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Argument for MOM
    #5292162 - 02/12/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Today my mom confronted me about the decisions I have been making she wasnt too concerned about alcohol or pot- but she was concerned when it came to mushrooms she was realllly dissapointed she didnt punish me or bust me or anything but it was worse cuz now i feel really bad- i'm currently growing mushrooms. Anyways I think that what I am going to do is sit her down and talk about her concerns and why she should not be worried. Anyone have any good ideas for arguments on my side? or on hers? (so i know whats coming?) (btw i dont/wont do any drugs other than pot and mushrooms)


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292170 - 02/12/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No matter what you say you're not going to change her mind.

You're also risking a lot growing in her home. Someone had to say it.


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292172 - 02/12/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I just tried to explain to my mom that it was something I really believed in and it was more than just a drug. You may or may not feel the same way but I think all you can really do is speak your mind and she can either take it or leave it. Tell her about how the mushrooms just do really strange amazing things and how it's one of the most amazing spiritual experiences you've had in your entire life, she's either going to understand or she isn't, it's hard to change people's set opinion especially when people get older...


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292175 - 02/12/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I, within the last week or so, sat down with my mom and told her everything I was doing, had done, and planned to do. She knew about some things, and I knew she knew, but we never spoke of them. My advice to you: Be as honest as possible with her. Tell her why you do the things you do (spiritual reasons, fun, whatever). Make sure she understands it is something important to you.

I compared the spiritual significance of mushrooms to my mom by comparing it to her religion. I posed her this exact question: "If someone were to outlaw Christianity, would you still read your Bible and worship?"

Needless to say, she understood. Even moreso, I saw it in her eyes when it hit her and made sense. Apparently my mom's a hell of a lot more cool then I ever thought.

Also, explain to her that you're responsible with your drug use (which hopefully you are, for the most part), and if you're not slinging (which hopefully you're not) tell her that...if you are....I probably wouldn't tell her.

Hope this helps somewhat.


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292176 - 02/12/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Just sit her down and tell her you need X amount of time to talkafter that if she needs to know anything let her ask but untill that time tell her it is your time. Also privide scientific studies with sources.

She will be asking about the "Going crazy on mushrooms". And all the propoganda she as heard.

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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292178 - 02/12/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

while I appreciate that you're being honest with your mom about what you're doing,
I'd like to advise you not to grow in your moms place, it's not just your freedom
thats at risk, it's hers as well and it includes her assets... worried about
you doing mushrooms, not really a problem, they're safer than most other drugs
alcohol included, worried about what can happen to you and her from a legal stnd
point, she has plenty of reason to worry


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292181 - 02/12/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Disrespectul, irresponsible and it puts your parents in legal danger. But I don't like to scold people for this because I did it myself. I almost wish I had grown more to be honest, mushroom trips are good memories :smile: .


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5292184 - 02/12/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He never said he was growing in his mom's house in that post. Unless that was implied or I'm missing something.


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: demiu5]
    #5292191 - 02/12/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I specifically didnt say I was growing them in the house because I didn't want to get flamed but cats out of the bag- I am


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: demiu5]
    #5292201 - 02/12/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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demius said:
He never said he was growing in his mom's house in that post. Unless that was implied or I'm missing something.




doesnt hurt to point it out even if he's not, I also dont think growing would be
mentioned as well as the whole discussion regarding mom unless thats what he was
doing, sure it's an assumption but hey, the safety and security of others comes
before ones self if you're doing something illegal, people that dont see it the
same way may just be self centered shit but surely, I mean I would never risk
someone else getting arrested for my shit, I've had it happen to me before. fuck that


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: demiu5]
    #5292203 - 02/12/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with the others if you're growing in her home, but besides that:

Use the fact that she's okay with alcohol. Ask her, kindly, why it is acceptable, though so many studies have proven that it is dangerous and toxic? I don't know your mother (or do I? sorry..) but try to get her to realize the personal bias she's applying with little reason.

For parents who are good at researching and distinguishing a good source from a bad one, having them look up the harmful effects to prove you wrong can work very well. I've seen adults give in simply because they couldn't even find solid ground to work an arguement from the DEA's site itself. And if they, the people with the strongest will to convince this fact, can't provide, or even *fabricate* workable evidence... something is questionable.

As for "No matter what you say you're not going to change her mind."
It depends on the person. Some can come to realize the truth. I think this might be the case in this situation, as she's okay with pot... it isn't the demonizing effect, just misinformation and stigma. There are those who stand their ground for the rest of their lives, in ignorance. And there are those who still aren't okay with it, but live with it by choosing not to think about it.


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292237 - 02/12/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

one last thing from me, thank your mother for being as understanding as she is,
big hug and tell her how much she means to you (everyday damnit!), she's
obviously a good parent if she's willing to talk...


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292244 - 02/12/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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laylow508 said:
(btw i dont/wont do any drugs other than pot and mushrooms)




why not?


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #5292295 - 02/12/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

laylow508 said:
(btw i dont/wont do any drugs other than pot and mushrooms)




why not?




Not that I am AGAINST any other drugs its a personal decision morally I find it more acceptable to stick to the natural- and I am avoiding addiction but mostly just persoanl decision.


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5292298 - 02/12/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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elgr said:




As for "No matter what you say you're not going to change her mind."
It depends on the person. Some can come to realize the truth. I think this might be the case in this situation, as she's okay with pot... it isn't the demonizing effect, just misinformation and stigma. There are those who stand their ground for the rest of their lives, in ignorance. And there are those who still aren't okay with it, but live with it by choosing not to think about it.




I agree with you, I can't blame her for her opinion, that is just what she has been fed through the media etc. And she is open to ideas and knows better than to just believe what she hears so it should go well


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292414 - 02/12/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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laylow508 said:
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laylow508 said:
(btw i dont/wont do any drugs other than pot and mushrooms)




why not?




Not that I am AGAINST any other drugs its a personal decision morally I find it more acceptable to stick to the natural- and I am avoiding addiction but mostly just persoanl decision.




Cocaine and heroin are natural!


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5292506 - 02/12/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no they arent. cocaine is procesed with a petrolium product and opium is natural
where as heroin is extracted from opium


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Re: Argument for MOM [Re: laylow508]
    #5292763 - 02/12/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like you got it together. Good Luck. Let us know how it goes.

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