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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5295141 - 02/13/06 02:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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blaze2 said: Man im only here because I lost my car when I got it impounded, the real world kicked my ass, so I'm back on the fake one. I know this, sometimes I get hte feeling some people here make this place their whole life. Pretty silly really. I wonder how many pale white single guys frequent this board?
I think that ratio is pretty high for any message board on the net (beyond http://darkblackhusbands.org/forums) Heh. I'm two out of three though.
But are you not the one picking at the rules? If you didn't care how things were run, at least to some degree, you wouldn't even have bothered posting.
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blaze2
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elgr said: "You mods dont need to "protect" anybody. What are you protecting me from WORDS? "
Again, you're discussing the idea of moderation being wrong or right. You have a problem with authority, it's as simple as that. And again, my comments don't apply when it's simply words at stake. I could care less about flaming. Words are a tool. Suggesting that they're anything less is a bit foolish. An RC site link is an array of characters and possibly numbers and other symbols. The moderation has nothing to do with that, but what it represents.
Either you're focusing on more meaningless flaming, like I suggested before, or you don't see any responsibility in what is posted about for actual serious matters.
And if I feel like admitting anything, as I have in this thread, I'll tell you, as I have with people via PM. If it's someone whining about how he can't get acid or RC's, and would someone please PM him him to "chat", I really don't see why this person needs any information at all. He certainly doesn't deserve it at all. Would it be the end of the world? No, probably not. It's usually a new member with less than 10 posts anyway. But is it a right that everyone should have? No.
The last thing I want is for every pissy little person who has a problem with the rules to direct their frustration at me, instead of the rules I agree with that are actually enforced by the site. I didn't think so many pissy people would exist, but your thread makes a good example.
Are there specific rules that you don't like being enforced, or are you upset with the idea that there are rules in the first place? Maybe you could address them individually?
damn man you just dont understand do you. I could care less I realize I'm not taking any rules away, or changing how they are enforced. I just want to be able to say yup that guys a snitch after I get edited or whatever.
I figured something out reading this post, the problem with this(and any board I imagine) is that you people see EVERYTHING as right/wrong black/white, etc. And I know why. Because its all in writing, which is a great tool for recording facts and writing books, but having a conversation is hard. The voice pitch intonation body language we have to do without all of these. You cant even understand a pretty simple idea(I think so at least) I dont blame you I blame not writing it out right.
You assume right away that I think like you do. I odnt hink the mods are right or wrong, I think they are SEPERATE from the rest of the community. they do their thing to keep the order, I agree someone has to do it. However they should not be "protecting" anyone. Its nto like they get voted in or anything, or that we could kick them out of the mod club if people get pissy about getting recognized as a SNITCH. Who cares what a snitch thinks? THey certainly dont care what us "rulebreakers" think.
If you dont want to "chat" with someone then dont. You dont have to answer every PM. Take responsibility for yourself. Do you answer every phone call you recieve? when you say i dont want pissy people taking it up with me, that just shows me that you dont interact with real people near enough. And that like the rest of our society(real in this case) are scared of people. You would call the cops if you were being robbed instead of picking up the baseball bat and hitting the guy. SHEEP.
I have no qualms with most rules, but at the same time many are judgement calls, I have problems with people who judge anything yes, they tend to get their rocks off to it to tell you the truth.
If the snitch report was put in effect, im sure there would be more than enough people on here who just plain dont give a shit who would keep you mods busy checking button hits. I just think I have a right to know who fucks with my shit. And someone who snitches repeatedly shouldnt have respect, because he is playing his own power game. I have no respect for those who use power. Its not like I'm asking for something that would be hard to program either so dont give me that shit. You mods dont give people enough respect. You act like if we tell you whose snitching then no one will snitch our job will be soooo hard. booooohooo.
Thats not how it would happen man. people are dicks if they get their rocks off to pushing the button they will continue to do so, if they dont like those kinds of people that do push the button, then chances are they already didnt get along well and it will continue, and if it were all in the open there would be ALOT less whining to mods and the like when things are edited/deleted. The guy could let it out on the snitch, man to man, just like it should be. chances are the other guy would just ignore it. the end tell me how that would disrupt/interrupt the normal way of things here. Peace
blaze2
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5295577 - 02/13/06 04:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just don't see why you deserve some special right to know who "snitched" if you're breaking the rules in the first place.
It'd make sense to me to have anyone who clicked the button's name forwarded to the poster if the mod decides to let the post stand. That way you'd get a good idea on who is just going around clicking everything for the fuck of it, not even in the good will of the site.
But why should you have a right to know who caused your thread to get closed a couple minutes to a half hour earlier than it would've if a mod just happened across it in his/her regular checks? When it is a matter of sources being posted, like I've stated a number of times is the reason I click the button generally, 2 minutes to a half hour is what makes the difference. Personally, I don't think that should be discouraged, and that people who help should be anonymous.
If it's a matter of respect, like you seem to think. There's no respect in simply being forwarded a person's name. If you want to encourage people to step up, so be it. But I think it should be a choice. I don't see why you'd want a collection of names of people who aren't even going to bother responding to you, unless you're compiling a hit list.
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blaze2
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"But why should you have a right to know who caused your thread to get closed a couple minutes to a half hour earlier than it would've if a mod just happened across it in his/her regular checks? When it is a matter of sources being posted, like I've stated a number of times is the reason I click the button generally, 2 minutes to a half hour is what makes the difference. Personally, I don't think that should be discouraged, and that people who help should be anonymous"
who said anything about this being discouraged? there are hardly any of these instances in the community part of the forums, which is what im talking about, not the psychedelic parts. I would never look down on someone who snitches on misinformation. Which I have said numerous times but you keep ignoring. you give people no credit, they can tell the difference man. When its someone using it just so he can feel like he has power, then yea hes a snitch. Thats his personality, and nope cant say I have respect for osmeone who thinks that earns it.
As far as why I should have the right? why not? if it doesnt disturb the community(which it wouldnt, but you wont believe that) and if all it does is allow people to better judge who they are talking to, then why not? its not my right its everyones right. Secret police are never cool. Impersonal enforcement also not cool(a major problem with our judicial system in real life).
"If it's a matter of respect, like you seem to think. There's no respect in simply being forwarded a person's name. If you want to encourage people to step up, so be it. But I think it should be a choice. I don't see why you'd want a collection of names of people who aren't even going to bother responding to you, unless you're compiling a hit list. "
I dont want it forwarded for one I want it on the offending post just like when you edit a post the little subscript should say something like "reported by so and so on (date/time)" EVERYONE should know who snitched. IF you did it for a good reason then no one will care, if you did it because you like to fuck with people/have the power, then your likely to lose some respect in the community(who can argue this is wrong?)
I dont want a collection of names man, if someone was to say ask me not to stick little my harmless little jabs in(which are returned in a much more "rule-following", veiled, cowardly manner, I just tend to talk straight up, I know I know its not common, but its Texan. Find me a place where people have more "respect" for each other than good old texas.), and agree to not reciprocate them I would. Snitching only pisses me off more. I know alot of people think this way as well. If they do snitch then your right I probrobly wouldnt even talk to them, but I would KNOW not to talk to them. peace
blaze2
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5296784 - 02/13/06 08:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, if you're just speaking of the community forums I'll gracefully step down from the arguement.
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I think hitting the notify mod button should make a little badge appear next to your name for 24 hours.
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Redstorm
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I believe the community forums (especially PAL and the Philosophy forum) need anti-flaming rules. It's hard to hold a serious discussion if some jackass(es) will not act like an adult.
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5298108 - 02/14/06 05:23 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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My problem isn't checking the occasional notify moderator message that I get in my PM box every time someone hits the button where I go investigate. My problem is with the people who hit it 10-20 times a week, for stupid shit. Quit spamming my PM box.
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What is "stupid shit"?
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Re: tattling [Re: Redstorm]
#5299576 - 02/14/06 03:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im curious how the admin/mods feel about my idea.
P.S. happy B-day Redstorm
Edited by blaze2 (02/14/06 03:19 PM)
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5300206 - 02/14/06 06:01 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5300335 - 02/14/06 06:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've hit the button a few times (once by mistake) usually on spammers. I don't mind a bit if they know it was me, as I hate spammers with a passion, particularly on here.
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I reported you on account of your beagle.
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The skull in your avatar frightens and confuses me - I'm telling!
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Re: tattling [Re: Redstorm]
#5301683 - 02/15/06 12:37 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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stupid shit is when someone hits the notify mod button like 10 times in a day.. on a post or several posts that has no flaming or anything of that sort.
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5301721 - 02/15/06 12:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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blaze2 said: Man im only here because I lost my car when I got it impounded, the real world kicked my ass, so I'm back on the fake one. I know this, sometimes I get hte feeling some people here make this place their whole life. Pretty silly really. I wonder how many pale white single guys frequent this board?
lol. so now u tryin to kick the fake worlds ass
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Touche.
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Re: tattling [Re: blaze2]
#5303306 - 02/15/06 02:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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blaze2 said:
If you feel something important enough to report it ot a mod then why should anyone be ashamed to own up to it?
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NO ONE LIKES A SNITCH.
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Im curious how the admin/mods feel about my idea.
You've in effect answered your own question. As there are people who look upon others negatively for having "told" on someone else, this could be considered a deterrent for reporting potentially harmful or illegal posts. Therefore, by keeping the system anonymous, we won't inadvertently discourage someone from reporting a post they find objectionable for fear of being labeled negatively themselves. This is akin to the same reason the FBI and any other law agency will accept anonymous tips.. so that the person dropping the tip will not face any negative repercussions simply for aiding the enforcement agency in their implementation of policy/law.
It is because things are not always so clear as "right/wrong/black/white" that we don't need to introduce another public variable into the equation which could attract negative response to a user for an action that those dispensing the negativity may not fully understand. If the disciplined party believes any action taken against them to be in error, they will need to present their case directly to the person responsible for the action against them, not the person who left a tip.
> I just think I have a right to know who fucks with my shit.
Remember that it is not the person reporting your post that "fucks with your shit" -- they have taken no action against you directly, merely suggested a review of your statements. It is the moderator or admin who decides to take action that is fuckin' with your shit... and if they do edit or remove your post, you will be notified by either an edit line in your post or through our Ban-o-Matic warning system. Since the user who may have initially reported your post did not make any definitive call to discipline you, there is no reason for you to deal with them directly as they wouldn't have the power to retract the action anyway.
By labeling people who notify moderators about posts "snitches" - the end result would be nothing more than another outlet for negativity.
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Re: tattling [Re: geokills]
#5303319 - 02/15/06 02:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spoken with grace, as usual.
I couldn't agree more with your statement.
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Re: tattling [Re: geokills]
#5303401 - 02/15/06 02:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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who are these dozy mods anyway?
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