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plans for 1st casing, help please
    #5295154 - 02/13/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i have 4 BRF cakes that are alsmot fully colonized and i decided i am going to try to case them. On the casing 101 tek is shows the dude breaking up 1 cake and putting it in a foil tray, then spreading that across 1/2 inch layer or wet verm.
1. it does not specify how wet it should be, should i make it the same wetness that i did when i was first putting BRF and verm into the jars? the tek says to layer the dry verm and then spray it, but since this is my first time i think that if i do it that way then i wont use the correct amount of water. how important is it to get the correct amount of water?
2. should i use 1 cake per tray like the tek shows or does it not matter?
3. any reccomendations for tray sizes?
4. after the crumbled cake is added it says to add a layer of pre-sterilized casing mix. i have been told to use either vermiculite or jiffy mix since they are the easiest for a first timer. any reccomendations as far as that goes?
5. now it says to cover with aluminum foil and put it in a warm place for a few days.. back into the TIT ??? am i supposed to poke holes in the foil ?
6. my FC is a 66 qt rubbermaid and i only think i will be able to fit 2 trays at once...is there anyway to store a colonized PF cake for later use without harming it at all?
7. i found a cool mist for 5$ at the place where i work communtiy service. i have read people using this along with an UH but could i just use the cool mist by istelf? i have some perlite also. what do u think i should do, cool mist or perlite

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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #5295245 - 02/13/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

1. I don't use vermiculite under crumbled cakes but if I were to I would just make it damp. It isn't needed though.

2. You can use more than one cake per tray. a depth of 3 or 4 inches is best IMHO.

3. Whatever you have. Plastic is better but not see through. If light can get through line with aluminum foil.

4. Jiffy mix will work but I like to add more vermiculite to the jiffy mix.

5. Yep back in the TIT. poke a few holes.

6. Yes you can store them for a while in the fridge but you could just make a deeper substrate with it.

7.perlite. and hand fan at least twice a day. more if possible.


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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: kanpan]
    #5295292 - 02/13/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thats pretty good info right there, except, i would just add (IMO) that the bottom layer really should go.  With a correct casing layer moisture, and optimal RH and temp levels, you wont need the extra moisture.  Plus you leave yourself open a little more to contams and they can start on the bottom which means you might not see it for a bit.

That's just my .02 tho, if you want to use it go for it. :smile:  Make sure to keep the top casing layer at about 1/4 inch tho, no more then 1/2 inch either because that will delay growth and promote a poor pinset. 

Read this Pinning Strategy by hyphae.  It's an excellent guide on how to achieve the best pinset, its easy to follow, and trust me it works damn well :laugh:.



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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: kanpan]
    #5295320 - 02/13/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks
1. so your saying to make the cakes the bottom layer?
2. is there a certain ration for your jiffy mix/verm combo?
3. is jiffy mix pre-sterilized or will i have to microwave it? I was going to use Jiffy Mix becasue i was told it already has a balanced pH. when using only vermiculite do you have to balance the pH with anything? when mixing jiffy/verm should i balance the pH?

Thanks again


p.s. DAMN coda those look tasty...what are the grwoing from? also this might be a stupid question but just occured to me...

would "dunking" the cakes before i case them do anything or will it just fuck them up


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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #5295344 - 02/13/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

About the cool mist, here's what I did:

I'm not sure how big my tub is, but it's pretty big, bottom is about 1 foot by 3 feet.

I sealed the original exhaust and drilled 4 holes 5/8 inch diameter (that was the outside diameter of the smallest garden hose I could find)

I started with just 2 holes (for 2 fruiting chambers) but decided that since I was running the cool mist 24/7, the airflow was excessive (and positive pressure in the humidifyer caused it to leak BAD). After drilling the extra holes (which just vent into the room) I get low volume air intake into the FC. The humidity in the FC is 99 percent from just one 5/8 inch hose! I could run 4 tubs off 1 Vics if I wanted. And yes, there's plenty of FAE, if anything was going to contam, it would have already after 4 months. I add a glug (about 1/8 cup) of hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water.

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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #5295364 - 02/13/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yes cakes then a thin 1/4 inch layer of jiffy mix. I just throw in a few handfuls of vermiculite to the jiffy mix and mix it up. Straight jiffy will work I just like more vermiculite. And yes microwave it but add some water first. Enough water to make it field capacity. So when you squeeze it a few drops run from a handful.

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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #5295374 - 02/13/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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CubensisCutter said:
p.s. DAMN coda those look tasty...what are the grwoing from? also this might be a stupid question but just occured to me...




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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.


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Re: plans for 1st casing, help please [Re: coda]
    #5371951 - 03/06/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what size pans?
how many cakes in each pan?
how much vermiculite on bottom , top and mixed in?

if there is some kind of ratio for the mix of colonized substrate and vermiculite that would be helpful.


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