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Probably messed up
    #5298691 - 02/14/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

As many of you know, we at the northeast just had a pretty bad snow storm and I was at a friend's house during the storm and we got snowed in. He also lives in a basement which didn't help. Anyway, I had everything ready for the growing except for the pressure cooker, I was still going around trying to find a cheap one. We then decided to screw it and do it with steam. So here's where it starts.

We had no internet that day so all my directions came from surfing shroomery on my cell phone. First problem was I didn't know you had to mix the verm. water, and brown rice flour in a bowl. We just put the individual amounts in the jars and after realizing this, we emptied them all and started over. The mixing went alright.

Now we had to seal the jars for steaming them. After the holes were made, we put the first cap/lid on the jar, and put the foil over it, and then screw the foil in. No tape, so we forgot that.

Then for the steaming part, I took the top of a Christmas Popcorn lid and used it to elevate the jars from the bottom of the pot. This worked, but pressure built up in the lid and it started to jum. To fix this I took out the jars and made a bunch of holes in the lid and used it again. This time it whistled, so it was fine. We steamed it for a good 2.5-3 hours.

I put all the jars (11) in the popcorn bin and left it by the entrance doorway so it'll cool faster. If was maybe 35-40 degrees where it was, but room tempture was still around so it wasn't a cold chock. They stayed there for about 2 hours until the jar itself started to change from cool to cold. I figured this must be cool enough so I prepared to inoculate.

I didn't know you had to heat the needle until it is bright red, I just lit it up until the burn marks appeared, then I used a dis-infectent cloth to wipe the burn marks and to make it cleaner. I pumped in about 2cc's per jar, 4 holes/jar, .5cc/hole. Which I now realized is too much.
The next error was putting them upside down right away. Right afterwards I put all the jars back in the popcorn bin upside down and put the lid with the holes on it. I though under the sink would be a good warm spot so I left them there overnight, and went back last night to check and realized the wrong position and it was too cold there. I flipped the jars over and put the bin under a table next to the heater.

So, based on this nightmare, what would you say my chances of screwing it up are?

Oh, and I forgot to finish it up with extra verm. and instead just did a light sprinkle.


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Re: Probably messed up [Re: blvdeast]
    #5298743 - 02/14/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I say that chances are very high. You said you put the foil over the lid and under the ring? The foil is to block water from coming into the jars during PC'ing and should go over the entire lid and ring. You say you didn't use a dry verm layer on top, just "a sprinkle"? The verm is what protects contaminants from falling onto the BRF/verm mix through the holes in the jar, so I'd tape the holes if you haven't yet.

It seems like you rushed into this. This hobby takes alot of patience. Good luck to you and I hope I'm wrong and things work out for you.


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Re: Probably messed up [Re: FooMan]
    #5298754 - 02/14/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well right now they do have tape cause i was worried about stuff falling out when I flipped them. I covered it all with eletrical tape as soon as the syringe left the jar. It it was a sprinkle on top. If you shake the jar, the cake will bounce. I know I rushed but no internet didn't help. I'll give it 2 weeks before I decided to re-start with better info


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Re: Probably messed up [Re: blvdeast]
    #5298789 - 02/14/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Things may work out for you afterall. BTW, don't shake your BRF jars. :smirk:


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Re: Probably messed up [Re: FooMan]
    #5298874 - 02/14/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, shaking BRF is actually a bad idea because it will cause the BRF to compact. You want it as light and airy as possible, making it easier for the mycelium to colonize it. If it's packed too tight, it's likely the jars will just stall.


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Re: Probably messed up [Re: blvdeast]
    #5328652 - 02/22/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, here's what I got so far. No smell, no green or yellow. Just "chunnks" of white stuff. Any ideas on if its growth or contam? I know the pic is bad, I'll try to fire up my camera tonight for a better shot. Any hope so far? And only 3 oof the jars are showing this, the rest is still just brown



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