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OfflineDyeGreen
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    #5286903 - 02/10/06 08:51 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

First, sorry if this is posted a lot, I tried and search and didn't have too much luck.

Me and my buddy are having one heck of a hard time finding shrooms in Michigan, so we decided to grow our own!

Our local head shop sells the Homestead Mushroom Kit for about $160 bucks, they never seem to tell us how much weight we'll get, but I've heard around 2 ounces WET. Not the best deal, I know.

My question is how easy are these things? We're basically looking for the best kit of all worlds, cheap, EASY (have to do it in a college apartment) and gives us a lot of quality shrooms haha!

Am I correct in thinking that Mushroom kits are the easiest way to grow? Has anyone had experiance with the homestead kit? Or *most importantly* Do you recommend any other kits? The guy in the shop said the grow needs to be kept in about 75-80 degree air, which is a problem living in an apartment... Any good tips?

Thanks SO much for any help!! You're talking to a complete mushroom freshman here haha.

-Dave


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5286927 - 02/10/06 08:57 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Stay away from 'kits'....you can do it your self cheaper why make someone else's rich cause you don't want to put in the time and you need to learn along the way.

If you are going to grow one or two times just to check it out then maybe.

Don't' worry about weight, you'll get no where near that and that is if your even successfully.

best bet is to start small, then grow into it  :thumbup:


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5287197 - 02/10/06 10:25 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

yeah 12 1/2pt jars for 8 bucks
little bag of verm. for think it was 2-3 bucks
bag of brf for think it was like 5 buck not sure tho.
spores 15 bucks about

i just used 2-2 1/2 bags of verm. and about 1 bag of BRf to make 36 1/2pt jars and 2 shot glasses.

even cheaper if u go with cracked corn or wbs.

thats what i think fuck that 160 for a kit. now remember i am still a noob so don't take my word. but have gotten 12G from 2 cakes so far they are fuiting again right now (4 flush)

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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: joker_66599]
    #5287311 - 02/10/06 11:07 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

How long does a kit take to grow vs. starting from scratch?
And more importantly, how easy would it be to hide growing them "the hard way" from a room mate who would prolly rather I didnt? (Note, seperate bedrooms, but I can't keep the heat in my apt above 70). It just sounded easier - as far as being in apartment goes - to use the kit, that's mainly why I was thinking along those lines.

Thanks for the info guys! I'm very interested in growing, just unsure about a few things I havent read in FAQ's.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5287329 - 02/10/06 11:18 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

I wouldn't even try in your situation . It's bad enough trying to hide it from someone , let alone someone who prolly wouldn't appreciate it . Its a felony . If you got caught , chances are your roommate could get in some trouble .

And you already know he might object .  :thumbdown:

If someone , besides myself , where to put me in that position , I might turn em in . I don't need any friends going behind my back , in my own home , it's 1/2 his , getting me in trouble .

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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: HippieChick]
    #5287347 - 02/10/06 11:25 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

you would turn him in......damn thats a little extreme don't you think?


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Dribblesmeer]
    #5287349 - 02/10/06 11:27 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

I don't know, if they did that then there not friends, I am not going to jail because of an idiot


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5287362 - 02/10/06 11:32 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

so you would turn them in. Why not just move? All im sayin is comments like that make you sound like a narc or somethin. you know what i mean?


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5287451 - 02/11/06 12:00 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Would you want to go to jail for something your buddy was doing in your house behind your back?

Anyway, to answer your question, I'd go with a Double Tub setup. It'll give you alot of shrooms with very little work and without any fancy gadgets.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: FooMan]
    #5287509 - 02/11/06 12:22 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

I don't know where u all are from but turnin someone in around uranus is a good way to get shot.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Dribblesmeer]
    #5287548 - 02/11/06 12:44 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

haha well i havent even asked him if it's OK yet, but he prefers i smoke pot (prolly once every week) in my room, and i can tell that gets on his nerves a little bit.

So lets assume it is OK, can yall help me with a few of the questions I listed? haha.

By the way, if he actually is against it - I wouldn't do it... It's really not worth jail time to me, and I dunno how many of yall are college students, but room mates arn't people to "f" with :smile:


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5287734 - 02/11/06 02:41 AM (15 years, 23 days ago)

well if you are still willing to risk your nutsack then ,rather than a kit , try to look up pf tek it will prolly be more productive then a kit. and prolly less then 160. there are a lot more productive methods but require more attention to sterile technique.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Mycophreek423]
    #5287808 - 02/11/06 03:31 AM (15 years, 23 days ago)

just look at the teks avaiable on the shroomery and then decide what is right for you and your conditions. Nobody can tell you what tek to use but your self, study up on teks (How else are you going to learn?), and then make your decision. (You do know how to study right?) but my recomendation is the pf tek. (Cake tek) It is easier for a first timer. Like you.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Keen_Eyed]
    #5288589 - 02/11/06 02:44 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

Well I've read through a lot of stuff, (like the guy who linked the double tub method) and my major problem is I have no idea what anyone is talking about!

I dont know what a Tek is, I don't know what substrate is, I don't know what a casing layer is, the list goes on and on and on... So now that you truely know what a beginner I am, can I anyone link a complete, ground zero, place to start with maybe that PF Tek? (whatever that is).

My other concern is that after reading a few things, it looks like at some point I need to use cow poo. Is there a way to mask the nasty smells?


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5288600 - 02/11/06 02:47 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

Start here, you have lots of reading to do.
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3171

Also, check out the top threads in this forum, like the faq's.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: Jaeger]
    #5288726 - 02/11/06 03:32 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

mushroom kits make arrogent growers. my friend stole my idea to start growing ( dont realy care about that), but because hes using a kit that does everything itself he now thinks everything im doing is wrong, thinks hes gunna get close to a pound of shrooms (no matter how much i say he isent) and keeps goin on about how he dosent care if i saved over a hundred bucks ( even movre if you count the recharge kits they over charge for too) and gained experience doing it myself.
what im tryin to say is starting from scratch is easyier than it sounds. read the teks, do your homework, work out a plan, and then make a decision. youl feel better about yourself when you grow them yourself.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: headbig]
    #5288822 - 02/11/06 04:02 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

Purple East??


Actually, the Homestead Kit is one of the better ones out there, although INCREDIBLY OVERPRICED.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: xxanxx]
    #5288823 - 02/11/06 04:03 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

^^And you might get 2 ounces wet out of it......not 2 zips dry though...


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: xxanxx]
    #5288895 - 02/11/06 04:29 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

ya, 2 oz wet it lize, 2 fairly large fruits, or 3 average sized ones, about the kit, i will hoever if ur a new jack and just want mush with little work, figure out how to make...acually if u want no work and have money to spend, get the homestead kit, if u wanna little work, figure out how to make ur own spawn, then call up homestead and tell them u want a compost fill, mix the 2 together in a bag with a hole large hole and large bandain covering it and wait, ur golden


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: caboomers]
    #5289024 - 02/11/06 05:20 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah purple east haha... you around GR? GVSU student myself


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5289053 - 02/11/06 05:38 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

DyeGreen said:
Well I've read through a lot of stuff, (like the guy who linked the double tub method) and my major problem is I have no idea what anyone is talking about!

I dont know what a Tek is, I don't know what substrate is, I don't know what a casing layer is, the list goes on and on and on... So now that you truely know what a beginner I am, can I anyone link a complete, ground zero, place to start with maybe that PF Tek? (whatever that is).

My other concern is that after reading a few things, it looks like at some point I need to use cow poo.  Is there a way to mask the nasty smells?




ah, yes. i remember those days.  read up hommie. may the shwartz be with you~! :flowstone: :mrt: :flowstone: :smoking:


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5291049 - 02/12/06 11:41 AM (15 years, 22 days ago)

Yep.


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: xxanxx]
    #5291141 - 02/12/06 12:46 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

I know its been said a million times, but i just have to agree that doing it yourself is a lot more satisfying, and will pay off in the end when you want to bulk up your grows. (just respect the roomie and his/her reaction to the whole thing)

oh & aged cow shit doesnt smell like shit, it smells like soil :smile: i have 30+ lbs in my house without a trace of "shit" odor...well except for my roommate who hasnt showered in 2 1/2 weeks (i kid you not, the kid is gross!)


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Re: Mushroom KITS [Re: SoulSuuckinJERK]
    #5291304 - 02/12/06 02:25 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

do searches for posts on stealth grows. You should be about to find set up that would work for you. The Double Tub is what you would want to do for the incubation period (getting your jars to colonize with mycelium)(mycelium= what shrooms grow from). The double tub is stealth no one would know what was going on except for tubs stacked up. After that pick one of the stealth setups from your search and then your on your way. After the jar is colonize you don't have to really worry about temps because room temperature will do it. Go to Wal-mart and buy a dozen wide mouth pint jars and get some verm, perlite, a timer for a power socket (can look at good will for that) and contact sponsor through the sponsor forum and see what deals are out there.

Tips: Follow the instructions to the T...meaning EXACT measurements and leveling off.

Patents...don't check your jars every day to see how they are coming along...

Wait until putting spores in the jars until the next day.

Use a Brazilian or Cambodian strain since they colonize fast and waiting is the worse thing for the first time.

Make a cheap glove box for inoculation because I know how messy my college apartment was...search glove box to see how to make.

Vermiculite can be found at good nursery's and some garden centers, Wal-Mart has perlite.

If you have any questions just PM me and I will try to help you out the best I can.

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