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bhamlaxy
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Fake or real
#5297120 - 02/13/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive done what i believe is acid twice. My friend, who is pretty into the drug scene and deals lots of weed and pills says that "true" LSD is impossible to find, and absolutely anything that is sold as LSD is some research chemical.
Is there any way, short of testing, to tell if its fake or not?
Any effects that will definitely prove whether its real or fake?
The hits were plain white, and had no taste. The peak of the trip lasted until about 6 hours, and after effects were felt for many hours, even the next day. The trip was pretty visual and very friendly. I do remember feeling very "on top", like i was really important.
If you have any questions about the nature of the trip or any tips that would help me identify real or fake acid, i would be really happy. Im buying one hit tommorow to see if its real so i can buy more.
Thanks!
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Re: Fake or real [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5297156 - 02/13/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The hits were plain white, and had no taste. The peak of the trip lasted until about 6 hours, and after effects were felt for many hours, even the next day. The trip was pretty visual and very friendly. I do remember feeling very "on top", like i was really important.
That sounds like Acid.
RC chems will have a taste. You friend has no idea what hes talking about.
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Edited by sui (02/13/06 09:30 PM)
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Re: Fake or real [Re: sui]
#5297168 - 02/13/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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RC's will have a taste
the effects and duration wont fit with those of LSD
Blotter RC chems are usually laid on thicker paper, and generally depending on the chem the blotters will be bigger.
True LSD is still around, i might buy some tonight actually. Its just that now there are RC's that can go on blotter its happening more and more.
LSD will ALLWAYS be around.
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Edited by sui (02/13/06 09:36 PM)
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Re: Fake or real [Re: sui]
#5297201 - 02/13/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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A lot of people, including many once-knowledgable hippies think that anything after december 31st 1969 is some sort of hybrid mega speed acid, or an RC.
These people are wrong. Acid tends to be weaker these days (unless you get those gels I hear so much about) so perhaps people are just totally let down. Maybe it has to do with which isomer is more present? Anyway, these people could never name which chemical you're getting instead of LSD, because they like to think of it as an array of hundreds of possible chemicals... any one of them capable of getting you at any time.
There are only a handful that have made large rounds on blotter: namely DOB, DOI, 5-MeO-AMT. DOC has made it around in small circles, though they were originally sold as DOC itself. Any dragonfly blotter besides a small batch of european stuff (which I've yet to see lab results on anyway) is totally debatable, and certainly not common enough to go worrying about.
Real acid is out there. Pickard didn't get busted for a DOB lab. He got busted with ergotamine and lsd. Ask your friend if they really didn't bother checking which chems pickard was making. Ask him why pickard might not speak up with an, "I wasn't making acid, I was making one of the many substitutes because acid is impossible to make now that the 60's hav edied." Or was he just so fond of his image as an acid chemist that he wouldn't trade his 2 life sentances?
Bleh, people suck. It seems like a lot of them want to feel special. They'd like to think that they got the only acid ever created in the world, and that it can never be made again. The funniest is when they start off on some, "Well, you can still find acid, but it isn't LSD-25. I hear all they've got now is (insert bullshit lsd number in assumption that there are dozens of different versions, but only one good one)."
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kaniz
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Quote:
Ive done what i believe is acid twice. My friend, who is pretty into the drug scene and deals lots of weed and pills says that "true" LSD is impossible to find, and absolutely anything that is sold as LSD is some research chemical.
Then your friend is full of it, and isnt in the right 'drug scenes'. It took me a long time to track down LSD, because most of my sources dealt in 'party drugs'. - E, meth, coke, GHB, etc. I'd ask them about LSD and they'd be "LS-wha?", "you know, LSD, acid?", "oh shit? I havnt even heard of that stuff since the 80s", and not even know what magic mushrooms were either.
While I'm not going to insult them as being stupid or uneducated, its just a realm of drugs that they had NO interest in, and no one that they knew had any interest in doing.
The world is a big place, and there are 'scenes' around beyond what your friend knows of or has access to.
There seemed to be a bit of a dip in LSD a few years ago, but from what I've been reading the past while, it's starting to gain in popularity again and more real/good stuff is comming out.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: kaniz]
#5299813 - 02/14/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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RC chems will have a metallic taste and casue nasuea as well. They will also be A LOT MORE INTENSE then lsd (at least amt) and will last for long periods of time. and usaully...in the end...the come down is a lot harder then lsd.
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liloldme
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What does rc stand for??
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Re: Fake or real [Re: liloldme]
#5379983 - 03/09/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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"What does rc stand for?? "
ive seen that question soooo many times lol, i once asked it myself. it stands for RESEARCH CHEMICAL. tattoo it on your head, its easy to forget heheheh
acid is still around, you just gotta find the right people, they are very underground and hard to get a good solid hold of, as the lsd people I know (i dont speak for everyone here, obviously) are the wisest people when it comes to wheeling/dealing.
lucy is very elusive
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Re: Fake or real [Re: indica]
#5379996 - 03/09/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I did a serch for rc 3 different ways, came up with nothing, try it and let me know if it's working for you plz..
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Re: Fake or real [Re: liloldme]
#5380269 - 03/09/06 05:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ACid is weaker Aye ? Methink 400 mcgs or so a hit isnt weak, methink most people only wanting one or two at a time making it rather strong - here anyway(hoffman millenium edition blotter)with the cool mountain, moon and bicylce pic. Methink you not think globally .me not amewican .
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Re: Fake or real [Re: Mirth]
#5380881 - 03/09/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote: "The peak of the trip lasted until about 6 hours, and after effects were felt for many hours, even the next day."
Sounds like too long of a duration for acid. Certainly not the next day. Could have been 5-meo-amt or Do(x).
The dude asking what RC's are is the guy who admits to giving their cat 2 hits of acid. F off & die you waste of human skin.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: JMP]
#5380889 - 03/09/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
JMP said: Quote: "The peak of the trip lasted until about 6 hours, and after effects were felt for many hours, even the next day."
Sounds like too long of a duration for acid. Certainly not the next day. Could have been 5-meo-amt or Do(x).
The dude asking what RC's are is the guy who admits to giving their cat 2 hits of acid. F off & die you waste of human skin.
I've had acid that lasted about this long and any RCs that can fit onto blotter have a peak that lasts quite a bit longer than 6 hours. Sounds like acid to me.
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kaniz
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Re: Fake or real [Re: abrad84]
#5381072 - 03/09/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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JMP - actually no, that sounds about bang-on for LSD.
From erowid...

The peak duration - 6 hours, then starts to taper off, with milder effects (but still very much tripping) untill the 12 hour mark.
And then there is the 'afterglow' period - which for me can last upto a day or two. I'm not 'tripping', but there is a change in me for a few days following.
You know - theres some times where I think I enjoy the come-down/after-glow of LSD more than the trip itself
But, typically I find - I wont be 100% back to baseline untill I get a good nights sleep. From the time the 'main trip' ends, untill the time I goto bed - I'll still be getting some visuals/etc - nothing over the top, more 'shadows moving in the side of my vision' and some minor CEVs/etc.
Hell, I havnt done any psychedelics in a few weeks - and I still get minor visual disturbances here and there :P
But to me, his trip sounded pretty much bang on for LSD. But, plain white hits - I've herd many reports of good plain-white blotter going around. Now, that doesnt make it 100% as anyone can lay anything on plain-white. But, I've heard alot of good stuff about the plain white that has been going around.
The lack of taste - bang on. As far as I know, any RC on a blotter has a very strong taste to it.
The peak? 6 hours - bang on according to erowid, feeling after affects for that long? seems pretty normal in my books.
Combine in with the 'friendly' high, visual nature and no mention of uncomfortable body load/etc.
I'd venture a bet, more likely than not - it was LSD and not an RC.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: kaniz]
#5382081 - 03/09/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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All righty, I retract. Not that I care much anyway, I was not holding said hits myself. Personally, I've never had a 6 hour acid "peak" & never felt the effects the next day..maybe just a bit tired. But you know, different folks...
Hey kaniz how come you don't post at the Lycaeum anymore? Shroomery more your speed, eh?
Edited by JMP (03/09/06 07:30 PM)
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kaniz
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Re: Fake or real [Re: JMP]
#5382377 - 03/09/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I still post on Lycaeum - just not as often. The forums tend to be a tad slow, or on topics that dont interest me as much. Changed my name there however - shypht there, its an old name I used to use on IRC way back when and decided to revive it.
or, they get into topics I find interesting - but go above/beyond what I know and cant really contribute to it. But, still enjoy reading.
I enjoy helping the 'new to tripping' users that seem to come here a bit more, and the Lycaeum seems to have alot more expierenced people who dont need the same type of advice 
Edited by kaniz (03/09/06 06:25 PM)
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Re: Fake or real [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5382706 - 03/09/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like real lsd. If you wanna make sure, you can put a blacklight over the tab, and it should glow if it has lsd. But your friend obviously doesn't know what hes talking about, I have friends really into all kinds of drugs that swear that ectasy is cut with heroin and coke and shit... Do the research on erowid and learn for your self, dont listen to those idiots out there.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: kaniz]
#5382713 - 03/09/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, shypht, I have seen you there recently. Cheers.
Edited by JMP (03/27/06 11:11 AM)
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LSD definitely has not decreased in potentcy since the late 60's. Yes, it is true that there is a lot cid going a round that is weaker than what would have been consdiered in "average hit" in the 60's, but there is still plenty of acid going around that I have found to be plenty strong enough. There is even a lot of high-potent blotter going around the city which to me, seems like they put to much acid per hit. People will take several thinking it will hit them just as hard as all the other acid they've been doing, but it will kick in extra hard because there is a much higher concentration of acid per blotter.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: pantsboy]
#5383161 - 03/09/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i got some plain blues, the peak seemed to last about 5 hours , my vision was clouded visuals, everythign around me flowing with color, i didnt really ave any spritual feel. slight euphoria but not much. just very very visual. think its still LSD. the first time i did LSD , i was told it was 'dank' shit, my visuals were not so lcouded but clear, moments of clarity, proportion was very distorted. i felt as if i had unlocked a secret. these two experiences have been VERY diffrent, i dont know what to think. any ideas?
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kaniz
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Re: Fake or real [Re: Damn]
#5383172 - 03/09/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, there are different batches of LSD - needle point, fluff, lavender, etc - of varying levels of purities.
Maybe one batch was just really pure/good LSD, and another batch was LSD that had more impurities in it?
While the impurities may not have psychedelic effects of their own - I wouldnt be supprised if they influenced trips and caused effects like body load or feeling 'speedy' and things like that.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: Damn]
#5383206 - 03/09/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Another possibility of why you had two different trips is because your body reacted differently to the LSD both times. Like any other drug, the overall trip is also largely impacted by the setting in which you take it and the mood you are in beforehand. There can be times where a person will trip harder on one hit then he does on three hits of the same batch, simply because of time, location, and the person's mood coming into the trip.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: pantsboy]
#5383235 - 03/09/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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a bit off topic, but I'd also advise against drinking heavily before tripping. The drunk body-buzz can end up feeling /VERY/ gross while on LSD - espically once you go from buzz to would-be hangover mode.
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Re: Fake or real [Re: kaniz]
#5383424 - 03/09/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stick with that blotter if you can. It definitely sounds real to me. Enjoy.
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