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InvisibleMystikMushroom
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Need help interpreting vision!!
    #5296543 - 02/13/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've been trying to contact my inner-animal (totem or power animal) to help move me in the direction of deepening my Shamanic abilities.

It didn't really take to long for me to discover what animal it was, without a doubt I have Fox Medicine with me.

In my vision, I saw a fox about 10 feet away from me. I held out my right hand (I am right handed btw if that makes any diffrence), palm upwards to encourage it to come to me.

When it came to my hand instead of sniffing it, it started to tear my hand appart. It didn't hurt, and there was no malevolent intention sensed at all. I knew it was only "representative" of some message the Fox wanted me to know. I haven't the faintest.

I think the reason my connection with Fox has wanned in the last few days is because I can't assign a meaning to his first message. It's almost like a test--to see if im ready to work with him.

I've already read all about the Fox and what it's essence's are...but I don't understand the significance of him eating, and ripping my fingers off my hand.  :confused:

Anyone? :heart:


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5296607 - 02/13/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the only thing i think at first is that perhaps you have crippled yourself spiritually somehow?


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5296652 - 02/13/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would think it had to do with the expression of "biting the hand that feeds you" perhaps it wanted you to experience what its like to have something you care about bite your hand up when you extended it in kindness to them.

Is there anyone in your life that cares for you that you may be doing that to like a parent, sibling,  significant other, best friend or teacher?

Just a guess. I don't know what the fox teaches us. I'll grab a quick passage from another site and post it.

:peace: :heart:


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5296821 - 02/13/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

All the stuff I just read you probably did. The only thing I caught that may apply is that one of the things it teaches us in to be gentle. Perhaps you have been gnarling away at something and like leery suggested, it may be your own higher self in spirit that is reaching its hand out to you and you have been biting away at it.

:shrug:

Meditate on it and ask to be shown more. :thumbup:

:peace: :heart:


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5296961 - 02/13/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The death and dismemberment theme is stong in shamanic traditions. Perhaps this is symbolic of the ego-death and dismemberment you must face to truly use fox medicine?


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InvisibleMystikMushroom
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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: Gliders]
    #5297139 - 02/13/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I really feel that this is my path...even if I have to have a "regular job" to buy things like food or whatever, I just know that I'm supposed to learn and teach others what I learn. If I ever get to a point where I feel like I can heal others, I will attempt to do so. Neo-Shamanism I guess...I just have a strong pull to the archaic. My cultural background is Celtic...so I carry a full set of Elder Furthark runes with me around my neck.

I concentrated on the power of the Fox this weekend when my guy friends drug me out the bars. I sat on the sides and observed...blending in and being camoflauged. It was amazing...I was seeing interactions between people that helped me totaly "read" the room.

Just like how the Fox has a little flair, I got out solo (no one else dancing at all) on the dancefloor and before to long the whole place was packed with other people. LOL.

I'm aware that as we learn and grow our animal helping spirits change, so what is the Fox in my life right now might be a wolf or a bear later in life. I'm supposed to learn somthing here...i just don't know where to start.

Thanks for the ideas so far guys..i have to say that I'm a happy person and I can't think of anyone in my life that i've been "grouchy" or mean with.


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5300098 - 02/14/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The first power that the ancient shaman sought was dominance over the animals. This makes perfect sense if you consider what it must have been like to live in a world where humans had not yet secured their position at the top of the food chain.

Being eaten by the fox seems bad to me. It represents a digression in humanity to a time when people were often the food of lower animals. The fact that you were unconcerned by the experience of being eaten, however, may be good, because it represents becoming one with the fox, without loosing your humanity. There is much that can be learned from the fox, but always remember that your familiarity with the fox must always remain secondary to your humanity.


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: shroomydan]
    #5302291 - 02/15/06 06:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm... not to bypass the purpose of the thread, but I can't help noting how each individual's response to the original poster actually paints more of a picture of who THEY are through their interpretation than it does necessarily interpret the dream.

Not that that's bad or anything... I just think it neat. :smile:


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #5302724 - 02/15/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What else can one do but interpret it how they would if they had that dream? It only paints a picture of how they would first interpret the dream based on symbols they are familiar with.

It was mystiks dream and they are a personal thing so ultimately, he has to do the interpretation as it only has message, lesson, guidance and meaning to his life. I would meditate and ask questions to get more insight on it myself.

I had another idea. As fox are also cunning and deceptive, it makes you wonder why mystic trusted it so easily in the dream. Perhaps it was a lesson for mystic about getting to know people better before so easily placing trust in them. It could have been a warning of sorts for him not to so readily extend his hand out in trust of others, before getting to understand their intentions for knowing him. :shrug:

In some shamanic traditions, some totems are in the messenger family. They bring messages of prophecy or warning from their realm. If one is working with you, it will also work to help you avoid anything bad or to accomplish something good that it is for telling about as well.

Its up to mystikmush to relate his experiences with the fox to those in his personal life.  We can throw out possibilities and he can see what fits and then apply them.

Working with totems is more of a process that can go on for months. I'll post some links later. Think of how long it takes to study and train for shamanism. It's an art form that isn't figured out over night. People are finding totems working with them who know NOTHING about the shamanistic traditions or ways. I know little "formally" about it myself, just bits and pieces I pick up reading here and there. There's A LOT to it though.

:peace: :heart:


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5303590 - 02/15/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5303736 - 02/15/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have been trying rather hard to get laid or find a woman of some sorts latley...perhaps it *could* have been a warning not to let myself be "eaten alive" by whomever I should come across in the near future...

I think I might be able to do a runecast for this -- anyone have any experience in this area? I'm rather new but have a personalized/bound set that I'm learning to work with.

Perhaps I could call up clarifiying answers from my own psyche through the selection and meaning of the runes...???


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5303807 - 02/15/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I havn't worked with ruin casting. Glad you found something going on in your life that could fit your being given a warning message through example not to be to quick to trust the next woman that comes along. She could be a cunning deceptive fox and may have aids or herpes or eyes on your pocket book or something and could lie to you about it. :shrug:

Maybe read up on how to do shamanic journeying to help you see more behind the scenes.

:peace: :heart:


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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (02/15/06 08:11 PM)


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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5306114 - 02/16/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MystikMushroom said:
I've been trying to contact my inner-animal (totem or power animal) to help move me in the direction of deepening my Shamanic abilities.

It didn't really take to long for me to discover what animal it was, without a doubt I have Fox Medicine with me.

In my vision, I saw a fox about 10 feet away from me. I held out my right hand (I am right handed btw if that makes any diffrence), palm upwards to encourage it to come to me.

When it came to my hand instead of sniffing it, it started to tear my hand appart. It didn't hurt, and there was no malevolent intention sensed at all. I knew it was only "representative" of some message the Fox wanted me to know. I haven't the faintest.

I think the reason my connection with Fox has wanned in the last few days is because I can't assign a meaning to his first message. It's almost like a test--to see if im ready to work with him.

I've already read all about the Fox and what it's essence's are...but I don't understand the significance of him eating, and ripping my fingers off my hand.  :confused:

Anyone? :heart:





Maybe the only way to wholly know your totem is to completely let go of your human form.  A sort of breaking down and rebuilding has to take place.

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Re: Need help interpreting vision!! [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5311576 - 02/17/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It's really simple. You fed your spirit animal your own flesh. What a grand offering. Now you simply must be friends. Like Buddha giving the tiger his blood to drink, or Joshua and the lion and thorn...


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