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Offlinedjsage420
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Glove box fan ??
    #5295710 - 02/13/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow its been a while since I posted a question,
I have a glovebox allready and I want to make it positive air box because the lysol seems to effect everything I do inside of it, I just made 10 spore syringes and the spores wont germinate they are dead and i think Lysol is the culprit.
My question is as dumb as it sounds does the fan blow into or out of the glovebox, somthing tells me its into the box but I want to make sure before I waste any more time on this.


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295735 - 02/13/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have a pc type fan, you can get a radio shack though I'm sure there are better places and it is going though a small hepa filter.

I gave up on the gloves, so the air comes out of the arm holes. I also used Silicone on the underneath side of the lid, to help force the air out of the arm holes.


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295759 - 02/13/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

still air boxes are better.


but if you insist on putting a fan onto your glove box...

you want the air blowing in.

and make sure you have a good filter to keep the contams out.


tc


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5295840 - 02/13/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
still air boxes are better. tc




:thumbup: Still air is FAR BETTER.

Mine is still air. :grin:

I do have a 6 inch square patch of medical grade TYVEK on the outside & another facing in on the INSIDE (1/4 inch space between the 2).

Which allows for passive gas exchange.
So that evaporation can effectively take place.

I simply spay the inside with a light mist of H202.
Wipe that down with a sterile pad.
Then use another sterile pad to wipe the inside down with 70% alc.
Then let it evaporate. :wink:


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5295842 - 02/13/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well if still air boxes are better, then why is everything I do inside there end up dead?
This is what I do
Use lysol to clean out box, (wipe sides bottom top and gloves with Lysol)
With lid open I give a good spray about a foot above box and close lid.
Wait 15 mins (I also tried waiting an hour)
Then work
My problem isnt with contams nothing has been contaminated inside of the box, its just that nothing grows, Ive tried Agar plates-(no growth) and syringes
Roadkill or Agar what would you suggest I do?


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295879 - 02/13/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Lay off the LYSOL. :wink:

As something is killing your stuff & that must be it.


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295884 - 02/13/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wipe down the inside of my box with 99% alcohol...cause it dries faster than 70%.

I spray the air with Oust and put the lid on...I don't use Lysol.

I wait 15 to 20 minutes and go at it.

I've never had a problem with contams or killing spores or cultures in the box.

link to my still air box...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4359637/an/0/page/0


tc


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295887 - 02/13/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well it seems like you know what your problem is...

The Lysol.

On the advice from Roger Rabbit. I have been just using soap and water to clean mine or I use isopropanol alcohol.

Haven't had a problem making syringes or doing G2G.

Edit:
Well looks like I'm a little slow....ahh well I'll throw my two cents at ya anyways.


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5295913 - 02/13/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

3 more questions
Agar- will synthetic filter discs for jars work for that vent you where talking about?

RK- Is that a vent in upper left hand corner of box in your first pic,
and Ive been having some meanie greenie problems latley Im a painter and Im working on a building thats covered in it, Im sure that Im bringing it home with me, should I really ditch the gloves?


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295926 - 02/13/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't trade my posi flow glovebox for a still one . Makes loading and unloading quart jars for G2G too easy . I can do 4 cases of quarts with never having to open it , re sterilize it and wait for things to settle  . If you build one correctly they work like a champ  :thumbup:

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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5295956 - 02/13/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yes

thats a vent that I built into my box.

I used pvc fittings and a filter disc to make the vent.



Ignore Hippiechic she gets alot of contams!~

j/k

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Who the hell you callin crazy?
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Brainiac said:
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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5296007 - 02/13/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Roadkill said:

Ignore Hippiechic she gets alot of contams!~

j/k

:smirk:





Lol Ive been looking at her work for a year now, and I built my greenhouse like hers (only I use a ultra sonic also).. she does great work.
So now Im conflicting between two growers that I greatly respect. I guess I can make it still air with filter and clean with alcy, then if that doesnt work Ill use that same hole to use a hepa filter and fan....


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5296086 - 02/13/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think my Bro was kidding , lol .

I don't always use mine as a posi flow , I also use it as a still . Just depends on what I'm doing .

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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5296106 - 02/13/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oh I know he was kidding- so was I.
I was just mentioning how two people say two opposite things that i know I can trust.. kinda like "which way do I go George"......


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5296171 - 02/13/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The problem with posi flow boxes is they HAVE to be built right . No air can enter anywhere but through the HEPA filter , and it has to be a good one . The little one I used on my glovebox was $40 . Just like a flow hood . They are great , as long as they're constructed properly .

You don't really need a posi flow . I just love to build things and I do a lot of G2G.

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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5296275 - 02/13/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i JUST built my GB recently. it's a still air as of now.
i used the 4'' pvc end caps like Roadkill. i also used a bit of dryer ducting and heavy rubber gloves. already i dont think i'll like using the gloves how they are.

i was wondering about the lid...

do you guys all just get plexiglass or lexan cut to use as a lid?


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: krill]
    #5296319 - 02/13/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My glovebox came with a clear lid, not as clear as plex, but Ive seen the proccess many times in detail before so I dont need it that clear...
I did use copper gasket maker for the lid though so it has a tight seal when closed.


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: djsage420]
    #5296374 - 02/13/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I just use the lid mine came with also . Set a light on top and I can see just fine



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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5296415 - 02/13/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hey HippieChick...

where you get gloves like that?
the longest ones i can find are 13" and that is WAY WAY too short!


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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: krill]
    #5296469 - 02/13/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Home Depot . They aren't with all the other gloves , Check out the Haz Mat gloves . Think they were around $8 .

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Re: Glove box fan ?? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5296503 - 02/13/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

WORD.
and, wouldn't ya know... i think i'm still HAZMAT certified! lol
no - seriously.

thanks :smile:


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