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kmIL
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best method for subsequent flushing?
#5299309 - 02/14/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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First time I grew I only did two flushes and my second flushes didn't produce many pins so I was hoping some of you experienced hands out there could answer some quick questions.
After harvesting a first flush, what is done to the case before it is dunked? I have heard to remove all pins but I have also heard that pins for the 2nd flush form during the first flush.
Do I remove the entire casing layer before dunking?
What depth should I recase at after dunking?
Is it necessary to sterilize the casing layer for the second flush (I know it might be better but it is a pain in the ass)?
and finally, Should I let the case incubate at all after dunking/recasing or should I put it straight to fruit?
I've read through all of the literature but have either found conflicting or no information on the above questions. If anybody has any quick answers to any of these I appreciate the help =)
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kmIL
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: kmIL]
#5303137 - 02/15/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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liloldme
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: kmIL]
#5303365 - 02/15/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would like an answer to this as well, for some crazy reason I suck after the first flush.
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: kmIL]
#5303394 - 02/15/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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kmIL said: After harvesting a first flush, what is done to the case before it is dunked? I have heard to remove all pins but I have also heard that pins for the 2nd flush form during the first flush.
Just remove the mature pins and pour water into your casing container until it floats. Wait for 10-12 hours, drain, patch, and put back into fruiting.
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kmIL said: Do I remove the entire casing layer before dunking?
No. The casing layer will be stuck to the substrate for the most part. Once you start dunking you really don't have to do anything else with the casing. The substrate is absorbing an enormous amount of moisture and kind of renders the casing layer useless, since that's what a casing layer does.
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kmIL said: What depth should I recase at after dunking?
There is no need to re-case the substrate as I stated above. If you feel the need, you may patch any exposed areas for protection. Not required mind you.
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kmIL said: Is it necessary to sterilize the casing layer for the second flush (I know it might be better but it is a pain in the ass)?
You should only be using casing mix that has either been pasteurized or sterilized. I prefer to use sterilized casing mix myself.
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kmIL said: and finally, Should I let the case incubate at all after dunking/recasing or should I put it straight to fruit?
Go straight into fruiting. If you are laying a new casing layer on, you could consider re-incubating. This is why I only recommend patching small areas that need it. Putting a new casing layer almost demands to be re-incubated.
Hope that helps.
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: Wronguy]
#5303406 - 02/15/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a great response 
The only thing I could add is maybe scuffing or little scratching the surface.
Though I am not that familiar with that tek as to give advise.
But I have been starting to try it.
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: Wronguy]
#5303969 - 02/15/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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On the money responce.
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Re: best method for subsequent flushing? [Re: agar]
#5304054 - 02/15/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Also remember subsequent flushes pins are already created in the initial pinset, I only recommend picking the aborts only. Also as Wronguy said keep that casing, understand the myc has spent alot of energy creating the network responsible for generating fruitbodies, you certainly don't want to waste the myc's energy recolonizing a casing layer again when that energy can be put into more fruits! Besides you'd destoy all those pins created in your initial pinset all n all it just would make any mycosense.
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