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Best bulk in my situation?
    #5289715 - 02/11/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have 16 Quart Jars of WBS (8 Transki, 8 Z, the EQ syringe was contam and I lost all my EQs) in germ right now and I should start seeing major improvements real soon. Here's a link to my grow long.  I'm prepping for the Fruiting stage and had a plan to have a large tub (maybe 37gal) with 2 trays (would have been 3  :sad:) sitting on perlite in the tub.  I was going to just straight case the WBS with 50/50+.  I don't have access to a place to pasturize hpoo right now (although I can get it really easily) so poo is out of the question.  But I was reading around and saw that people also have good success with spawning to coco coir and then casing.  If I go this route, then I would be able to have a double tub like Wronguy's tek and make two setups (one for each strain i still have).  I only have about 20 inches of clearance under my bed so I'd just have to make sure the tubs aren't too deep (although I don't see why they would need to be).  Now's about the time I need to get cracking on getting supplies for the next stage, anyone have ideas on how I should finish this?  It'd be nice to have a higher yield with bulk (especially since I'm out one strain).


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: Solidcell]
    #5289746 - 02/11/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



I've got a double tub of WBS/coir mix going right now. I guess you could make a really small mono tub and do the same thing to get it to fit under your bed.


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: FooMan]
    #5289945 - 02/11/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Does it really need to be so tall because the shrooms don't need that much room, and if its for C02 expulsion, how high does it really need to be? I can raise my bed a few more inches if neccesary, how tall is your doubletub set up Foo, and do you think it's not necessary for the perlite layer?


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: Solidcell]
    #5289985 - 02/11/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I PMed Wronguy a while back regarding preparation for a mono-tub, and he said the tub needs to be at least about 14-16 inches (first set of holes about 5' from bottom, second set about 8' above that). Since you've got 20 inches of space you should be straight.


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5289987 - 02/11/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, and if you're doing a mono/double tub, no perlite is needed.


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: Solidcell]
    #5290003 - 02/11/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

>>>>(especially since I'm out one strain)

This isn't directed twards your question, but I noticed you were bummed about loosing some jars. You should head to petsmart and pick up a bag of crushed corn cob. Set aside 2-3 jars to use as a learning experiment.

Crushed cob kernels are about the size of milo (the large round seed in WBS). Crushed cob is contam resistant, only sanitary (not sterile) prep is required. It's like G2G without the fuss. Crushed cob will turn 1 quart of WBS into 3 quarts of spawn in one week... at room temperature.

How I prepare: Let the crushed cob sit in a tub, covered with several inches of water, for 24 hours. I throw in about 1/2 cup hydrogen peroxide and mix it around. Your cob will be frothy, don't worry about it :grin: Once it's done sitting, boil the cob for about 20 minutes. It takes 4 pots worth of boiling for me to do a large bag (11 liters, which expands to around 18 liters). I take a second tub, wash it, and wipe the inside with alcohol. Drain each pot (careful, hot) and dump it into the clean tub. Keep the top on the tub at all times to keep the temp up. Once all the boiled cob is drained and dumped in the tub, I mist the top with a 1% peroxide solution, and secure the top for a 6-8 hour cool down.

My WBS jars are 2/3 full, I add that to 2.5 quarts of the prepared cob, total of just slightly over 3 quarts per jar. I use mycobags with a filter patch, but just about any clean, breathable container would work, the conditions are similar to colonization of a bulk substrate, though I should mention that I have ONLY tried this in mycobags, I'll eventually get around to using other containers when I run out.

So, you could turn those 16 jars into 12 gallons of spawn in about a week if you wanted to  :cool:

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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: Solidcell]
    #5290005 - 02/11/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Shrooms can get pretty tall, especially when you are using a shitload of WBS like you're doing in your case. I don't know the specifics of how FAE and CO2 expulsion work in a DT, but bigger ones seem to do better for some reason. The DT there is about the smallest size I've done, which is two 19qt rubbermaids and it's probably about 15-18" tall and definitely won't fit under my bed.

Oh, and what perlite? If you mean the white spots in the pic, that's myc growing off of the WBS. :grin:


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: FooMan]
    #5290196 - 02/11/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yea I had meshed the perlite into Wronguy's Tek in my mind (it had been a while since I had read it). So anyone know the size or name of a good set of tubs i can use to fit under my bed (at 20-24 inches clearance right now but it can go up another ~8inches. I forgot how much clearnace there was exactly since I last measured and my roommate isn't her at the moment (he has the ruler). But my estimates are in the right range.


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Re: Best bulk in my situation? [Re: Solidcell]
    #5290272 - 02/11/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sterlite or Rubbermaid. Just go to walmart with a tape measure. Or borrow a tape measure from the hardware section.


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