of the e-mail.

TONE OF A FUCKING E-MAIL give me a break.

email 1:


Mr. XXXXXX:

I have reconsidered your request. I added two points to your score because
verbally you seem to have some idea of what the question asked.

I hope you find this satisfactory.


NO I DID NOT FIND THIS SATISFACTORY.

Replied e-mail.

I don't like losing points on material that i know. Its my fault if i didn't know the material but i knew it. 4 points is 8% of the test. That can mean a huge difference between an A and a B.

Without the 4 questions you deleted i would have been stuck at 41 points. that would be an 82% requiring me to reach at least a 98% on my next test to break even to 90% mark. With the 4 points i would be at the 90% mark making life much easier for the next test. big difference 4 points make. There is no guareentee that you will even remove questions. Do you see my point on how points count? Not even taking into account homework and quizzes. The point scale is so small that these things matter.

You said even in lecture that mechanical digestion is to make things smaller for better chemical digestion which does increase surface area. And all the notes that i have implies that its to make food smaller and easier for chemical digestion. Thats a big difference compared to what chemical digestion does that actually seperate the nutrients that i stated. Mechinical doesn't seperate the nutrients down to the molecules like chemical digestion. So the test question asked a difference. I stated one.

Your question wasn't crystal clear then.


Replied e-mail to mine:

Mr XXXXXX:

I understand the point scale unquestionably. What troubles me here are
several things. First, your overwhelming lack of respect for me and the
clear absence of a simple "Thank you" for granting you two additional
points, bringing your exam score to 48 out of 50. I strongly suggest
you watch your tone via the emails you send or any other time you
address me. Are we clear on that sir?

In regards to the question about mechanical and chemical digestion, most
students in class understood it just fine and got all four points. It's
unfortunate that you didn't but there is a long way to go in this class.


Reply e-mail to that e-mail:

Please explain the lack of respect i have given you. I am merely questioning the short answer and disagree with your findings with my opinion. And have broken down the points that you said i should not be worried about.

That could be disrespectful to me that you said to not be worried about my points. Undermining my intelligence.

Respect is all subjective.

And i don't understand how you can imply a TONE that i have given thru an e-mail.


I do want a clarification on your PERCEPTION of RESPECT, and what type of TONE you percieve i have had with you.


Thank you for the points.





So yeah.. I am nitpicky about my points in the beginning because i want to slack off at the end, and i will confront when i think things are fucked.

He wants war, i'll give him war. I am on the senate too, and we have powers to look over professors contracts. I'll be joining that commitee.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299475 - 02/14/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I hate bullheaded teachers.


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Re: WOW [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5299477 - 02/14/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do you people think i was disrespectful?


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299480 - 02/14/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No. You just challenged his know-it-all position as a teacher. You implied that he did something wrong, that's why he's pissed. He's probably one of those teachers that thinks the student is always in the wrong and he can't be challenged.


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-Erik Davis


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299484 - 02/14/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you're gonna have a hard time in this class

I suggest you really know your stuff


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Re: WOW [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5299489 - 02/14/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ah, you guys so young...so naive.......


get used to this...it is life, ,it is the workplace...and a lot of times you will be right but not win...

its a bitter pill to swallow


but learn the lesson well


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Re: WOW [Re: goobler]
    #5299494 - 02/14/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah definitely. THis class might jack my 4.0. Last semester i had another professor that thought they were the shit and what not giving me a damn B for computer art class. I was like hold up!.. this aint right, i rechecked all my assignments and averaged an A. Turns out that she marked me absent 6 times. I misssed 3 fucking classes. Had a little chat with her.. grade changed. I have her again this semseter. I don't take shit like this, i want what i earned. And i shouldn't need to give thanks to shit that i have earned.

Do you thank someone when you buy a fucking big ass screen tv with your hard earned money? THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY MONEY. BLAH BLAH BLAH.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299500 - 02/14/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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First, your overwhelming lack of respect for me





I think this = k3y.
I believe there is an issue that stretches further than the content of those emails. It's an interpersonal matter you two should best resolve, and no matter how right you think you are I'd say it's best to be humble and hear out what the problem is. If I listen to your posdting comments here:

Quote:

TONE OF A FUCKING E-MAIL give me a break. (..) NO I DID NOT FIND THIS SATISFACTORY.





You didnt write this but if this is your attitude then you might indeed have low respect for the man which provides fuel for conflict. And like it or not: the chips on the table are your grades. So try to be humble and work this out, there will probably be a reasonable way to do this.

Soulsearch, admit your wrongs and carefully point out this isn't exactly fair.

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The tree, it snaps and falls to the ground
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Edited by Asante (02/14/06 02:52 PM)


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299502 - 02/14/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

learn to play the game


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    #5299513 - 02/14/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan:
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The reed, it bends and comes up again
The tree, it snaps and falls to the ground
The reed is stronger than the tree




Quote:

Goobler:
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learn to play the game




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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299529 - 02/14/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Skip the email BS and just slash his tires.

Aside from that, he controls your grade, so as said above just take it like a child molester in prison.


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Re: WOW [Re: Asante]
    #5299532 - 02/14/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, during the talk when i was disagreeing with him, i did say whatever a few times and thought he is full of shit. I never said he was full of shit though, i did storm off cause i was pissed.

And yeah, i'll play the game. I'll play the game with his job.

I did thank him for the points at the end of the e-mail.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299539 - 02/14/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I bet if you apologize - even though you've done nothing wrong - you'll score higher on the next exam.


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Re: WOW [Re: Adden]
    #5299551 - 02/14/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Man what 'college' do you go to? If I ever wrote one of my electrical engineering professors an email like that, theyd straight up kick me out of class. Or theyd make sure I never get into grad school. Honestly it was you who was being rude. I mean granted its a nutrition class which is bullshit, sorry if thats your major, but even still that would never fly here. Many professors are top people in their fields, and arent worried at fucking all about giving you some more points, or keeping your inflated GPA up, hell id probably take off all the points for an email like that.


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Re: WOW [Re: TheCow]
    #5299558 - 02/14/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Explain how i am being rude. EXPLAIN! I would have never ever questioned it if i didn't know jack shit about the short answer.

He wanted me to state specifically the exact difference which wasn't at all stated in the question.

It was only stated that describe a difference between mechanical and chemical digestion.

Yeah i could have thrown in all the terms, but the question didn't ask for it. He even said I don't want a long response. And i wrote done as brief as i could to ge the point across.


Am i undermining his intelligence? I am questioning the question itself.


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    #5299574 - 02/14/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I bet if you apologize (..) you'll score higher on the next exam.




Exactemundo.
You can succumb to anger of anime-like proportions



but sometimes you got to let it slide. Your interactions with the guy now probably are not so important ten years after. But your grades will be!

I'm seeing alot of anger and, yes, contempt in the way you write about him. Just or unjust, that has rubbed off on him and, just or unjust, he took offense. That makes it your problem.
Swallow your pride now or flip burgers later.

Tone down your anger, young padawan. Years later you'll be so happy you did :thumbup:


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Re: WOW [Re: Asante]
    #5299587 - 02/14/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Learning to play the game sucks, and can be humiliating. However, you (or someone) is paying a good amount of money to play that game. If it isn't what you want, try another path in life. But have a plan.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299590 - 02/14/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Liquidkick said:
Explain how i am being rude. EXPLAIN! I would have never ever questioned it if i didn't know jack shit about the short answer.

He wanted me to state specifically the exact difference which wasn't at all stated in the question.

It was only stated that describe a difference between mechanical and chemical digestion.

Yeah i could have thrown in all the terms, but the question didn't ask for it. He even said I don't want a long response. And i wrote done as brief as i could to ge the point across.


Am i undermining his intelligence? I am questioning the question itself.




What are you kidding me? Are you even in a university? Is your 4.0 beause you are a dance major? You have to put the fucking terms down, thats the whole fucking point. You cant just idly explain the shit, he wants 'exactly' what is going on. Itd be like me on a physics final just saying, so like we all know the wave function does this and this, and so I mean while Im not gonna do the mathand shit, we all know what kinda answer will come out, I mean isnt it obvious.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299591 - 02/14/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yes i am angry. I'll chill out, i await his clarification e-mail.

I don't get angry too often, but seriously this is ridiculous, its the question and wording, and he was like tough shit at first. I'll give in since it is my grade, for now.

But if i feel injustice again, i won't sit back.


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Re: WOW [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5299603 - 02/14/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

email him lemonparty


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