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Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy?
    #5288615 - 02/11/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well It's time to Buy a NEw Computer but im a retard when it comes to these things...so Ive asked around and a Buddy from work suggested for me to get this......

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Processor : AMD Athlon 64 3800+ w/ 512K Cache (Retail Box) 1 $339.95 $339.95 
CPU Heatsink / Fan : AMD Retail Heatsink and Fan 1 $0.00 $0.00 
Motherboards : Asus A8V-E SE w/ DualDDR400, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, SATA RAID, PCI-E x16 1 $99.95 $99.95 
Memory : Kingston 1GB PC3200 DDR ECC 2 $139.95 $279.90 
Case : Antec Performance TX1050B SOHO Tower w/ 500W SmartPower 2.0 1 $149.95 $149.95 
Power Supplies : Antec 500W SmartPower 2.0 Included with Case 1 $0.00 $0.00 
Hard Drives 1 : Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE16 7200rpm SATA II w/ 16MB Cache 1 $149.95 $149.95 
Optical Drive 1 : NEC - Mitsubishi ND-3550A 16x16 Dual Layer DVD+/-RW, Black (OEM - No Software) 1 $52.95 $52.95 
Video Cards : eVGA e-GeForce 7800 GT CO 256MB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, VIVO 1 $399.95 $399.95 
Monitors : Acer AL1916W 19in Widescreen LCD, 8ms, Black 1 $329.95 $329.95 
Sound Cards : Onboard 8-Channel 7.1 Audio 1 $0.00 $0.00 
Speakers and Headsets : Altec Lansing VS3151 5.1 Speaker Set 1 $99.95 $99.95 
Ethernet Cards : Onboard 100/1000 Gigabit Lan 1 $0.00 $0.00 
Keyboards : Microsoft Black Digital Media Keyboard & Optical Mouse Value Pack 2.0 (OEM) 1 $39.95 $39.95 
Mouse : Microsoft Optical Mouse, Black included with Keyboard Value Pack 1 $0.00 $0.00 
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition oem 1 $99.95 $99.95 
Assembly : Please Assemble Hardware + Load my O/S 1 $60.00 $60.00 
Warranty : Memory Express 1 Year Parts and Labour Warranty 1 $0.00 $0.00 

Sub-Total:  $2102.4
GST:  $147.17
Total Cost:  $2249.57 
Alberta Recyle Fee
(For residents of Alberta only):  $22.00 
Total(With Recyle Fee)
(For residents of Alberta only):  $2273.11 

This Form might not make sence but the only thing I wanted quantity of 2 was for the memory and instead of 1 gig i wanted 2 gigs.....

Im not Big into Video Games right now but Sooner or LAter im gonna get Hooked again so im Just Asking for anybody's advice on how well this Computer is and How well it will run when it comes to gamming.....

I Trust my Buddy but this is $2,300 were talking about so I wanna make sooper sure it's gonna work fine.....I dont wanna buy no package from no stupid FutureShop or nothing so Im going through memoryexpres and they will build me a custom one so please anybody who knows alot about computers and wants to help lemme know what you think.....

Their's just soo many things to choose from that it's too much to take in but if you feel like it then let's see what kinda system would be the best!!! mind you i dont wanna pay more then $2,500

http://www.memoryexpress.com/index.php?PageTag=&page=file&memx_menu=SystemQuote_1.php&SID=


Thanx Guys!!!

SouthPArk  :mushroom2:


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288639 - 02/11/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Memory : Kingston 1GB PC3200 DDR ECC 2 $139.95 $279.90

Why are you buying ECC memory? Should just be normal ddr


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: Ramlaen]
    #5288644 - 02/11/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

See This is why im asking you guys.....Im not sure wtf your talking about but the guy I work with is into gamming and everything and says this is what he'd get.....wats the difference between the two?

ddr is waht excatly?


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288648 - 02/11/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

check out anandtech.com. They have buyer's guides which show the system's they recommend, they also discuss all the hardware in good depth.


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288649 - 02/11/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Would 2 of these be better....

Memory : Corsair ValueSelect 1GB PC2-4200 Dual Channel DDR2 Kit (2 x 512MB) 2 $139.95 $279.90

It's the Same price.....


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: djfrog]
    #5288654 - 02/11/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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djfrog said:
check out anandtech.com. They have buyer's guides which show the system's they recommend, they also discuss all the hardware in good depth.




You know how many Hours this would Take for me to Read and Fully understand what goes with what and how it all works????

Their's soo many combo's on this computer that even after 24 hrs of straight reading I wouldnt understand....

but from your point of view does this seem like a fairly decent system that id be happy with?


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: Ramlaen]
    #5288663 - 02/11/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Ramlaen said:
Memory : Kingston 1GB PC3200 DDR ECC 2 $139.95 $279.90

Why are you buying ECC memory? Should just be normal ddr




????? In the line is says "PC3200 DDR ECC "

im sooo confused.... wtf... isnt this the same?


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288671 - 02/11/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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SouthPArk said:

You know how many Hours this would Take for me to Read and Fully understand what goes with what and how it all works????






Translation: "I want to own something, but I'm too lazy to figure out how it works. When I break it I will call customer support and tell them its all their fault."

the best way to avoid getting ripped off is to know what you're dealing with. You can't trust other people to tell you how to spend your money.


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5288683 - 02/11/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

SouthPArk said:

You know how many Hours this would Take for me to Read and Fully understand what goes with what and how it all works????






Translation: "I want to own something, but I'm too lazy to figure out how it works. When I break it I will call customer support and tell them its all their fault."

the best way to avoid getting ripped off is to know what you're dealing with. You can't trust other people to tell you how to spend your money.




I Fully Understand what your trying to say but I just dont have the time to go through ahd research how computer parts work with one another....

All Im asking is if this Seems like a Decent computer to buy and if you'd see any issues with certain componants interfearing with one another....

I Trust the Dude at work 100% but im just looking for an outside opionon so if you just wanna bash me then save it....I just want some advice on weather or not this system is worth the $$$....

Thnx if you can....


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288693 - 02/11/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not trying to bash you dude, I'm just giving you good advice.

I built a couple crappy systems before I learned how to do it right. But now I know why right is right, and that was totally worth it.

happy computing!

btw, all the brands look good: personally I don't like AMD, but thats a preference issue. Asus, NEC, Western Digital... these are all good brands.

as far as price... well everyone is going to tell you something different on that. I'm sure someone knows where to get all those parts cheaper. But people don't just give away sources like that, you can make a lot of money on ebay buy knowing things like that and keeping it from others.


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5288721 - 02/11/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm not trying to bash you dude, I'm just giving you good advice.

I built a couple crappy systems before I learned how to do it right. But now I know why right is right, and that was totally worth it.

happy computing!

btw, all the brands look good: personally I don't like AMD, but thats a preference issue. Asus, NEC, Western Digital... these are all good brands.

as far as price... well everyone is going to tell you something different on that. I'm sure someone knows where to get all those parts cheaper. But people don't just give away sources like that, you can make a lot of money on ebay buy knowing things like that and keeping it from others.




Thanx...thats all I was asking...! So pursay you got this for christmas or something.....the only thing you'd wanna change would be the processor.....otherwise it's all good and would run like a champ huh?


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #5288766 - 02/11/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the current generation of AMDs are supposed to be pretty good, but I have beef with them from the crappiness of their past products. Also, Intel and Microsoft are always going to be in bed together businesswise, which is something you should consider.

havent done video card research recently, so I couldn't tell you on that. I only stay current on video cards when I'm about to buy one. But the latest geforce card seems decent. Oh, yeah, why is your video card PCI? It should be AGP.

Also, onboard sound usually sucks, but unless you plan on music production, I wouldn't worry about it.

I would advise you to individually run a google search on each component and find user reviews. They can be very helpful. Oftentimes, reviewers will suggest a better product in the same price range.


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5288807 - 02/11/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
the current generation of AMDs are supposed to be pretty good, but I have beef with them from the crappiness of their past products. Also, Intel and Microsoft are always going to be in bed together businesswise, which is something you should consider.

havent done video card research recently, so I couldn't tell you on that. I only stay current on video cards when I'm about to buy one. But the latest geforce card seems decent. Oh, yeah, why is your video card PCI? It should be AGP.

Also, onboard sound usually sucks, but unless you plan on music production, I wouldn't worry about it.

I would advise you to individually run a google search on each component and find user reviews. They can be very helpful. Oftentimes, reviewers will suggest a better product in the same price range.




Thank You Very Much!!! Your Very helpful!


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5288996 - 02/11/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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havent done video card research recently, so I couldn't tell you on that. I only stay current on video cards when I'm about to buy one. But the latest geforce card seems decent. Oh, yeah, why is your video card PCI? It should be AGP.

Also, onboard sound usually sucks, but unless you plan on music production, I wouldn't worry about it.






PCI Express (16x) has replaced AGP 8x. AGP has become obsolete.

Onboard sound has really come a long way lately. It's actually quite good. All digital 5.1 and even 7.1 is available
onboard now from several manufacturers. Look into it. I'm not saying that any onboard sound will beat the capabilities
and features of Creative Labs' Audigy 2 Platinum, but, for the $249 difference in price, the onboard is just fine for
most people.


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Re: Question for All Computer People......Is this a Decent Computer to buy? [Re: TM]
    #5289003 - 02/11/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well, that shows how long its been since I upgraded my video card :lol:


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