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Koala Koolio
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5296770 - 02/13/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You really won't want to mix l with rue. It will make it unpleasant, in my opinion. Not worth saving a hit with.
Oh, and check out the edit button... or someone will accuse you of post whoring one day. (just watched an extreme example in the cultivation forum... the guy seemed kind of offended when the mod told him.)
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5296820 - 02/13/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It does work with lsd but not as much as a potentiating substance, but as more of a simple additive. Maois work well with mescaline but you need to be more careful with that mix. Its the only Psychedelic Phenethylamine that can be used with maois safely to my knowledge.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: stemmer]
#5296848 - 02/13/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what kind of diet is recquired when taking an MAOI?
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Koala Koolio
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: Freeker]
#5296959 - 02/13/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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www.erowid.org
Sorry, but for this one you need a complete answer. Read up, it's your own health.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5297249 - 02/13/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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so do you say MAOI or... M - A - O -- I ???
hmm edit button.. ill look into that. 
anyone ever mix rue or lotus with salvia?
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5297363 - 02/13/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really wouldn't mix anything with salvia. Stop trying to use the free gifts as some sort of mega-high. Rue isn't really something to fuck around with. Most would agree the same about salvia.
"Syrian rue is an M.A.O.I. (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) "
On account of it is an abbreviation, how do you think you pronounce it? Hehe. Maoi? We're not just "shouting" it to you every time. hehe...
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5297843 - 02/14/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not pronounced as a word. It's M-A-O-I.
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agoutihead


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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: BataviaVakereli]
#5298223 - 02/14/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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but i am looking for the mega high. hehe.
ive done plenty of psychedelics... so i know what to expect from them.
obviously i would proceed with caution if i would be adding an maoi... i would like to try it with shrooms since dmt isnt available by me.
i will be doing salvia just on its own the first few times so i can get an idea of what its like.
how did they extract alkaloids hundreds of years ago?
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298324 - 02/14/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
agoutihead said:
how did they extract alkaloids hundreds of years ago?
They didn't, they brewed it into Ayahuasca. You should be able to find recipes on Erowid.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: abrad84]
#5298413 - 02/14/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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They didnt do extracts, they made teas/brews or just ate them whole. Now, how did they figure out that you needed to take a MAOI before the DMT would be orally active?
that is beyond me
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: abrad84]
#5298431 - 02/14/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what exactly is a TRYAMINE?
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298435 - 02/14/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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kaniz...eating them whole isnt as effective as brewing or extracts though are they?
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298444 - 02/14/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Back then, they wernt looking at 'the most effective ways of getting fucked up'
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: kaniz]
#5298455 - 02/14/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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As far as effectiveness goes, one shouldn't question ayahuasca without having done it.
The "mega high" might be something work seeking. But it's just stupid to try to achieve it by mixing random botanical samples sent to you by a vendor. Rue and Salvia? No way man.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5298654 - 02/14/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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come on now elgr... why do you think im here?
im asking what if... not... what happened.. big difference.. i always do my research on things.. 
and remember.. im not some punk just trying to figure out the most effective way to get fucked up, i used to be like that yes... but now i dont do drugs just go get fucked up... yes its still a nice side effect... but now i am only interested in how far i can push my mind and the knowledge i can learn from such experiences.
and since there is no dmt around me... i wont be drinking an ayahuasca.
-------------------- "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert "Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye." "Experience the liquid realm..." "The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298723 - 02/14/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
agoutihead said: and since there is no dmt around me... i wont be drinking an ayahuasca.
Just order some MHRB or some other DMT containg plant.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298730 - 02/14/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well the first one is SHANIN (Petunia violacea) is one of the most recently reported hallucinogens. It is taken by the Indians in Ecuador to induce the sensation of flight. Although an alkaloid of unknown identity has been reported from this species of petunia, phytochemical investigation of petunias is urgently needed.
Some 40 species of petunias grow in Sauth America and in warmer parts of North America. Members of the nightshade family, Solanaceae, they are closely allied to the genus Nicotiana (tobacco). Petunia violacea as well as other species are horticulturally important. Cultivated varieties, with their attractive, funnel-shaped blooms, are popular garden flowers that bloom profusely throughout the summer months aka its like belladona and sacred is much like white lotus euhporiate its pretty mellow and blissful i recomend drinking a couple bears then smoking some or mix with pot and it will give the pot a nice taste same goes for the blue lotus and rue stops break down of dmt,psilos,and other tryptamines althou on its own its has vaious effects you should really just go to erowid and look it up you got a really good spread there but i wouldnt touch the petunias maybe grow them just for fun to have a little plant
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: thedudenj]
#5298810 - 02/14/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the petunia seeds are REALLY small... maybe got 150 of them.... so thier not worth my time to try and extract anything?
as far as extracting my own dmt... i will probably one day... but im not at the level of understand and knowledge to make anything worth while.
so the sacred lotus is best smoked with weed? should i just put a pinch... or is there a way to weigh it out? i have sacred lotus that looks like tobacco and sacred lotus 5x extract.
i will reserve the rue seeds for when i want to make an extract for a mushroom trip.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: agoutihead]
#5298849 - 02/14/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't need to extract DMT to make Ayahuasca, in fact if you did it wouldn't strictly be Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is brewed from the raw plant material.
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Re: help me identify these herbs i received from shamanspalace.com please..... [Re: abrad84]
#5299019 - 02/14/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmm intersting... so i brew the raw plant for the dmt... and then i brew the MAOI... do i brew them TOGETHER... or SEPARTLY... and then add once that is finsihed?
-------------------- "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert "Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye." "Experience the liquid realm..." "The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann
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