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CubensisCutter
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plans for 1st casing, help please
#5295154 - 02/13/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i have 4 BRF cakes that are alsmot fully colonized and i decided i am going to try to case them. On the casing 101 tek is shows the dude breaking up 1 cake and putting it in a foil tray, then spreading that across 1/2 inch layer or wet verm. 1. it does not specify how wet it should be, should i make it the same wetness that i did when i was first putting BRF and verm into the jars? the tek says to layer the dry verm and then spray it, but since this is my first time i think that if i do it that way then i wont use the correct amount of water. how important is it to get the correct amount of water? 2. should i use 1 cake per tray like the tek shows or does it not matter? 3. any reccomendations for tray sizes? 4. after the crumbled cake is added it says to add a layer of pre-sterilized casing mix. i have been told to use either vermiculite or jiffy mix since they are the easiest for a first timer. any reccomendations as far as that goes? 5. now it says to cover with aluminum foil and put it in a warm place for a few days.. back into the TIT ??? am i supposed to poke holes in the foil ? 6. my FC is a 66 qt rubbermaid and i only think i will be able to fit 2 trays at once...is there anyway to store a colonized PF cake for later use without harming it at all? 7. i found a cool mist for 5$ at the place where i work communtiy service. i have read people using this along with an UH but could i just use the cool mist by istelf? i have some perlite also. what do u think i should do, cool mist or perlite
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kanpan
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
#5295245 - 02/13/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. I don't use vermiculite under crumbled cakes but if I were to I would just make it damp. It isn't needed though.
2. You can use more than one cake per tray. a depth of 3 or 4 inches is best IMHO.
3. Whatever you have. Plastic is better but not see through. If light can get through line with aluminum foil.
4. Jiffy mix will work but I like to add more vermiculite to the jiffy mix.
5. Yep back in the TIT. poke a few holes.
6. Yes you can store them for a while in the fridge but you could just make a deeper substrate with it.
7.perlite. and hand fan at least twice a day. more if possible.
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coda
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: kanpan]
#5295292 - 02/13/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thats pretty good info right there, except, i would just add (IMO) that the bottom layer really should go. With a correct casing layer moisture, and optimal RH and temp levels, you wont need the extra moisture. Plus you leave yourself open a little more to contams and they can start on the bottom which means you might not see it for a bit.
That's just my .02 tho, if you want to use it go for it. Make sure to keep the top casing layer at about 1/4 inch tho, no more then 1/2 inch either because that will delay growth and promote a poor pinset.
Read this Pinning Strategy by hyphae. It's an excellent guide on how to achieve the best pinset, its easy to follow, and trust me it works damn well .
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Edited by coda (02/13/06 03:14 PM)
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CubensisCutter
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: kanpan]
#5295320 - 02/13/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks 1. so your saying to make the cakes the bottom layer? 2. is there a certain ration for your jiffy mix/verm combo? 3. is jiffy mix pre-sterilized or will i have to microwave it? I was going to use Jiffy Mix becasue i was told it already has a balanced pH. when using only vermiculite do you have to balance the pH with anything? when mixing jiffy/verm should i balance the pH?
Thanks again
p.s. DAMN coda those look tasty...what are the grwoing from? also this might be a stupid question but just occured to me...
would "dunking" the cakes before i case them do anything or will it just fuck them up
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Edited by CubensisCutter (02/13/06 03:21 PM)
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
#5295344 - 02/13/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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About the cool mist, here's what I did:
I'm not sure how big my tub is, but it's pretty big, bottom is about 1 foot by 3 feet.
I sealed the original exhaust and drilled 4 holes 5/8 inch diameter (that was the outside diameter of the smallest garden hose I could find)
I started with just 2 holes (for 2 fruiting chambers) but decided that since I was running the cool mist 24/7, the airflow was excessive (and positive pressure in the humidifyer caused it to leak BAD). After drilling the extra holes (which just vent into the room) I get low volume air intake into the FC. The humidity in the FC is 99 percent from just one 5/8 inch hose! I could run 4 tubs off 1 Vics if I wanted. And yes, there's plenty of FAE, if anything was going to contam, it would have already after 4 months. I add a glug (about 1/8 cup) of hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water.
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
#5295364 - 02/13/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes cakes then a thin 1/4 inch layer of jiffy mix. I just throw in a few handfuls of vermiculite to the jiffy mix and mix it up. Straight jiffy will work I just like more vermiculite. And yes microwave it but add some water first. Enough water to make it field capacity. So when you squeeze it a few drops run from a handful.
ENJOY
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
#5295374 - 02/13/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
CubensisCutter said: p.s. DAMN coda those look tasty...what are the grwoing from? also this might be a stupid question but just occured to me...
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-------------------- To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . . -JG i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug* -A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
 Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.
Edited by coda (02/13/06 03:29 PM)
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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: coda]
#5371951 - 03/06/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what size pans? how many cakes in each pan? how much vermiculite on bottom , top and mixed in?
if there is some kind of ratio for the mix of colonized substrate and vermiculite that would be helpful.
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